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05-07-2018, 2:15pm | #41 | ||||||
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How many people here will truly be personally affected by this change? If yes, how so?
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What do you guys thinks the true impact will be? Good or bad? I want to understand the perspective from you guys. |
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No, I couldn't give a rat's ass about this latest little incremental move. It's just par for the course, isn't it? There was the Boy Scouts, and the Girl Scouts. But that couldn't be left alone. No. They love nothing more than brainwashing them early. I can see the wheels turning in your head "Wait, maybe this is a good thing! Maybe these institutions needed to be changed for the better. Maybe gutting them and turning them into something new and better is what should be done!" Well, OK, you can think that if you want. But it's terribly naive and incorrect. Dangerously so. Just look what third wave feminism has done to first/second wave. |
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My grandson started in cub scouts went thru webelos and is now in boys scouts. I take him to all scout functions, his dad passed away when he was a little over a year old. I'm a former scout myself. I personally don't like it, the adults will be discussing this soon.
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FWIW, the Boy Scouts have allowed (and welcomed) female participants in Explorer posts for a long time now. I was an Explorer for a number of years way back when and the ladies were a welcome addition to the activities. Post 1369, I shit you not.
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Yeah, that wasn’t enough. It’s like Augusta National said you can play the par-3 course, but not the real golf course. They were never going to stop until fully converted. Note that the Girl Scouts remain unchanged. Because not a target.
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Will there be good that comes out of this, probably will. Will there be bad, of course. I for see lots of growing pains. I think this was positioned entirely wrong. I would think a merger would have gone over better, and been more accepting. But maybe that wasn't the point. Maybe they wanted controversy to try and get more membership to both programs. Enough resistance and people will dig their feet in the ground in opposition. Its human nature. I was in scouts and grew to hate it. I jump to a few different troops as I thought some were better than others. Some were considered more prestigious than other. I did learn some valuable lessons about ethics and leadership. What is it also exposed me to favoritism, corruption. Change is inevitable. You can resist, you can follow, or you can be part of the change. Each path has it's own challenges. What people need to understand is when you know better you do better. If you look at the root of many of today's issues, it boils down to ignorance. Education is key, and being open to learning will take you much further in life. I dont want to stay in one bubble for my whole life. I want to learn, I want to explore, I want to go as far as possible in life, good, bad, and ugly. |
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I think you'll see increases in membership in more diverse areas and population centers. I also think you'll see more rural areas take a hit. This will likely not pitch well in the South (as seen by this thread). People who are younger than me (under 35) are generally in favor of it, by looking at my social media feeds. Folks who are older (50+) generally don't like it. I think we're seeing some generational shifts. I did get asked by my local council to be a part of some information gathering meetings during Spring of 2017 as someone who is vested in the program. I didn't speak much, I actually went more to listen. Local scouters I work with want to see more people in scouting, not less. They are excited at the potential at helping more young people, not less. I get that scouting isn't for everyone, and I'm fortunate to work with some of the best (one young man I've been working with on some national initiatives over the last 3 years just got accepted as a Fulbright scholar). It's helped me be more successful, and my goal is to pay it forward. YMMV. |
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They are just taking 450,000 Boy Scouts out of the new Scouts BSA. That's all. But the new Scouts BSA, with it's lovely social justice agenda, and no doubt a merit badges in "Reporting Your Parents to the Authorities" for wrong-think, climate change apathy, lack of donations to the DNC and Planned Parenthood, and ownership of a MAGA hat or fully semi-automatic assault rifle - it's a glorious new day!
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