Trump is His Own Worst Enemy

[Taurus]

Originally Posted by bill_daniels

The GOP establishment, the donors and string pullers, are going to try and sell you on WEF Young Leader Nimrata 'Nikki' Haley, or some other pre-owned shit product and convince you that's the way. No. If that's the 'choice,' just friggen' vote for Brandon and put the country out of its misery quicker; just get it over with.

Bill & Jeff, out of curiosity, if Trump was not running, how would that change your opinion and who would you back? If Haley was the anointed choice would you follow suit?

[cptlo306]

Originally Posted by bill_daniels

The GOP establishment, the donors and string pullers, are going to try and sell you on WEF Young Leader Nimrata 'Nikki' Haley, or some other pre-owned shit product and convince you that's the way. No. If that's the 'choice,' just friggen' vote for Brandon and put the country out of its misery quicker; just get it over with.

Just curious...why did you put Nikki in quotes? Nikki is her actual middle name.

[Bill]

Originally Posted by Taurus

Bill & Jeff, out of curiosity, if Trump was not running, how would that change your opinion and who would you back? If Haley was the anointed choice would you follow suit?

If Trump bowed out, I'd vote for whoever he endorsed, and if no Trump endorsement, I'd probably vote for DeSantis.

[Aerovette]

Originally Posted by Taurus

Bill & Jeff, out of curiosity, if Trump was not running, how would that change your opinion and who would you back? If Haley was the anointed choice would you follow suit?

If Trump was not running, I would hope DeSantis would. I'd also do a deep dive learning about Ramaswamy. Haley lost me with her Disney invitation. She is obviously out of touch with what is actually happening in this country. She doesn't get it. It's a valid question and at this point I probably resemble the guy that pushes all his chips on 16 red at the roulette wheel where Trump is concerned.

[Bill]

Originally Posted by cptlo306

Just curious...why did you put Nikki in quotes? Nikki is her actual middle name.

Nimarata Nikki Haley (née Randhawa; born January 20, 1972

Have no fear, of course I meant it as an ethnic pejorative. She's Shrodinger's cat politician.....simultaneously trying to appeal to White South Carolina voters, but happy to trot out her "I'm not White, daughter of immigrants" shtick whenever it's advantageous to her.

I would like to tell you I have no prejudice against Indians (dot, not woo woo), period, but I can't really say that anymore, those ****s keep calling my phone every day trying to scam me from Calcutta or Delhi, or wherever the **** they are.


Example: It's not yet 4pm, and a check of the caller ID shows 17 Indian scam calls. Another 2 or 3 on my cell phone. **** them. I won't be shamed for hating Indians.


I absolutely detest Indians (and Pakis, some of the scammers are Paki) now, generally, although I have personally met some here who were likeable and seemed like the hard working immigrant folks we want here. Still, those scammers soured me on Indians in general. We shouldn't be mass importing them here.

[Aerovette]

Bill,

I've been meaning to speak to you about your vehicle's warranty.

[Learpilot]

Originally Posted by Taurus

Oh I get it, because I used to talk about Mitt at the other place a few years ago, that's funny.

Although, if you believe that by your logic you must have a big ole stack of Trump "head" shots in your night stand because you sure talk about him a heck of a lot more that I talk about Mitt.

Interesting. This place is devolving into CF P&R much quicker these days.

Ouch !!;

[cptlo306]

Originally Posted by bill_daniels

Have no fear, of course I meant it as an ethnic pejorative. She's Shrodinger's cat politician.....simultaneously trying to appeal to White South Carolina voters, but happy to trot out her "I'm not White, daughter of immigrants" shtick whenever it's advantageous to her.

I would like to tell you I have no prejudice against Indians (dot, not woo woo), period, but I can't really say that anymore, those ****s keep calling my phone every day trying to scam me from Calcutta or Delhi, or wherever the **** they are.


Example: It's not yet 4pm, and a check of the caller ID shows 17 Indian scam calls. Another 2 or 3 on my cell phone. **** them. I won't be shamed for hating Indians.


I absolutely detest Indians (and Pakis, some of the scammers are Paki) now, generally, although I have personally met some here who were likeable and seemed like the hard working immigrant folks we want here. Still, those scammers soured me on Indians in general. We shouldn't be mass importing them here.

At least you own it.

[Taurus]

Originally Posted by aerovette

If Trump was not running, I would hope DeSantis would. I'd also do a deep dive learning about Ramaswamy. Haley lost me with her Disney invitation. She is obviously out of touch with what is actually happening in this country. She doesn't get it. It's a valid question and at this point I probably resemble the guy that pushes all his chips on 16 red at the roulette wheel where Trump is concerned.

Originally Posted by bill_daniels

If Trump bowed out, I'd vote for whoever he endorsed, and if no Trump endorsement, I'd probably vote for DeSantis.

Thanks, I appreciate your input. Wonder who Trump would endorse?

[Bill]

Originally Posted by Learpilot

Ouch !!;

I think you and I at this point in time are pretty similar politically, but it's a valid point that VB has always been politer and more civilized than the pre-woke PR&C at the bad place. We've always had a more laid back, convivial, collegiate (although sophomoric) atmosphere here, and it's objectively better than the Beyond Thunderdome hate fest that was the PR&C of old.

I'd say we should aspire to continue the more pleasant atmosphere here, so we can attract new members. and stop running off older members. Pretty sure that's how we lost Kermie and Kingpin, among others. Just my $ .02's.

[VatorMan]

Originally Posted by bill_daniels

Have no fear, of course I meant it as an ethnic pejorative. She's Shrodinger's cat politician.....simultaneously trying to appeal to White South Carolina voters, but happy to trot out her "I'm not White, daughter of immigrants" shtick whenever it's advantageous to her.

I would like to tell you I have no prejudice against Indians (dot, not woo woo), period, but I can't really say that anymore, those ****s keep calling my phone every day trying to scam me from Calcutta or Delhi, or wherever the **** they are.


Example: It's not yet 4pm, and a check of the caller ID shows 17 Indian scam calls. Another 2 or 3 on my cell phone. **** them. I won't be shamed for hating Indians.


I absolutely detest Indians (and Pakis, some of the scammers are Paki) now, generally, although I have personally met some here who were likeable and seemed like the hard working immigrant folks we want here. Still, those scammers soured me on Indians in general. We shouldn't be mass importing them here.

The one person I wouldn’t piss on even if he was on fire was the whitest mofo ever. Bill, go out and see the world. Meet others in their countries. See what they think of Americans. You’d be amazed at what you’d hear.

Back to Trump. If he’s the name on the ticket, I’ll hold my nose and vote. The man gave Fauchi a platform, didn’t drain the swamp and #1-if he is elected NO ONE will work in his administration. So, truthfully, would love to see a hard core conservative woman/ethnic ticket. It would drive the racists out of the party and cause women/liberals to brain hemorrhage.

[Aerovette]

Originally Posted by Taurus

I know, everyone else's fault but Trump's. Must have been massive voter fraud. No way he lost on his own by pissing off everyone other than his base. Won't be any different in 2024, the party will lose another 4 years because they rode the Trump train.

A second firm hired by the Trump campaign to investigate fraud in the 2020 election said all of Trump’s fraud claims were false, the firm’s founder told The Washington Post

The Trump campaign hired Simpatico Software Systems and its founder, Ken Block, to investigate fraud claims all over the country after the 2020 election.

“No substantive voter fraud was uncovered in my investigations looking for it, nor was I able to confirm any of the outside claims of voter fraud that I was asked to look at,” he told the Post. “Every fraud claim I was asked to investigate was false.”

Block said he recently met with special counsel Jack Smith, the federal investigator into Trump’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election.

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...ere-all-false/

Pay close attention to that word. The rest is blah blah blah.

[Aerovette]

Originally Posted by Taurus

Thanks, I appreciate your input. Wonder who Trump would endorse?

Never happen. Trump will never endorse a presidential candidate.

[cptlo306]

Originally Posted by aerovette

Never happen. Trump will never endorse a presidential candidate.

I think he would. It would be whomever kissed his ass the most.

[Bill]

Originally Posted by aerovette

Never happen. Trump will never endorse a presidential candidate.

The only way that would happen is if Trump was stricken with some sort of health problem, a stroke, cancer, something like that that would physically prevent him from carrying out the duties of the president. Having said that, we've got a dementia ridden retard who isn't capable of carrying out the duties of president already, so that wouldn't be a deal breaker, but would be for Trump because I don't see Trump desiring to be a figure head while others behind the scenes actually make the decisions.

Having said that, I do like what I hear from the Indian dude you mentioned. He certainly hits all the right notes, and just to put @cptlo306 at ease, if Trump endorsed the Indian dude, I'd vote for him. My disdain for Nikki Haley has more to do with her political stances and opportunism post working for Trump. The fact that she's Indian just makes it easier for me to scapegoat her. I hold equal disdain for Eyepatch McCain, and other WEF "Young Global Leaders."

The Indian dude Jeff mentioned has come out and said he was never affiliated with the WEF, says they're trying to intimate that he's part of their cabal when he really isn't. I would like to know more about that, because I don't want a sleeper agent running the country. I'd need to be SURE he wasn't affiliated with them before voting for him, even with Trump's endorsement.

[Bill]

Originally Posted by cptlo306

I think he would. It would be whomever kissed his ass the most.

Sadly, I would agree with that. Say he strokes out and isn't physically capable. I don't see him endorsing DeSantis, even though DeSantis is the obvious choice. At least, I don't see him endorsing DeSantis without a bunch of groveling and pleading from DeSantis for that endorsement. And a Trump endorsement isn't as strong as it could be because he endorsed a bunch of RINO losers like Texas' own Big John Cornyn, simply because he figured they would win anyway and he wanted to earn some political capital from them. I would hope an endorsement for president would be only based on who he thought was best to lead the country, though.

[Bill]

Originally Posted by VatorMan

The one person I wouldn’t piss on even if he was on fire was the whitest mofo ever. Bill, go out and see the world. Meet others in their countries. See what they think of Americans. You’d be amazed at what you’d hear.

Back to Trump. If he’s the name on the ticket, I’ll hold my nose and vote. The man gave Fauchi a platform, didn’t drain the swamp and #1-if he is elected NO ONE will work in his administration. So, truthfully, would love to see a hard core conservative woman/ethnic ticket. It would drive the racists out of the party and cause women/liberals to brain hemorrhage.

He'd do better recruiting talent from his supporters over at https://patriots.win/. Plenty of pro-America folks there who would be happy to take a leave of absence from their lives to help America at one of her darkest hours.

Agree he should have booted Fauci, Birx, and the whole bunch, but I think he figured, "I delegated that shit to Pence," and didn't realize Pence wasn't the "you're fired" killer that Trump himself is. Keep in mind that what we know now, we didn't know then, or at least, we didn't know with as much certainty. Who would really have thought, before the Wu flu hysteria, that our medical establishment was actually malevolent and not to be trusted? I certainly didn't.

[99 pewtercoupe]

Originally Posted by aerovette

Never happen. Trump will never endorse a presidential candidate.

What if…and it’s a huge if…he is convicted of a felony in one of the several investigations and is thereby barred from holding office? Just playing devils advocate here

[cptlo306]

Originally Posted by 99 pewtercoupe

What if…and it’s a huge if…he is convicted of a felony in one of the several investigations and is thereby barred from holding office? Just playing devils advocate here

Being convicted wouldn't bar him from holding office. Technically, he could be POTUS while in jail.

[Aerovette]

Originally Posted by 99 pewtercoupe

What if…and it’s a huge if…he is convicted of a felony in one of the several investigations and is thereby barred from holding office? Just playing devils advocate here

(In Trump's voice) What the crooked legal system has done, to me, and to the country, is to remove the fairness. They have locked up the one person that could have gotten America back on track. I did a great job before. I was ready to continue, but the justice system is rigged. I still am the best man for the office of President. If I had to pick someone else, I don't know. There are a few I might look at closely, but really I am the one that has the experience and really wants what is best for America and the people of America. I couldn't say. I thought Nikki Haley was good, but there are couple things there, I know a lot of people like DeSantis...not sure why but they do. I'd have to look at a few...I don't know.