War Breaking Out Across the World!

[SurfnSun]

Originally Posted by Chemtrails99

Move Israel, it's technology and industry to a part of it Texas. Plenty of space. Make them a version if a reservation . Then melt the freaking middle east, clear the lands and take the resources left.

They will not be moved from their land. I promise.

[Aerovette]

What will liberals do now? Support Iran?

That sounds absurd, so of course that is what will happen next.

[Wathen1955]

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[Olustee bus]

I have not heard anything about the rocket debris falling over Israel.

[Frankie the Fink]

Originally Posted by LATB

And meanwhile there are still foolish liberal assholes who will vote again for the Biden idiot. Several on this very forum. One fool here claims to be a conservative and voted for Biden in protest because mean tweets. What an ass.

I’m too old and I have worked too damn hard to suffer these never Trump fools. How ****ing stupid do you have to be to not see what is happening to our country and by extension the world.
They can all go **** a brick.

I've become even more cynical, we have been helping along Iran with lifting of sanctions and other global machinations and, suddenly, a few months before an election a weird war occurs with basically no casualties and IIRC no incumbent President has failed to be re-elected during war time. One big political scheme ? And now Biden, to appear Presidential, calls for a G7 summit. It bugs me no end that I am now this skeptical about the motivations behind nearly anything happening nowadays.

I remember Bill Clinton whining after his term as President that he did not have any big "defining crisis" to solidify his place in history - and a blue dress doesn't count.

[Chemtrails99]

Originally Posted by Frankie the Fink

I've become even more cynical, we have been helping along Iran with lifting of sanctions and other global machinations and, suddenly, a few months before an election a weird war occurs with basically no casualties and IIRC no incumbent President has failed to be re-elected during war time. One big political scheme ? And now Biden, to appear Presidential, calls for a G7 summit. It bugs me no end that I am now this skeptical about the motivations behind nearly anything happening nowadays.

I remember Bill Clinton whining after his term as President that he did not have any big "defining crisis" to solidify his place in history - and a blue dress doesn't count.

Exactly. War is nothing more than theatre by political elites to scare the public into supporting them. The last thing getting re-elected should be anybody that allowed a war to start when they were in office. Either they've already failed at the job, or it's exactly the set up you said....

[NoOne]

Originally Posted by Olustee bus

I have not heard anything about the rocket debris falling over Israel.

On the narrow Israel is pretty thin and most of their systems intercept way beyond the borders from a east/west direction.

A few missiles hit an air base out of all of it. For all that went on I think that'll make most think twice.

[owc6]

We are already in WW3.

Don't want to be here, and all of our children will be conscripted to feed the war machine.

Can we perhaps stop/delay it if we actually have a real election? IDK, but, that and prayer are our only hope.

[Swany00]

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[Bill]

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...s-irans-strike

Israel Says Readying 'Imminent' Attack On Iran As Airlines Cancel Flights To Region
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by Tyler Durden
Monday, Apr 15, 2024 - 12:29 PM
Summary:

Middle East braces for Israeli 'retaliation' attack on Iran after Israel War Cabinet meets

Israeli Air Force says it has completed 'preparation' and that an attack is 'imminent'

US officials tell WSJ they believe Israel will launch an anti-Iran operation today

IDF Chief of Staff Lt. Gen. Herzi Halevi: Iranian missile and drone attack on Israel “will be met with a response.”

Netanyahu orders military: draw up a list of targets

Several major airlines canceling flights to Tel Aviv and whole region.

State Dept spox: “commitment to Israel’s security is sacrosanct”.

G7 working on measures against Iran as China, Russia signal weekend attack won't hurt relations with Tehran

European allies urge Israel against military response

Tehran warns that it's ready to hit back harder.

IRGC says it is willing to hit back from Iran for any new Israeli escalation, including then it attacks in Syria.

Iran FM: we warned Washington that response in face of an Israeli attack will be "faster, stronger, and broader" (via AJ).

US reiterates that it "does not seek conflict with Iran."

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Update(1329ET): It appears things are moving fast, via Israel's Channel 12 broadcaster, following the earlier conclusion of Israel's War Cabinet meeting:

THE ISRAELI AIR FORCE HAS COMPLETED ITS PREPARATION FOR AN IMMINENT ATTACK AGAINST IRAN

The Times of Israel top headline has switched to: War cabinet decides to hit Iran back hard, hopes it won’t spark regional war

A host of airlines have canceled flights to the region, including the following:

Germany’s Lufthansa has suspended its regular flights to and from Tel Aviv, Erbil, and Amman, up to and including Monday. Flights to Beirut and Tehran will remain suspended until at least Thursday.

KLM cancelled all flights to and from Tel Aviv until Tuesday, a spokesperson for the Dutch arm of Air France says.

Britain’s easyJet on Sunday paused operations to and from Tel Aviv. The carrier said in an emailed statement to Reuters that it will temporarily pause operations to and from Tel Aviv until April 21.

Wizz Air says it had cancelled most of its flights to and from Tel Aviv, Saturday through Monday.

Finnair has suspended operations in Iranian airspace until further notice, which may cause longer flight times on flights from Doha. A spokesperson said the Finnish carrier will reroute over Egypt, resulting in delays of a “few minutes.”

IRGC threatens "new equation":

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Update(1225ET): Israel is looking to "send a message" against Iran, but short of causing outright war and mass casualties, a top level official has told The Washington Post. During Monday's Israel War Cabinet meeting, Prime Minister Netanyahu is reported to have requested defense leaders to draw up a list of targets.

According to Washington Post's reporting:

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has asked the Israel Defense Forces to provide target options, according to an official familiar with high-level discussions, who said Israel is looking at options that would “send a message” but not cause casualties.

Those options include a potential strike on a facility in Tehran or a cyberattack, according to the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the talks.

“Everybody agrees that Israel must respond,” the official said. “How to respond, when to respond, is the question.”

Israeli officials are now signaling to their US counterparts that they would like the White House's backing and coordination for retaliation, however, so far President Biden has urged restraint. This weekend the president clearly said the US will not back an Israeli military attack on Iran, on fears it would spark a bigger war.

Biden has issued what appears an ambiguous statement, and Israel's military says it is preparing:

BIDEN: US COMMITTED TO ISRAEL'S SECURITY AND FOR CEASE-FIRE

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Update(1145ET): Israel's war cabinet has issued a statement, reported in the country's Channel 12 broadcaster, according to breaking reports:

Israel wants to embark on action against Iran coordinated with US, channel 12 says — Reuters

Channel 12 has cited top Israeli ministers to say that the military's objective will be to "hurt Iran without causing all-out war," according to news wires.

But the Biden administration has already said it will not back a retaliatory attack on Iran, amid fears of the situation spiraling into all-out regional war.

As for Tehran, it is warning that in the face of any Israeli assault it will hit back harder. According to BBC Iran correspondent Kasra Naji:

Iran's IRGC commander: in new equation every time Israel attacks our interests, assets, personalities or citizens, we will hit back from our soil. Israel's Def Minister: we won't accept an equation in which Iran responds with a direct attack every time we strike targets in Syria.

Recall that before the Saturday night Iranian attack, Israel's leadership vowed that a major response would happen if the Islamic Republic directly attacks Israel from its soil. Indeed that's precisely what Iran did - it launched hundreds of drones and ballistic missiles directly from its territory.

Meanwhile in Iran:

Iran has lifted suspensions on domestic and international flights from its capital, Tehran, the state-run IRNA news agency reported, possibly signaling a return to stabilization for now.

It comes as Israel weighs its response to the strikes and world leaders call for restraint.

Global airlines faced ongoing disruptions to flights after Iran’s missile and drone attacks on Israel narrowed options for planes navigating between Europe and Asia.

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Update(1030ET): The Wall Street Journal issued a mid-morning report citing US officials who predict that Israel will quickly launch a military response on Iran, and that it's expected to come as early as today...

U.S. and Western officials anticipate that Israel will quickly respond to Iran’s attacks, as soon as Monday, officials said. But the officials said they hoped both countries could come away with a sense of victory, giving them an off ramp that would limit escalatory moves.

Israel's war cabinet convened again Monday (but there are contradictory reports), however it has as yet issued no clear decision (nothing communicated to the public at least) - and the question of whether the Netanyahu government has decided to pursue retribution on a military level remains open. It will likely be a 'surprise' attack - and the public will hear about it only when missiles are airborne.

The WSJ report is also full of caveats while presenting the alarming assessment of US officials:

Israel might also choose to defer action until a later point. One option is “‘we will respond, but not immediately.’ Iran will give Israel reason to respond and retaliate in future,” said Ehud Yaari, a fellow with the Washington Institute for Near East Policy. “I think it’s very clear at this point that Israel would have to do something about Iran at some point, but not now,” he added.

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[Aerovette]

End times are approaching.

[GTOguy]

Originally Posted by zeek

Israel is the only country with enough balls and nothing to lose by turning Iran terrorists country into glass!

You guys totally beat me to the punch. With the glass and the oil guys.

Hell yeah!

[dvarapala]

The last time Iran got uppity Trump threatened to bomb their ports and they got real quiet real quick. Israel should bomb the **** out of their ports for realz.

[GTOguy]

Originally Posted by Aerovette

End times are approaching.

With Big Bob and Yadkin to temporarily distract us, maybe it won't be too painful.

[LATB]

We need Trump back in the White House and all this unrest will stop.

[Swany00]

Originally Posted by LATB

We need Trump back in the White House and all this unrest will stop.

agreed, but it will get a lot worse if Trump gets in. They'd need to make examples out of the lawbreakers, with extreme prejudice.

[higgyburners]

Originally Posted by GTOguy

With Big Bob and Yadkin to temporarily distract us, maybe it won't be too painful.

Us?...are you retarded ?

[LATB]

Originally Posted by Swany00

agreed, but it will get a lot worse if Trump gets in. They'd need to make examples out of the lawbreakers, with extreme prejudice.

By "extreme prejudice" do you mean train station or gallows?

[Ronins2ndCuzzin]

Those that yearn for war, have never experienced it.

Iran is no friend and they're a dictatorship. However, many of the citizens there do not agree with the violent rhetoric and actions of their political leaders. Some loudly, most quietly. Nukes should never be considered as a first strike option IMO...especially when the retaliation will almost certainly be brought to US soil. Would you still advocate for nuking the middle east hitters if it meant that your neck of the woods could be nuked back?

There are other, more conventional ways to terminate threats from Iran. And hell, they don't even need to come from the US. Lord knows we're already spending enough there as it is. Iran, despite all their sabre ratting, missiles, drones, etc. still knows better than to directly attack/involve US forces. It would be awakening the sleeping dragon and the inevitable end of Iran, and they know this.

The thoughts of using nukes should sicken anyone with a rational mind.

[Aerovette]

Originally Posted by Ronins2ndCuzzin

Those that yearn for war, have never experienced it.

Iran is no friend and they're a dictatorship. However, many of the citizens there do not agree with the violent rhetoric and actions of their political leaders. Some loudly, most quietly. Nukes should never be considered as a first strike option IMO...especially when the retaliation will almost certainly be brought to US soil. Would you still advocate for nuking the middle east hitters if it meant that your neck of the woods could be nuked back?

There are other, more conventional ways to terminate threats from Iran. And hell, they don't even need to come from the US. Lord knows we're already spending enough there as it is. Iran, despite all their sabre ratting, missiles, drones, etc. still knows better than to directly attack/involve US forces. It would be awakening the sleeping dragon and the inevitable end of Iran, and they know this.

The thoughts of using nukes should sicken anyone with a rational mind.

This is why it should be done to finality. Remove any ability to counter-strike. Reduce them to vapor.