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Old 01-03-2023, 3:55pm   #61
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We slope our garages here as well. Maybe Floriduh is different.

Won't be the first time that I've built something perfectly functional that was also one-of-a-kind.
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I'm sure the typical installer could tell the difference between perfectly level and sloped 1/4"/ft. Or care for that matter.
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I promise you that you wonít find a mechanical, electrical, plumbing, or other contractor who purposefully put slope on an equipment pad.
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Yes because a road or driveway is similar to a 7 sq ft equipment pad.
Rain on a concrete pad certainly is.
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The installer levels the pad before placing the generator on it.
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It's Code for a sidewalk. Just shim the lower legs 1/2", and yer dun.
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Furthest from the master. Close to the existing propane line and the main panel. In the backyard so can't be seen from the road.
Okay, but a corner is a bad idea. Not clear what that corner even represents because the drawing seems to have changed from page 1.

Also, at that distance, there will be no difference in sound level, so your big plan to buy a quieter Walmart-quality generator wonít matter.

Iíd also suggest going ahead and pouring the pad, sizing the gas line and the electrical for a 20kw+ unit for when it inevitably is upgraded.
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Okay, but a corner is a bad idea. Not clear what that corner even represents because the drawing seems to have changed from page 1.

Also, at that distance, there will be no difference in sound level, so your big plan to buy a quieter Walmart-quality generator wonít matter.

Iíd also suggest going ahead and pouring the pad, sizing the gas line and the electrical for a 20kw+ unit for when it inevitably is upgraded.
I'd go with the precast pad supplied by the generator company.
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I'd go with the precast pad supplied by the generator company.
Iíll bet you wonít. On a new construction, getting those guys to pour a little extra will be much cheaper, and I know you appreciate $$.

For a retrofit, no doubt go with the precast.
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Okay, but a corner is a bad idea. Not clear what that corner even represents because the drawing seems to have changed from page 1.
WalGenerMart recommends 18" clear at the rear, and 3' min from the unit on the sides and front. For my Burnham boiler, they recommend the vent be no closer than 3' from an inside corner (measured from the centerline of the vent).
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No it is NOT But it can be off a bit in this application for the incompetent. The more level the better for the oil LEVEL
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WalGenerMart recommends 18" clear at the rear, and 3' min from the unit on the sides and front. For my Burnham boiler, they recommend the vent be no closer than 3' from an inside corner (measured from the centerline of the vent).
Ha. Those arenít all recommendations. They are called ďcodesĒ

Always bad Iím a corner for sound reasons. There is no window on that side above it right?
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No it is NOT But it can be off a bit in this application for the incompetent. The more level the better for the oil LEVEL
Especially given the light duty engine rating Generic uses on their engines.
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Ha. Those arenít all recommendations. They are called ďcodesĒ

Always bad Iím a corner for sound reasons. There is no window on that side above it right?
Codes are adopted by governments; recommendations/ requirements are made by manufacturers.

Above that is an open porch.
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Iíll bet you wonít. On a new construction, getting those guys to pour a little extra will be much cheaper, and I know you appreciate $$.

For a retrofit, no doubt go with the precast.
Nope.
AC unit = precast
Generator = precast

Itís the economic and wise move. It eliminates me having to properly size the pad.

And leveling the pad is their responsibility.
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That is spec for proper generator operation. Has nothing to do with leveling the pad. But you know this.
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That is spec for proper generator operation. Has nothing to do with leveling the pad. But you know this.
What we know from the highlighted text is that GenWalerac considers 1/2" off "level".


So for your precast pad, what is the material and weight?
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WalGenerMart recommends 18" clear at the rear, and 3' min from the unit on the sides and front. For my Burnham boiler, they recommend the vent be no closer than 3' from an inside corner (measured from the centerline of the vent).


We can buy the precast pads in different sizes at Lowes and Home Depot here. Nobody pours a slab for hvac units or generators.
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Codes are adopted by governments; recommendations/ requirements are made by manufacturers.

Above that is an open porch.

Building codes are laws that set minimum requirements for how structural systems, plumbing, heating. I am a avid over builder. Yak is a minimum builder. That is where we differ. Me better safe than sorry Yak that's close enough.
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What we know from the highlighted text is that GenWalerac considers 1/2" off "level".
Incorrect. That is the spec recommended for optimal operation of the equipment . It does not speak directly to the pad.

Btw- it notes a composite pad. Itís a vibration/sound isolation pad. Howís that going to work with your unleveled pad and those spacers you plan to use to level the generator?

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So for your precast pad, what is the material and weight?
Not sure on the weight. But concrete precast. Heavy. And have Hurricane code compliance.
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We can buy the precast pads in different sizes at Lowes and Home Depot here. Nobody pours a slab for hvac units or generators.
Because Floriduh.

Here at elevation 4900 our design ultimate wind speed is 150mph. That equates to a component wind load of 33psf. So I need a pad weight of at least 317# to prevent overturning.

Your hurricane wind velocities are probably higher, and I suspect a component wind load of as high as 47psf. So not pouring a pad puts the duh in Floriduh.
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