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Old 06-03-2012, 6:48am   #21
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A different opinion, and this is the response? Go fuck yourself?
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A different opinion, and this is the response? Go fuck yourself?
A move to force this country to this type of utter horseshit is not "a different opinion."

It's something to be fought tooth and nail.


I'm not saying this is Communism at work here, but if you had lived in 1917 Russia, would you have referred to the Communist philosophies as "a different opinion?"

Sheesh.
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You know what tires me? All the damn pessimists masquerading as Conservatives.

Societal change happens. Get over it. Stop cowering in your little walled-in burbclaves and inside your tiny rigid inflexible minds and join us again as true Americans - forward looking, forward thinking, eager to see what's next.
You mean like the Patriot Act? Or CA trying to again raise the sin tax on cigs? Or like getting arrested for buying a 17 oz soda in NY?

Eager isn't the word I'd use when waiting to see what's next. The phrase "waiting for the other shoe to drop" seems more apropot.

In the America I grew up in, one right citizens DID NOT have was the right to not be butthurt, which is a right we should be declining rather than embracing.

Forcibly changing the names/mascots of sports teams? That isn't progress.
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A move to force this country to this type of utter horseshit is not "a different opinion."

It's something to be fought tooth and nail.


I'm not saying this is Communism at work here, but if you had lived in 1917 Russia, would you have referred to the Communist philosophies as "a different opinion?"

Sheesh.
While I obviously also vehemently disagree with his sentiments, the classy thing to do is make your argument and leave the crass insults out of it.
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Maui Jim?!
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While I obviously also vehemently disagree with his sentiments, the classy thing to do is make your argument and leave the crass insults out of it.
with this ****-sucking piece of shit.
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So I can't be a honky any more?
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Believe me, I know. I'm proud of the basis on which this country was founded and established - and I'm proud of those who serve this country. But when you sit back and look at all this crap......Can't say God, can't say Christmas, can't say Indian, black - everyone finds EVERYTHING offensive. Say it in the wrong place - get sued. I mean really? Have the majority of the people in this country become that big of pussies?! It's pathetic.

Another weak link in this country is the welfare system - now that I've seen and worked with it, but that's a rant for another day.
Nail on the head.

"Political correctness" is mere proof of the dumbing down of America.
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Believe me, I know. I'm proud of the basis on which this country was founded and established - and I'm proud of those who serve this country. But when you sit back and look at all this crap......Can't say God, can't say Christmas, can't say Indian, black - everyone finds EVERYTHING offensive. Say it in the wrong place - get sued. I mean really? Have the majority of the people in this country become that big of pussies?! It's pathetic.
You can still say all of those things.

The bigger question is that if a race of people find a word offensive, why would you still want to use it?

I think the law went too far in that I think a school should be allowed to keep the name if the tribe approves, but the intent is in the right place.

And by the way, the OP is wrong, "Warriors" will still be allowed.
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Here's another nail to consider.

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and people wonder why I'm no longer proud of my country.
One of these;


And one of these;



Will solve the problem. I understand frustration, but no longer proud of this country?
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You know what tires me? All the damn pessimists masquerading as Conservatives.

Societal change happens. Get over it. Stop cowering in your little walled-in burbclaves and inside your tiny rigid inflexible minds and join us again as true Americans - forward looking, forward thinking, eager to see what's next.
Hey, there are a few unraped chicks left at your local OWS. Best get crackin'!
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And by the way, the OP is wrong, "Warriors" will still be allowed.
The State Board of Education voted 5-1 at its May 17 meeting to ban the use of Native American mascots in all K-12 Oregon schools that receive public funding.

Schools must comply with the rule by July 1, 2017, or face loss of funding.

The Confederated Tribes of Siletz Indians released a statement May 18 against the decision.

The ban of Native American mascots does not address the issue of racism, the statement says.

“We will be forced once again to succumb to the misguided intentions of people who have no knowledge of Indian communities,” the statement says.

The Confederated Tribes of Siletz Indians said they passed a resolution that would “recognize the authority of the Tribes of Oregon to approve the use of Native American mascots and logos in their community schools.”

The ODE ban will affect Lebanon High School’s mascot, but not the name Warriors.
ODE bans mascot: Warriors may keep name, art sculpture
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Looks like you are splitting hairs here, Joe. The same thing happened at Ole Miss, where some peeps found the mascot (Col. Reb) "offensive"; not only did the mascot get changed, the team name did, too. (Now the "Black Bears"...and if I were Polar bear I'd be pissed!) If the school is still allowed to call its team "Warriors", but is prohibited from having a Warrior as its mascot, what kind of stupidity is that?
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You can still say all of those things.

The bigger question is that if a race of people find a word offensive, why would you still want to use it?

I think the law went too far in that I think a school should be allowed to keep the name if the tribe approves, but the intent is in the right place.

And by the way, the OP is wrong, "Warriors" will still be allowed.
But what would you consider in that category? Too many people are offended by 'Merry Christmas'. So clearly, we should not post it on signs, don't play the music in public, make sure we don't offend people. I mean - I don't celebrate Hanukkah, Kwanza - any of those, but I see no reason to 'ban' the word, claiming it offensive just because it's a religion I don't practice.

If it's clearly a word that is offensive (for instance, the N word) then yes, that's another story, but to ban the use of the word God in the pledge of allegiance, or tell kids they can't say the word Braves or Indian in school, that's just crap. Sure there's plenty of words I probably don't agree on or use, but I wouldn't say 'we need to ban it'. You just ignore it - simple as that.

Then again, that's just my opinion. What do I know?!
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You know what tires me? All the damn pessimists masquerading as Conservatives.

Societal change happens. Get over it. Stop cowering in your little walled-in burbclaves and inside your tiny rigid inflexible minds and join us again as true Americans - forward looking, forward thinking, eager to see what's next.
MOST societal changes are totally fabbed up from some liberal destructive 'think tank'.....and are NOT forward thinking at all, but going back to socialism/feudalism/communism, and as such are a complete waste of time and money, too damn many lawyers, not enough common sense,

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MOST societal changes are totally fabbed up from some liberal destructive 'think tank'.....and are NOT forward thinking at all, but going back to socialism/feudalism/communism, and as such are a complete waste of time and money, too damn many lawyers, not enough common sense,

Somebody hacked into Gene's account, I totally understood that whole post!


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How 'bout "The Fighting Irish of Notre Dame"? (Everyone knows the Irish love to get drunk and fight)

The Florida Southern Moccasins (Since we don't know if they're referring to Indian shoes or snakes, should it be banned?)

Shawnee High School (NJ) Renegades (Figure that one out!)

Anyway, the PC'ers have their work cut out for them:

Albany (GA) High School Indians
Alcorn State Braves
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Armijo Indians
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Bellevue East High School, Bellevue, Neb. Chieftains
Bellevue West High School, Bellevue, Neb. Thunderbirds
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Cherokee High School Warriors
Cherokee High School (NJ Chiefs
Chowan Braves
Choctawhatchee High School
Conemaugh Township Indians
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Council Rock North High School Indians
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Dodge County High School Indians
Escanaba Eskymos
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Gaffney High School Indians
Gaffney Middle School Chiefs
Gardena High School Mohicans
Gordon Central High School Warriors
Granard Middle School Warriors
Florida Southern Moccasins
Florida State University Seminoles
Four Winds High School Indians, Spirit Lake Reservation, Fort Totten, North Dakota
Hall High School (Connecticut)
Hawaiʻi Rainbow Warriors (men) and Rainbow Wahine (women) – "Wahine" is the Hawaiian word for "woman"
Since 2000, each team has been allowed to select its own mascot name; most notably, the football team has been simply known as "The Warriors". See University of Hawaii Athletics for details.
H.C. Wilcox Technical High School- The Indians
Hurricane (WV) High School Redskins
Iroquois Central School District Chiefs
Irwin County High School Indians
Jupiter Community High School Warriors
Knox (Indiana) High School Redskins
Lamar High School (Houston, Texas) Redskins
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Smithville (Missouri) High School Warriors-The Best School Ever!
Solen High School Sioux, Standing Rock Sioux Reservation, Solen, ND
South Stokes High School (N. Carolina) Sauras
South Bend St. Joseph's High School Indians.
Standing Rock High School Warriors, Standing Rock Indian Reservation, Fort Yates, ND
Susquehanna High School Indians Harrisburg, PA.
Teton High School Redskins - Driggs, Idaho
Thompson High School Warriors
Turtle Mountain Community Schools Braves, Turtle Mountain Indian Reservation, Belcourt, ND
UNC Pembroke Braves – representing a college originally created to educate American Indians
University of North Dakota Fighting Sioux
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University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign - have removed all official university sanction of Native American imagery, but unofficially, still widely used by students and fans - there is considerable controversy over whether the term "Illini" as originally used at the university was directly related to Native American culture at all, or whether the imagery was added after the fact; documentation tends to indicate that "Illini" refers to the state of Illinois itself and not its indigenous peoples.[7]
Warroad Warriors
Warwick High School Warriors, Spirit Lake Indian Reservation, Warwick, ND
Wawasee High School Warriors
Westhope (ND) High School Sioux
Wheaton Academy Warriors
White Shield High School Warrors, Fort Berthold Indian Reservation, Roseglen, ND
William & Mary Tribe – no longer uses any imagery related to indigenous peoples
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Waccamaw High School Warriors
Waite High School (OH) Indians
Watchung Hills Regional High School Warriors
Waunakee High School Warriors – Waunakee means peaceful valley in a Native American language
White County (GA) High School Warriors
Winnacunnet Warriors
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