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Old 12-24-2022, 12:38pm   #141
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As I’ve posted, I would have done it differently. Either had tabs welded to the ends of the steel for mounting to the wood beam. Or bolted a steel angle to the wood beam to act as a ledger for the steel beams to rest on.

In a perfect world I always prefer to stack load bearing framing instead of hanging. But often there are circumstances that won’t allow that.

I’m certain that Yadkin did the calculations and being an engineer and numbers guy, one has to assume his approach is more than structurally sufficient.
I would have constructed a ledger to support the beams. But I'm just an old mechanic, not an engineer or pro carpenter.
I trust Yadkin's approach going on the math and his decades of experience.
In spite of that one, butt-hurt tall guy.
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I would have constructed a ledger to support the beams. But I'm just an old mechanic, not an engineer or pro carpenter.
I trust Yadkin's approach going on the math and his decades of experience.
In spite of that one, butt-hurt tall guy.

He is happy with it so that is all that really matters.

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I would have constructed a ledger to support the beams. But I'm just an old mechanic, not an engineer or pro carpenter.
I trust Yadkin's approach going on the math and his decades of experience.
In spite of that one, butt-hurt tall guy.
I have found,
Carpenters, tradesmen, mechanics, who take pride in their work and enjoy the work…
Generally over “engineer” everything. Usually from past experiences or exposure to engineering. And always error on the upside/upsize.

Chit builders and hack mechanics, are motivated only by time and money.

Engineers usually fall in the middle. Plenty enough to get the job done (always room for safety) but without overkill. And always superior to hacks.
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I would have constructed a ledger to support the beams. But I'm just an old mechanic, not an engineer or pro carpenter.
I trust Yadkin's approach going on the math and his decades of experience.
In spite of that one, butt-hurt tall guy.
A ledger on the bottom of a wood beam puts the load on the bottom fibers. Those fibers are under tension so attaching to them is like pulling down on a rope stretched between two posts- just a small vertical load puts a large amount of tension on the rope. Also, slicing through the fibers with a nail, a screw or even a pre-drilled hole weakens the beam. It's always better to fasten near the top where the fibers are in compression.
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What matters to me is that I have complexly destroyed your position.
You're a legend in your own mind. My position has not changed I would never put myself or my loved ones in that position unlike you.

Enjoy your blissful ignorance and Merry Christmas.
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You're a legend in your own mind. My position has not changed I would never put myself or my loved ones in that position unlike you.

Enjoy your blissful ignorance and Merry Christmas.
Rest assured Yaddie is a legend in MANY minds. And you, Sir, are far from it.
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I’m sure Yadkin is relieved that you’re good with something you’ll never use.

You need to work on your reading skills.
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Am I the only one who wishes we were all sitting back by a roaring fireplace day-drinking and eating Hors d'oeuvres while talking shit to each other across the room this Christmas Eve's Day?
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Am I the only one who wishes we were all sitting back by a roaring fireplace day-drinking and eating Hors d'oeuvres while talking shit to each other across the room this Christmas Eve's Day?
Fireplace is going here and I have a nice glass of Scotch next to me.
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Hell no I think that would be great fun.

Fire going here with a big bag of pistachios.

Watching deer and turkey.
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Am I the only one who wishes we were all sitting back by a roaring fireplace day-drinking and eating Hors d'oeuvres while talking shit to each other across the room this Christmas Eve's Day?
D’oeuvering hors sounds like fun.
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You're a legend in your own mind. My position has not changed I would never put myself or my loved ones in that position unlike you.

Enjoy your blissful ignorance and Merry Christmas.
Total irony here.
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Yes.
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Fireplace is going here and I have a nice glass of Scotch next to me.
I am enjoying this local product:
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Never heard of it. What’s it like?
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Gummed local weeds spit out then fermented.

Local made proof that you can sell anything to a idiot.
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