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So according to Loco vette link, the average union worker makes $29.00 an hour, you bring in benefits, and retirement etc, brings it up to $75.00 an hour, so honestly do you think that an individual whose sole purpose for 8 hours a day is to attach an emblem with double sided tape should be paid $29.00 an hour. There is no way in hell that placing an emblem is worth that much, and before you go saying that other task are harder and deserve higher pay, some should. But they need to be based on what the task is worth, not what some union representative says it worth. Compensation should be based off what the skill at hand requires.
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The fact that you seem think the only way to succeed in this country is to be born wealthy is flat out f*cking ignorant. By your way of thinking, I should be collecting a welfare check, have 6 illegitimate kids, and working for minimum wage since I wasn't born into a wealthy family. I worked my ass off so I could put MYSELF through school. Yea, it was difficult. I worked nights and weekends, ate Ramen noodles, donated plasma for beer money, drove a piece of shit Cavalier, lived in a shithole apartment, picked up odd jobs when I could, took loans of which I paid back every dime. I didn't expect anybody to hand me anything that I didn't earn. What I DIDN'T do was go get a bunch of girls pregnant and get myself into a situation that I couldn't handle financially. Do you think that I am somehow a special case? I'm not. ANYBODY who works for it can put themselves through school. The problem is, thanks to those like you, people grow up with the assumption that they should have it given to them rather than working for it. Quote:
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You are absolutely correct. People should be paid a fair wage. They should be compensated related to the job they do. Someone who sits on a line and does work that a trained monkey could handle does NOT deserve the same compensation as the person doing more skilled labor, the design work, the corporate work, etc. Your idea of "fair" is laughable. It's pathetic that you think that people are incapable of succeeding in life without Robin Hoods like you looking out for them. |
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If you would take your head out of your ass for a few mins to let it get some fresh air you would understand my point of view.You assume that because I am 23 years old that I have no idea how the world works. I have been blessed to whitness companies on both sides of the spectrum. You have the lowly employee who is just trying to make a living, to the higher ups who actually make decisions in regards to how a company is ran. So dont speak to me as a child because my opinon differs from yours. As far as the food stamps thing goes a lot of people are on that shit because they are stupid and dont plan ahead for anything. Pop out babies because they didnt take the time to put on a condom, or because they thought the pull out method works. These people dont need help, they need to learn that actions have consquences.
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Abortion and Planed Parenthood are not the problem. Welfare, Food stamps and Section 8 housing is. Stop feeding the Animals and they will not reproduce. If Abortion reduces unwanted pregnancies why is the Single mother house rate growing ? LaMarotte: Trends: Single-Parent Households with Children As Abortion rates rose. http://www.mccl.org/us-abortion-stats.html Last edited by VITE1; 12-11-2012 at 9:42pm. |
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Allow me to expand on the "being replaced by a machine" concept. I have 10 acres. the future driveway to this 10 acres is 660 ft long, and will need to be fenced down both sides. I will also be needing a tractor for the property. It will require 166 fence posts, just to do the driveway. This doesn't include fencing the rest of the property (1/2 mile of perimeter). Let's say that Manuel Labour can dig four fence post holes an hour and I can pay him minimum wage to do that (~$8/hr). It's going to cost me $332 to have Manuel dig the holes for me, and my time supervising so that its in a straight line. Now some dipshit do-gooder comes in and Manuel joins a union, and they tell me that I now have to pay Manuel $16/hr and give him benefits. Now these post holes will cost me $664 to dig. After spending a long time in deep thought (about as long as it take me to google the phone number of the tractor dealer), i buy an Auger attachment for the tractor for $600, $25 worth of diesel for the tractor i already have, and a case of beer and do it myself. Now Manuel Labor is out of a job. |
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Do you see the problem? This is no different than those that want to increase the minimum wage. Why not make the minimum wage $ 50/hr? That way everyone who works could make a decent income. The only problem is, that $ 5 McMeal at McDonalds would now cost $ 50. Or are you proposing a two tier society.....those who have artificially higher wages due to union membership vs. the serf class who work for what the market will bear? Edit: The bigger picture about the RTW issue is this.....no one is taking away the rights of unions to organize, exist, or flex their muscles. What RTW does is prevent government endorsement of unions, kind of the same way government isn't supposed to favor one religion. Using government to force people to join and pay a union in order to get and keep a job isn't a level playing field. Using government to force people to pray to a certain God isn't a level playing field, either. |
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I cannot get behind a union that pays a guy $70.00/hour for assembling automobiles. I just can't do it. That would mean my job welding pipe on a reactor head, picking up radiation in the process, should be worth $200.00/hour.
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Buckster has seen so much of your that he, like most, knows your articles are merely propaganda based on utopian ideals, unicorn farts, and rainbows. It really is pathetic that so many have come to that conclusion about your M.O.
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1) None of those article mention the BMW plant in SC under discussion 2) None of them say anything remotely like "management offers deals to workers to keep them from voting for the union". Closest they get is some UAW tool complaining that management tells the employees "scare" stories about the unions. 3) All of those are about the UAW trying to come in and organize a plant, not the workers in the plant seeking them out to represent them. Representative quotes: Quote:
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Or not. My grandparents were legal immigrants from Scotland, Germany, Belgium, and England. My father LITERALLY bet the family farm on the railroad business in 1985, and the first train didn't move until 1987. In the meantime there was no source of regular income for the family. I spent 5 summers replacing crossties by hand in southern Mississippi and Alabama. Thus developing an appreciation for staying in school and improving my lot. Even if my family had not been able to pay for school, they did not take the MCATs or the United States Medical Licensing Exam for me, to name but two of several dozen potential tests of work tenacity that I had to pass. And just because I didn't have to pay for school, doesn't mean that no one else who was not so fortunate couldn't go. The vast majority of my medical school classmates were hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt when they graduated. But they had now acquired valuable skills that would allow them to pay it off. Quote:
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Unless you are TEACHING art history, it IS a useless degree, you MAY be using your other college courses in your employment, but there is simply NO use for a art history DEGREE in the real world..... |
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With that said, don't go get an art history degree and EXPECT that because of it you are somehow automatically entitled to a high paying job in the field of your choice or go bitching about how unfair it is that people with technical, science, and business degrees are getting hired over you. Last I checked, unless you are an art dealer, knowing the difference between Manet and Monet doesn't have much value in the job market. Last edited by RedLS1GTO; 12-12-2012 at 8:35am. |
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