Obama - Page 2

Exotix · 11-05-2010, 9:31am

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Originally Posted by ChasC5

Stop it … come-on … if the POTUS didn’t have a plan, then what exactly is the GOP obstructing?

The Corporations will not pay any more in taxes, than they did more than eight years ago.

Can you say the same? Yes, you good and well your taxes didn’t go up.

So just Stop it with the silliness.

Goes to neo-Bush wacko McConnells' *Obama is to be a one-term President* ... all he has to do is continue to filibuster & obstruct even their own stuff and hope America goes into another great depression and *POOF* ... Palin will be elected in 2012 ...

This is the GOP Plan ... sad.

Defib1961 · 11-05-2010, 10:51am

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Originally Posted by Exotix

Goes to neo-Bush wacko McConnells' *Obama is to be a one-term President* ... all he has to do is continue to filibuster & obstruct even their own stuff and hope America goes into another great depression and *POOF* ... Palin will be elected in 2012 ...

This is the GOP Plan ... sad.

President Palin.......are there two more terrifying words in the English language? Wonder how long it would take before she quit the presidency also.

ChasC5 · 11-05-2010, 11:38am

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Originally Posted by Defib1961

President Palin.......are there two more terrifying words in the English language? Wonder how long it would take before she quit the presidency also.

She would have to take a pay-cut to become POTUS, and actually know how to Govern.

Trust me, neither is going to happen.

Exotix · 11-05-2010, 11:55am

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Originally Posted by ChasC5

She would have to take a pay-cut to become POTUS, and actually know how to Govern.

Trust me, neither is going to happen.

.. it'll be the same as 2008 ... Palin/McKook ...

Z06PDQ · 11-06-2010, 5:28pm

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Originally Posted by Y2Kvert4me

They are still on unemployment BECAUSE of this Administration I'm sorry to say.

Gee, companies do seem to be doing better these days, but why oh why aren't they hiring?

Reason: Because they are in limbo waiting to see how bad current Administration will f'k them in tax hikes or other cost increases.
It's coming, we all know it is...just how bad it will be remains a mystery, since our current leader has yet to demonstrate any real plan.

The "keep 'em guessing" game is what's currently keeping the unemployment rate static, because it's become obvious the POTUS has no plan, and seemingly doesn't wish to commit to one, one way or another, facing re-election repercussions. But unfortunately for him, waiting 2 years doesn't address one of the very popular topics that expire next month.

As soon as something definite is announced, good or bad, things WILL change. At least then people will know what they are dealing with, and can react accordingly.

BTW, I will never look to Government for furthering us, only as them taking from what we produce. When they wish to take more, you will magically find we produce less. It's so predictive it's ridiculous.

corporations that are sitting around with their thumbs in their asses are missing out on a great opportunity to make money,right now. that IS what they do,no?

*my* Fortune 500,100+yr old company is moving forward. they have recalled all furloughed employees & are posting handsome profits. cut the sh1t. you try to make it sound like they are all afraid of Obama. that's false & not factual.

propaganda: it's what's for dinner. [in your case]

Y2Kvert4me · 11-06-2010, 6:43pm

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Originally Posted by Z06PDQ

that's false & not factual.

propaganda: it's what's for dinner. [in your case]

It's very factual for the small company I work for and the many other small companies I deal with on a daily basis.

I didn't say a word about Corporate taxes either. ANY tax hikes right now are going to send the overall economy straight into the sh!tter again, just like they have historically done every time they are applied.
And since nothing definite has been enacted yet in regards to that topic, this not only has companies on alert, but individuals and consumers as well.

While a few of you may truly believe the recession is over, and things are magically all better, the fact is the smart people by and large do not agree with your short-sighted perception. Yes, companies may be busy producing right now, they may need more people, but those ominous dark clouds are still hovering above.

That's the natural effect of a big market collapse, and worse yet, the strong assumption of pending tax hikes. People are still very nervous, and also consider the other factor, that many are still just making up for huge losses sustained in 2009.

You want facts? Due to lack of business (much of it auto-industry related) the company that employs me had to let 10 people go last year. When you only employ a total of 40, that's a rather significant number. I've personally been covering the job of 3 people since that time, but so far, re-filling those positions hasn't been considered.

It's not about hogging the profits, we LOST $600k last year. In 40 years of business, it is the one and ONLY year our company ever posted an annual loss. $400k of that alone was in uncollectable receivables to companies that went bankrupt. It put us on the brink of it too.

So now that there are some REAL numbers and facts for you to swallow, if you are running the company, do you recoup that $600k first and bank it for the future, or do you go on a spending spree with the future still so volatile and uncertain?

Or, AS A COMPARISON....If you personally lost your entire bank account last year, to near bankruptcy status, but managed to recover, would you bank the extra money you make this year, or go on a wild spending spree and leave yourself vulnerable to future downturns?

Since you fail at understanding simple comparisons, let me repeat, I'm not saying that happened to you, I'm saying IF it did, what would you do? Be honest, it's a really simple question.

If you would replenish your safety net fund in a savings account first, I'll assume it's ok to then say you have your thumb up your ass too?

That's currently a real-world view of the typical small business situation here in the midwest. I hear it every day from other business owners. GM and the union gets saved by big.gov, but there are thousands of "little companies" like ours that ultimately paid the price.

Perception is everything. You read stuff and form an opinion, others experience it and form an opinion. Which you consider as propaganda is fully up to you.

Another FACT for you: The midwest states that have traditionally leaned left (IL,WI,OH,MI) spoke up loud and clear when voting this past Tuesday to stress their dissatisfaction with current elected officials. That is 100% in alignment with everything I stated above.

Not propaganda nor coincidence, it's reality.

Z06PDQ · 11-06-2010, 7:54pm

The railroads have reported record profits for the third quarter 2010 as follows:

* Canadian National reported its third quarter profit rose by 21 percent, and its operating ratio declined from almost 63 percent in the third quarter 2009 to 60.7 percent for the third quarter 2010. Operating ratio is the railroad's operating expenses expressed as a percentage of operating revenue, and is considered by economists as a basic measure of carrier profitability.

* CSX reported its third quarter profit climbed by 43 percent, and its operating ratio improved from 73.9 in the third quarter 2009 to 69.1 for the third quarter 2010.

* Kansas City Southern reported its third quarter profit doubled, and its operating ratio improved from 78.3 percent in the third quarter 2009 to 73.5 percent for the third quarter 2010.

* Norfolk Southern reported its third quarter profit increased by 47 percent, and its operating ratio improved from 72.8 percent in the third quarter 2009 to 69.6 percent for the third quarter 2010.

* Union Pacific reported its third quarter profit soared by 51 percent -- its most profitable quarter ever -- and its operating ratio improved from 73.8 percent in the third quarter 2009 to 68.2 percent for the third quarter 2010.

As BNSF is now privately held, it no longer reports quarterly earnings.

Meanwhile, the Railway Supply Institute reported that railroads are significantly increasing orders for new freight cars; while the Association of American Railroads reported that rail freight traffic for 2010 through early November is running 7.3 percent higher than for the same period in 2009.

Y2Kvert4me · 11-06-2010, 8:24pm

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Originally Posted by Z06PDQ

"Reality?" getcha some!

Good for you, and thanks for answering my simple question (oh damn, you didn't...guess it was too tough).

Our Co. doing good this year too. Might even profit 1/3 of what we lost last year.

Sounds terrific, just like Dem math always does. Bottom line - it still doesn't break even, does it?

Z06PDQ · 11-06-2010, 8:59pm

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Originally Posted by Y2Kvert4me

Good for you, and thanks for answering my simple question (oh damn, you didn't...guess it was too tough).

Our Co. doing good this year too. Might even profit 1/3 of what we lost last year.

Sounds terrific, just like Dem math always does. Bottom line - it still doesn't break even, does it?

what part of "most profitable quarter ever" escapes you?

stop with your "Obama is death to capitalism" bull****.

it's a lie.he rescued capitalism. he had to. our economy/nation depends on it. stop throwing around words like "socialism" like it means something. it doesn't.

Y2Kvert4me · 11-06-2010, 9:17pm

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Originally Posted by Z06PDQ

what part of "most profitable quarter ever" escapes you?

What part of "that doesn't equal out a balance sheet" escapes you?

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stop with your "Obama is death to capitalism" bull****. it's a lie.he rescued capitalism. he had to. our economy/nation depends on it.

Yes, he proved he can bankrupt the USA just as well as his state of IL did it

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stop throwing around words like "socialism" like it means something. it doesn't.

Never said socialism once in this thread, sorry.

Z06PDQ · 11-06-2010, 9:28pm

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Originally Posted by Y2Kvert4me

What part of "that doesn't equal out a balance sheet" escapes you?
what part of "you don't know an opportunity to make money" escapes you?
Yes, he proved he can bankrupt the USA just as well as his state of IL did it
please.

that's funny. he "bankrupted" us?

Never said socialism once in this thread, sorry.

and you never will,right?

if you [& your company] would rather play politics than make money, *FINE*...as for me & mine, we're moving forward. get on board, or get left behind.

Y2Kvert4me · 11-06-2010, 9:38pm

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Originally Posted by Z06PDQ

if you [& your company] would rather play politics than make money, *FINE*...as for me & mine, we're moving forward. get on board, or get left behind.

Oh, we're making money, it's how we manage it is where we differ.

You seemingly wish to require everyone earning a profit to be forced to spend, and/or hire. The realists of the world are saving.

I can't say what you're doing with your personal budget, but if you're tossing it all out there right now, I'll be happy to call you a fool too.

That's all it boils down to. On a personal level, on a corporate level, on a government level.

Z06PDQ · 11-07-2010, 11:36am

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Originally Posted by Y2Kvert4me

Oh, we're making money, it's how we manage it is where we differ.

You seemingly wish to require everyone earning a profit to be forced to spend, and/or hire. The realists of the world are saving.

I can't say what you're doing with your personal budget, but if you're tossing it all out there right now, I'll be happy to call you a fool too.

That's all it boils down to. On a personal level, on a corporate level, on a government level.

if "tossing it out there" is contributing to great gains in my portfolio,hell yeah. I'm tossin', baby.

there is plenty of $$ to be made. the Pubs put everything in the market in a 1/2 price sale & I bought like hell.

I think maybe you're just a victim of the Spin Machine. these are money making times. "fools" don't know that Obama is a helluva capitalist.just ask Warren Buffet AKA: the Most Successful Capitalist of Our Time.

"fools" hide behind ignorance & fear. "fools" would let their bad judgment keep them from moving their company forward.