Dammit! Forgot to charge my car last night

[LATB]

Originally Posted by GrandSportC3

So, you are telling me that < $500 for the electricity per month for 3 to 4 chargers will affect pricing for a business with a $30000 electric bill?

Yes.

[zeek]

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[dvarapala]

Originally Posted by GrandSportC3

It just happens that gas cars are 10 times more likely to catch fire.

Tell that to @zeek

[slewfoot]

Originally Posted by GTOguy

That Hyundai EV that scraped the battery skid plate on a road hazard earlier this month in Canada....over $61,000 in damage to a vehicle that didn't cost that much. And, not available. A brand new, 2023 model, no less. Total loss due to perceived fire hazard. On my Tundra, it would have been remove four 12mm bolts, pound the skid plate flat with a hammer, and re-install. 30 minutes of time and ZERO cost.

My Sonata Hybrid battery failed last September after 8 years. It was barely still under warranty. I loved that car. They gave me a new loaner for a month while waiting on a new battery.

Being told there were none even in the country, I said fk it and bought a new Santa Fe. I know the service tech well and still none available.

Batteries cost the dealer $7k and upped to around $10k retail.

[dvarapala]

Originally Posted by Mick

I disagree. Today's EVs don't work well for ANY style road trip IMO. I just have no interest in hanging around truck stops for literally 2+ HOURS waiting for my car to charge.

They don't work well for you. For some people the added time for charging is an acceptable trade-off.

It takes 4 hours to fly from LA to Chicago in a commercial aircraft. Amtrak takes 3 days and charges thousands of dollars if you want a roomette in a sleeping car. Two people can fly First Class to Chicago for less than the Amtrak fare, and yet Amtrak's sleeper car trains are always full.

Clearly some folks don't mind taking a little extra time on their trips.

[jw38]

Originally Posted by dvarapala

Do you pay your employer for the "free" parking you get for your ICE vehicle? After all, it costs money to build and maintain a parking lot, not to mention the opportunity costs associated with not having all that land available for more productive uses.

But yes, you do pay for it - it's all part of your overall compensation package, along with other benefits like health insurance and paid vacations.

Stupid analogies.

I'm retired. I pay for my own garage. When I was working, I worked for several companies that had public parking that wasn't owned by the company. I never had employer-provided healthcare because I had Tricare after serving 20 years in the Air Force. My vacation time wasc earned, not given to me.

Does your compensation package include the taking of electricity to charge your car? I never had a compensation package that included gasoline for my vehicles.

[LATB]

Originally Posted by jw38

Stupid analogies.

I'm retired. I pay for my own garage. When I was working, I worked for several companies that had public parking that wasn't owned by the company. I never had employer-provided healthcare because I had Tricare after serving 20 years in the Air Force. My vacation time wasc earned, not given to me.

Does your compensation package include the taking of electricity to charge your car? I never had a compensation package that included gasoline for my vehicles.

Parking spaces in most commercial developments are paid for by the developer as part of the construction costs. The tenants of the buildings on the property are who ultimately pay the cost of the parking. And they do it gleefully, and it’s for their customers not their employees. They don’t GAF where their employees park

Matter of fact, at some places parking is a premium and employees are required to park offsite.
It’s a stretch to say that a parking space is part of an employees compensation.

[dvarapala]

Originally Posted by LATB

Parking spaces in most commercial developments are paid for by the developer as part of the construction costs. The tenants of the buildings on the property are who ultimately pay the cost of the parking. And they do it gleefully, and it’s for their customers not their employees. They don’t GAF where their employees park

So tell me, who pays the 6% Realtor's fee when a house is sold? Is it paid by the seller? Or does the seller pass that cost along to the buyer in the form of a higher selling price?

[Steve_R]

Originally Posted by dvarapala

So tell me, who pays the 6% Realtor's fee when a house is sold? Is it paid by the seller? Or does the seller pass that cost along to the buyer in the form of a higher selling price?

If you price a house 6% above market or appraised value to recover that fee you're not likely to get that price. But you already knew that.

[Vandelay Industries]

Originally Posted by dvarapala

So tell me, who pays the 6% Realtor's fee when a house is sold? Is it paid by the seller? Or does the seller pass that cost along to the buyer in the form of a higher selling price?

Who the hell is still paying 6% for residential?

[LATB]

Originally Posted by dvarapala

So tell me, who pays the 6% Realtor's fee when a house is sold? Is it paid by the seller? Or does the seller pass that cost along to the buyer in the form of a higher selling price?

Apples and Potatoes.

[LATB]

Originally Posted by Steve_R

If you price a house 6% above market or appraised value to recover that fee you're not likely to get that price. But you already knew that.

Exactly
The market is the market.
The commission is technically paid for by the seller but many argue that the buyer is paying the commission because they write the check.

[LATB]

Originally Posted by Vandelay Industries

Who the hell is still paying 6% for residential?

Most residential is 5% currently but every listing is unique.
I’ve listed as high as 10% for lots/land and most of the commercial properties are listed at 6%.

I also have done 2% and 3% deals. And several commercial deals with the commission as a dollar amount and not a percentage figure.

[GTOguy]

I have paid 2% to 6% for houses in the past 35 years. Depending on the market, as stated.

[Vandelay Industries]

Originally Posted by LATB

Exactly
The market is the market.
The commission is technically paid for by the seller but many argue that the buyer is paying the commission because they write the check.

Which is BS because if you take the agent out of the picture, and all other things remain equal, the seller's proceeds increase by the amount of commission that's not being paid. The buyer doesn't bring a smaller check to closing.

[Vandelay Industries]

Originally Posted by LATB

Most residential is 5% currently but every listing is unique.
I’ve listed as high as 10% for lots/land and most of the commercial properties are listed at 6%.

I also have done 2% and 3% deals. And several commercial deals with the commission as a dollar amount and not a percentage figure.

Exactly.

It varies by company and situation.

[Mick]

Originally Posted by dvarapala

They don't work well for you. For some people the added time for charging is an acceptable trade-off.

I specified IN MY OPINION! Seriously dude, you are this bad at reading? What is the upside of this "trade off"? Getting to spend hours per day at a truck stop? I have read some people give sexual favors in exchange for money at truck stops, but I have no interest in that.

It takes 4 hours to fly from LA to Chicago in a commercial aircraft. Amtrak takes 3 days and charges thousands of dollars if you want a roomette in a sleeping car. Two people can fly First Class to Chicago for less than the Amtrak fare, and yet Amtrak's sleeper car trains are always full.

Clearly some folks don't mind taking a little extra time on their trips.

You know, I never studied the exit temperature of cattle poop, but I know steaming bullshit when I read it.

[Onebadcad]

Originally Posted by dvarapala

They don't work well for you. For some people the added time for charging is an acceptable trade-off.

It takes 4 hours to fly from LA to Chicago in a commercial aircraft. Amtrak takes 3 days and charges thousands of dollars if you want a roomette in a sleeping car. Two people can fly First Class to Chicago for less than the Amtrak fare, and yet Amtrak's sleeper car trains are always full.

Clearly some folks don't mind taking a little extra time on their trips.

I have never met a person that takes more than a commuter trip on Amtrak.
Amtrak does offer much more luxurious amenities and longer routes (DC to Boston) than state-run trains, but beyond that I do not know of anyone who would use their trains for dayS journeys.

BTW, stay off the NJT trains, those things are disgusting.

https://www.heritage.org/transportat...ructure%20bill.

[Mick]

Originally Posted by Onebadcad

I have never met a person that takes more than a commuter trip on Amtrak.
Amtrak does offer much more luxurious amenities and longer routes (DC to Boston) than state-run trains, but beyond that I do not know of anyone who would use their trains for dayS journeys.

BTW, stay off the NJT trains, those things are disgusting.

https://www.heritage.org/transportat...ructure%20bill.

Last year, my BIL took his wife and son on a 3 or 4 day trip through Canada on a train. They said it was OK, but would never do it again. I have no interest in such.

In 2022, my daughter and I did a road trip from SLC Utah to Cleveland OH in 6 days in her Nissan Rogue. It was part of her moving across the country. A lot of the point of the trip was seeing things like Devil's Tower, Mount Rushmore, Indianapolis Motor Speedway, The Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame, etc. I still wouldn't have wanted to deal with an EV on that trip.

[dvarapala]

Originally Posted by Onebadcad

I have never met a person that takes more than a commuter trip on Amtrak.
Amtrak does offer much more luxurious amenities and longer routes (DC to Boston) than state-run trains, but beyond that I do not know of anyone who would use their trains for dayS journeys.

That may be true, but there are a ton of people you don't know who love riding cross-country trains. Probably nostalgic Boomers who used to have to ride them, but whoever these people are the accommodations on these trains are often booked solid.