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Old 07-13-2023, 1:46pm   #41
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newsum will have to campaign on strictly social issues and those issues that tug at the heartstrings of all pussyhats, as he has ZERO accomplishments, he is bankrupting the state, the big cities are havens for drug addicts and criminals, he is a HUGELY pos, whose only goal is to enrich his bank account--peeloser taught him well.
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It's been debunked! Links a CNN article.
How about the others? You just can't be objective. What part of there were observers inside the entire time is hard to understand? This was not even disputed y the right.

You are the one duped by a photo from the "stop the vote" crowd. You know, the ones that wanted to stop counting votes while Trump was still ahead. Nothing suspicious about that either I suppose.
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newsum will have to campaign on strictly social issues and those issues that tug at the heartstrings of all pussyhats, as he has ZERO accomplishments, he is bankrupting the state, the big cities are havens for drug addicts and criminals, he is a HUGELY pos, whose only goal is to enrich his bank account--peeloser taught him well.
You are correct and social issues get dems out to vote. He does it very well.
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How about the others? You just can't be objective. What part of there were observers inside the entire time is hard to understand? This was not even disputed y the right.

You are the one duped by a photo from the "stop the vote" crowd. You know, the ones that wanted to stop counting votes while Trump was still ahead. Nothing suspicious about that either I suppose.
I didn't "see the photo," I watched that damn thing live as people were taking video of it, as well as them pulling boxes of ballots out from under tables while the windows were covered (and the facility was closed to inspectors, well republican inspectors anyway) and counting votes for 3-4 hours while nothing was allowed to be happening.

The fact that your side chooses to ignore the FACT that events happened all over, and that they in fact WERE ILLEGAL, makes you the most dangerous kind of fool...an ignorant and biased one. Sounds like you should start working for the FBI. You'd fit right in. Shit...with your viewpoints, they may make you Director.
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I didn't "see the photo," I watched that damn thing live as people were taking video of it, as well as them pulling boxes of ballots out from under tables while the windows were covered (and the facility was closed to inspectors, well republican inspectors anyway) and counting votes for 3-4 hours while nothing was allowed to be happening.

The fact that your side chooses to ignore the FACT that events happened all over, and that they in fact WERE ILLEGAL, makes you the most dangerous kind of fool...an ignorant and biased one. Sounds like you should start working for the FBI. You'd fit right in. Shit...with your viewpoints, they may make you Director.
and yet a judge who looked at all the "evidence" including your videos and claims that the republican observers were denied access and loads of ballots were brought in and blah, blah, blah said they were nonsense without basis and threw Trump's folks out of court. I know, he was part of this imaginary plot against Trump as well.

Trump lost.
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The underlying issue discussed here is, we are at a point in the country where we don't agree on the basic facts. Half the country firmly believes we saw massive cheating in the swing states. The other half is just as adamant that no cheating took place. The lines are drawn, and that's that. No amount of persuasion, or discussion, is going to change anyone's mind now.

Same for the Wu flu 'crisis.' A significant portion of the country thinks we were lied to, that the Wu flu itself was produced in a Chinese bioweapons lab, that the Wu flu itself wasn't as much of a doomsday bug as governments around the world made it out to be, that the 'vaccines' were ineffective and dangerous, that other treatments, including protocols that included HCQ, Ivermectin, zinc, vitamin D, quercetin, etc., were intentionally suppressed to force people into being injected, etc. The rest of the country knows that's all just a false conspiracy theory. Again, the lines are drawn, whatever camp you are in on all that....you're in. No minds are going to be changed. That's it.

We're irrevocably polarized, balkanized. I don't really see any way out of that. There's not going to be any kind of "bringing America together" when we can't even come together to agree on basic facts.

How are you going to bring me together to say that the masks, the vaccines, worked, that HCQ and ivermectin based treatments didn't work, etc.? I will never say that, never believe that. Meanwhile, others, including a good friend of mine who recently underwent major cancer treatment, believes just the opposite. He will never come together to say that Americans were duped. Ever. We can't agree on basic facts.

Can't agree on what a man or a woman is. No coming back from that.

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Half the country thinks this guy is a sick, mentally ill joke, as illustrated, and the other half legitimately thinks he, er, SHE is stunning and brave and an inspiration to boys around the world.

Not really any compromise on that, no one that will bring us together on that.
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You are correct and social issues get dems out to vote. He does it very well.
I did not decide that all socialists are dead to me, BUT I decided long ago that I would never discuss social issues.
Rhose who cling to them are mostly sheeple, and cannot speak intelligently for 10 seconds on budgets, deficits, revenues and spending.

There is a very strong correlation for those who solely vote based on social issues, they are also mostly freeshitgrabbers, and in their lifetime they will be net negatives.
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I did not decide that all socialists are dead to me, BUT I decided long ago that I would never discuss social issues.
Rhose who cling to them are mostly sheeple, and cannot speak intelligently for 10 seconds on budgets, deficits, revenues and spending.

There is a very strong correlation for those who solely vote based on social issues, they are also mostly freeshitgrabbers, and in their lifetime they will be net negatives.
I agree completely. When dems are successful it's usually is because they have wrapped their message in social issues that appeal to the masses. No one does it better right now than Newsome which is why he's so dangerous in 2024.
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My question again, Is he running?
Not yet, still feeling things out but he will be in my opinion.
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newsum will run, if for no other reason than raising a ton of money, bailing out early due to the polls suck, and then diverting the balance of campaign funds, probably $10+M, to his wife through various marketing shell corps.

Most presidential candidates stop spending money at least two weeks before they pull out, as they want the monies to keep pouring in.

Above is a proven template,,, hell, I may run for POTUS.
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and yet biased, bought, and paid for judges, district attorneys, state prosecutors, and election officials chose to ignore all the "evidence" including your videos and claims that the republican observers were denied access and loads of ballots were brought in and blah, blah, blah said they were nonsense without basis and threw Trump's folks out of court. I know, he was part of this imaginary plot against Trump as well.

Trump lost.
Fixed.
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Prove that please.

Oh yea, you can’t prove your conspiracy theories can you?
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Prove that please.

Oh yea, you can’t prove your conspiracy theories can you?
This has always been my MAIN ARGUMENT. You have seen the proof. I have seen the proof. Everyone has seen the proof. You just CHOOSE TO IGNORE IT.
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This has always been my MAIN ARGUMENT. You have seen the proof. I have seen the proof. Everyone has seen the proof. You just CHOOSE TO IGNORE IT.
I have seen NO proof and neither have the judges.

I choose to ignore conspiracy theories and that's all you have. For you to be right I would have to believe that all the judges that heard Trump's cases, all the election officials and all the election workers were in a fix to get Trump. Not only that but they all kept it under wraps and nothing got out. But only in states Trump lost. All this done by the left whom you all think are the dumbest people imaginable. This story sounds less plausible every time you tell it and it's almost getting amusing.

Stomping your feet and pounding your balled up fists on your desk does not make it true. What is true is Trump will lose the White House again if the party continues to ride the Trump Train.

For you............ it's time.

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This has always been my MAIN ARGUMENT. You have seen the proof. I have seen the proof. Everyone has seen the proof. You just CHOOSE TO IGNORE IT.

The feds have been caught red handed doing chit tons on nefarious corrupt actions.
But they'd never rig an election.


The feds claiming the Byedumb laptop was "Russian disinformation" and colluding with social media, the msm ect to withhold information from the voting public is voter fraud in of itself.

The progcommie clowns can deny all they want. The genie isn't going back in the bottle...ever.
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I have seen NO proof and neither have the judges.

I choose to ignore conspiracy theories and that's all you have. For you to be right I would have to believe that all the judges that heard Trump's cases, all the election officials and all the election workers were in a fix to get Trump. Not only that but they all kept it under wraps and nothing got out. But only in states Trump lost. All this done by the left whom you all think are the dumbest people imaginable. This story sounds less plausible every time you tell it and it's almost getting amusing.

Stomping your feet and pounding your balled up fists on your desk does not make it true. What is true is Trump will lose the White House again if the party continues to ride the Trump Train.

For you............ it's time.
Whatever dude. "Not seeing any proof" does not mean the proof isn't everywhere. You are CHOOSING to be biased. If the suspicious circumstances favored Trump, your bias would be completely the other way. But this is why I typically refuse to even engage with you Hekking. Your bias shuts down any chance of your understanding complicated things, and you painfully display a lack of critical thinking that makes me wonder how you're even still alive. You, like always, continue to be a waste of my time.
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Whatever dude. "Not seeing any proof" does not mean the proof isn't everywhere. You are CHOOSING to be biased. If the suspicious circumstances favored Trump, your bias would be completely the other way. But this is why I typically refuse to even engage with you Hekking. Your bias shuts down any chance of your understanding complicated things, and you painfully display a lack of critical thinking that makes me wonder how you're even still alive. You, like always, continue to be a waste of my time.
Feel free to not interact with me, I get no enjoyment from it and would prefer not to listen to your unproven conspiracy theories. Don't tell me how I would think if the circumstances were helping Trump, you have no idea. But they are as YOU called them, SUSPICIOUS CIRCUMSTANCES. That's what I'm supposed to go on to agree with over throwing an election, SUSPICIOUS CIRCUMSTANCES?

This is NOT about bias, it's fact based and not SUSPICOUS CIRCUMSTANCE based. Critical thinking allows us to reason beyond what our emotions tell us, unlike you who's still crying over a lost election going on three years later. How long you going to keep it up man? Your TDS is painfully obvious and difficult to watch.

Again, pass my posts by like you should have at CF instead of bitching about how I got you banned for how you responded to my posts. Do you always blame others like me, judges, election officials, election workers, MSM and on and on when things don't go your way?

I don't come here to belittle anyone for their beliefs on the 2020 election, Donald Trump or anything else, everyone has a right to think what they want based on their research and assimilation of the facts. In my discussion here and over there about 2020 you don't see me telling folks across the aisle that I can't understand how they're still alive. I won't back down from the very few of you that seem to think you're superior beings, you are not. I can and do discuss civilly with many here who don't get put on their ear every time we disagree.

Again, feel free to follow your advice and don't interact. There's a whole new 2020 election thread out there today, go play in it and call me all the names want and disparage my beliefs because we don't agree. That would be very Donald Trump and CF of you.
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Your issue is that you won't agree with anything that doesn't fit your beliefs. You always want "proof" of shit but when people provide it, you discard it because YOU don't believe its factual. Are you a lawyer? Because you are MOST CERTAINLY not law enforcement, any type of investigator, or analyst. Why should anyone believe your sources are more "factual" than theirs? Especially when your sources are known to be vehemently anti-Trump (or anything conservative or libertarian for that matter).

Your political posts are never anything but circular reporting, conjecture, speculation, and echoed leftist talking points. And you "won't back down from the very few" of us who think we're superior beings? I applaud you. That's the most valid thing you've ever said. The problem is, you can't back down because you've never been on the same level of anyone here. They've all moved on from your biased ass a long time ago. Maybe someday you'll reach a level where you won't be punked by a 3rd grade southerner learning about politics for the first time.
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Your issue is that you won't agree with anything that doesn't fit your beliefs. You always want "proof" of shit but when people provide it, you discard it because YOU don't believe its factual. Are you a lawyer? Because you are MOST CERTAINLY not law enforcement, any type of investigator, or analyst. Why should anyone believe your sources are more "factual" than theirs? Especially when your sources are known to be vehemently anti-Trump (or anything conservative or libertarian for that matter).

Your political posts are never anything but circular reporting, conjecture, speculation, and echoed leftist talking points. And you "won't back down from the very few" of us who think we're superior beings? I applaud you. That's the most valid thing you've ever said. The problem is, you can't back down because you've never been on the same level of anyone here. They've all moved on from your biased ass a long time ago. Maybe someday you'll reach a level where you won't be punked by a 3rd grade southerner learning about politics for the first time.
Are we engaging again? All I see are your same circular comments and more insults. No thanks.
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Your issue is that you won't agree with anything that doesn't fit your beliefs. You always want "proof" of shit but when people provide it, you discard it because YOU don't believe its factual. Are you a lawyer? Because you are MOST CERTAINLY not law enforcement, any type of investigator, or analyst. Why should anyone believe your sources are more "factual" than theirs? Especially when your sources are known to be vehemently anti-Trump (or anything conservative or libertarian for that matter).

Your political posts are never anything but circular reporting, conjecture, speculation, and echoed leftist talking points. And you "won't back down from the very few" of us who think we're superior beings? I applaud you. That's the most valid thing you've ever said. The problem is, you can't back down because you've never been on the same level of anyone here. They've all moved on from your biased ass a long time ago. Maybe someday you'll reach a level where you won't be punked by a 3rd grade southerner learning about politics for the first time.
He’s in love with Romney and since Trump rejected Romney, he has to carry on and spread that hate on these little car forums.
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