ET Was Real

[Ronins2ndCuzzin]

Originally Posted by ZipZap

OK, I'll bite. You know Sean Kirkpatrick? He's an old work buddy of mine.

LOL. You're funny.

[ZipZap]

Originally Posted by Ronins2ndCuzzin

LOL. You're funny.

I worked with him at the NRO, and then again when he was helping stand up the JICSpOC. You?

[Bruze]

Originally Posted by Ronins2ndCuzzin

100% False. There are people that I don't know and have never met that enter my facility all the time...AFTER they have gone through the previously mentioned procedure. You actually think it's possible to personally know every person in the GOV and their clearance level? I got some ocean front property in Idaho to sell ya.

Would this interest you at all? Let me know your net worth, and I'll send you the asking price.

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[dvarapala]

Originally Posted by GTOguy

Bolt-ons= turn- off.

Wanna know how I know you're gay?

[The_Dude]

Originally Posted by Bruze

Bigfoot is absolutely real. Ask @Raazor, he will verify it.

But the saucer is actually fake. Somebody chopped that part in.

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I was at the Bigfoot Museum in Boring, Oregon a few months ago. Lots of evidence there. You can talk with a guy who has made casts of tracks. They even have explanations about why we've never found bones.

[Bruze]

Originally Posted by The_Dude

I eas at the Bigfoot Museum in Boring, Oregon a few months ago. Lots of evidence there. You can talk with a guy who has made casts of tracks. They even have explanations about why we've never found bones.

[The_Dude]

Originally Posted by Bruze

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[Bruze]

That one ^ looks a little fake to me, Dude.

This is a certified real one:

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[Steve_R]

Originally Posted by Ronins2ndCuzzin

100% False. There are people that I don't know and have never met that enter my facility all the time...AFTER they have gone through the previously mentioned procedure. You actually think it's possible to personally know every person in the GOV and their clearance level? I got some ocean front property in Idaho to sell ya.

That doesn’t address what I said. Try again.

[Bruze]

Originally Posted by Steve_R

That doesn’t address what I said. Try again.

Do you wanna buy my bridge?

[Ronins2ndCuzzin]

Originally Posted by ZipZap

I worked with him at the NRO, and then again when he was helping stand up the JICSpOC. You?

Hey man, nothing but respect for my space bretheren. Shit, my first assignment was Vandenberg. But these days, I contract. After 20+ years, I was tired of wearing the uniform...only to retire, and then do exactly what I did for the military as a contractor. Been doing it 10 years now. It's the only way to keep the clearance going, continuous evaluation and all. One man doesn't make the machine work...it takes a LARGE team. I'm still on that team. I currently support "air breathers" and will continue to do so until I'm ready to hang em up for good.

[Ronins2ndCuzzin]

Originally Posted by Steve_R

That doesn’t address what I said. Try again.

What do I need to address? What you said...

Originally Posted by Steve_R

And not one of those facilities will ask someone they don’t know for their SSN and then grant access. But you already know that.

is false. I know that, because I do this EVERY DAY. Nobody comes into a secure facility that is not already on an EAL, or voluntarily offers their SSN for a clearance check. PERIOD. I don't care if you're a damn Senator...it's my facility, and if I can't verify your security clearance, you are NOT coming in. The ONLY way to verify clearances anymore is by SSN. Under previous systems (JPAS) you could with last name and an ID number or DOB, but that's not true anymore. But what the hell would I know? It's only been my profession for 25 years.

[Steve_R]

Originally Posted by Ronins2ndCuzzin

is false. I know that, because I do this EVERY DAY. Nobody comes into a secure facility that is not already on an EAL, or voluntarily offers their SSN for a clearance check. PERIOD. I don't care if you're a damn Senator...it's my facility, and if I can't verify your security clearance, you are NOT coming in. The ONLY way to verify clearances anymore is by SSN. Under previous systems (JPAS) you could with last name and an ID number or DOB, but that's not true anymore. But what the hell would I know? It's only been my profession for 25 years.

So a random member of the public you don't know, with no sponsor or need to know, can just send you their SSN and clearance info and you'll grant access?

Yeah, I believe that, it works the same way with the clearance needed for nuke weapons.

[Ronins2ndCuzzin]

Originally Posted by Steve_R

So a random member of the public you don't know, with no sponsor or need to know, can just send you their SSN and clearance info and you'll grant access?

Yeah, I believe that, it works the same way with the clearance needed for nuke weapons.

Only if the visit is unsolicited or exigent. It's up to me and leadership to make the NTK determination. But submitting of the SSN is the first step in the process if/when no official VR is sent. Most people are their own sponsor (if they're USGOV affiliated) and if they require access, have the correct clearance, and NTK, then YES, I provide access to the facility, materials, or networks. It's really that simple...and it all begins with submitting of the SSN to the appropriate security office.

[Steve_R]

Originally Posted by Ronins2ndCuzzin

Only if the visit is unsolicited or exigent. It's up to me and leadership to make the NTK determination. But submitting of the SSN is the first step in the process if/when no official VR is sent. Most people are their own sponsor (if they're USGOV affiliated) and if they require access, have the correct clearance, and NTK, then YES, I provide access to the facility, materials, or networks. It's really that simple...and it all begins with submitting of the SSN to the appropriate security office.

So, just for the record, as I have no sponsor or NTK, if I send you my SSN via PM on an internet forum, along with my clearance info, you'll grant me access?

[Bruze]

Originally Posted by Steve_R

So, just for the record, as I have no sponsor or NTK, if I send you my SSN via PM on an internet forum, along with my clearance info, you'll grant me access?

That's all it takes to see the crashed saucer and embalmed aliens?

[Steve_R]

Originally Posted by Bruze

That's all it takes to see the crashed saucer and embalmed aliens?

Apparently. Although I must assume after you see it you're executed since not one photo or shred of actual evidence has leaked in over 75 years. Our government can't keep anything else secret that long, including nuclear weapons designs, but they can keep an alien spaceship crash secret.

[Bruze]

Originally Posted by Steve_R

Apparently. Although I must assume after you see it you're executed since not one photo or shred of actual evidence has leaked in over 75 years. Our government can't keep anything else secret that long, including nuclear weapons designs, but they can keep an alien spaceship crash secret.

Amazing, isn't it?

[Ronins2ndCuzzin]

Originally Posted by Steve_R

So, just for the record, as I have no sponsor or NTK, if I send you my SSN via PM on an internet forum, along with my clearance info, you'll grant me access?

The sending of the SSN is so I can verify your clearance info. But in all likelihood, no. You would not qualify for access.

[Steve_R]

Originally Posted by Ronins2ndCuzzin

The sending of the SSN is so I can verify your clearance info. But in all likelihood, no. You would not qualify for access.

Finally an honest answer.