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Old 06-07-2023, 3:34pm   #41
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Children are just that.... children. They need to play and have fun, stifling creativity only creates a barrier between those who deny them freedom of expression. They see it as fun and humorous, adults look to such things with bias and concern.

As the great George Clinton once said - "Free your mind and your ass will follow. The kingdom of heaven is within"
I have to say, I find this a bit shocking.

Children are also susceptible to adult guidance and adult manipulation. With such malleable minds, they should be shielded from the ills of the world until they mature enough to understand that not everything is as innocent as they are. There is no valid reason for an impressionable mind to be exposed to a transgender person than there is to expose them to drugs.
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I understand the often posted position that Jesus was all accepting of people, especially sinners. (That’s all of us)

And I believe his purpose was to show sinners the errors of their ways and a way to redemption of sin through faith.

But that’s not what many of these “inclusive” churches are doing. They are condoning the sin. In this case the sin of homosexuality or pedophilia.
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Not at all - but Jesus taught one thing - Love

If people do not learn to love one another, unconditionally as He did, then we have learned nothing from His message.
And I never said anything about not loving others unconditionally. I said that the church we attend is open to all, however, our pastor still let's them know that the LGBTQ lifestyle is sinful. We're all sinners, we teach the Bible and we don't judge. Only God can do that. If the church in Katy is truly doing what the article claims, woe be unto them.

Life is simple:

1. Trust Jesus
2. Read the Bible
3. Do what it says
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As with many things in The Bible, you can interpret as you chose:

Deuteronomy 4:2
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2 You shall not add to the word which I command you, nor take from it, that you may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you.

1 Peter 1:25
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25 But the word of the Lord endures forever.”
Now this is the word which by the gospel was preached to you.

Malachi 3:6
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6 “For I am the Lord, I do not change

Hebrews 13:8
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8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever.

Proverbs 30:6
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6 Do not add to His words,
Lest He rebuke you, and you be found a liar.
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One thing that everyone seems to be missing about these PRIDE events is the people involved are looking for love, attention, and acceptance because it was something they likely never had at home because of who they were.

What is wrong with showing someone that they matter? You don't have to agree with their lifestyle to accept them for who they are.

However, perversion (sexuality) and the promotion of such should be kept out of the celebration of said events.
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One thing that everyone seems to be missing about these PRIDE events is the people involved are looking for love, attention, and acceptance because it was something they likely never had at home because of who they were.

What is wrong with showing someone that they matter? You don't have to agree with their lifestyle to accept them for who they are.

However, perversion (sexuality) and the promotion of such should be kept out of the celebration of said events.
No one has said they don't matter. What's been said is that their lifestyle IS sexual perversion. The government should play no role in this and government should most certainly NOT promote it.
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No one has said they don't matter.
Then why do they protest for equal rights?

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What's been said is that their lifestyle IS sexual perversion.
No, it is their lifestyle choices, some view it as perversion and some do not. What I consider perversion is the vaginal shaped hats and the giant phallic costumes and trinkets they feel the need to display. What part of their lifestyle choices make displaying such items necessary?

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The government should play no role in this and government should most certainly NOT promote it.
I agree. But they should not be discriminated against because of their lifestyles. That part of their lives should be protected.
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One thing that everyone seems to be missing about these PRIDE events is the people involved are looking for love, attention, and acceptance because it was something they likely never had at home because of who they were.

What is wrong with showing someone that they matter? You don't have to agree with their lifestyle to accept them for who they are.

However, perversion (sexuality) and the promotion of such should be kept out of the celebration of said events.
Hate to tell ya Rob, that will never happen. Part of the reason, the extremist letter people want the perversions to become the norm.
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One thing that everyone seems to be missing about these PRIDE events is the people involved are looking for love, attention, and acceptance because it was something they likely never had at home because of who they were.

What is wrong with showing someone that they matter? You don't have to agree with their lifestyle to accept them for who they are.

However, perversion (sexuality) and the promotion of such should be kept out of the celebration of said events.
Rob, these are not alphabet people seeking love or attention from the church. This is the church actively creating attention for these people. They are CELEBRATING a lifestyle that the Bible specifically addresses as bad.

There is literally NO difference between the church having a drug abuse day or a steal from your neighbor day, or get naked with a minor day. It is the same. Even by your own words, all sin is equal. Tell me what sin is celebrated in the Bible?

Ultimately we are going to just agree to disagree, but I strongly believe God's word supports my side of the discussion.

The opposite of discrimination is NOT promotion and celebration. It is equality.
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The opposite of discrimination is NOT promotion and celebration. It is equality.
No, I see the opposite as indifference
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No, I see the opposite as indifference
Indifference is equality. You see nothing special or different about the other group. All the same/same.
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One thing that everyone seems to be missing about these PRIDE events is the people involved are looking for love, attention, and acceptance because it was something they likely never had at home because of who they were.

What is wrong with showing someone that they matter? You don't have to agree with their lifestyle to accept them for who they are.

However, perversion (sexuality) and the promotion of such should be kept out of the celebration of said events.
You think its ok for this small percent of citizens to have a whole month dedicated to celebrating their lifestyle?

Do you think it is more about promotion and normalization than acceptance?
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Okay, chill out and have some cake!
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I understand the often posted position that Jesus was all accepting of people, especially sinners. (That’s all of us)

And I believe his purpose was to show sinners the errors of their ways and a way to redemption of sin through faith.

But that’s not what many of these “inclusive” churches are doing. They are condoning the sin. In this case the sin of homosexuality or pedophilia.
Where in the Bible does Jesus state homosexuality is a sin?
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Paul (not the Beatle), covered it in Corinthians somewhere
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Paul (not the Beatle), covered it in Corinthians somewhere
So, then not Jesus?

Did you know divorce is mentioned over 25 times but homosexuality just 7, most of them in the Old Testament, eg the Hebrew section. And some debate whether that 7 is actually homosexuality or anal penetration more broadly.
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Where in the Bible does Jesus state homosexuality is a sin?
Why does Jesus have to state it specifically?
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So, then not Jesus?

Did you know divorce is mentioned over 25 times but homosexuality just 7, most of them in the Old Testament, eg the Hebrew section. And some debate whether that 7 is actually homosexuality or anal penetration more broadly.
I can't recall, I used to be a Bible Thumper back in my younger days. The Bible is like the Constitution.

We see all the time everyone saying "it's against the Constitution." They have no idea if it is or not, just everything is against the Constitution.

I never really gave a shit. My 2nd wife of 30 years is Jewish, my son is Hispanic, my mother was a Jehovahs Witness. IDGAF. As long as they don't force it on me
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https://www.biblestudytools.com/leviticus/18-22.html

https://www.biblestudytools.com/leviticus/20-13.html

https://www.biblestudytools.com/roma...romans+1:26-27

https://www.biblestudytools.com/1-co...nthians+6:9-10
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