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Old 01-28-2012, 5:43pm   #21
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I've got an associates degree and 10+ years in my field with a relatively diverse skillset and can't even get a a face to face interview for any jobs requiring a bachelors degree despite my experience. Problem is that it will take me another 6-8 years to finish my bachelors since the univeristy has cut most of the evening classes because of budget cuts (yet tuition is still increasing 4-5% each year) I'd switch schools but can't afford anything beyond the state university
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Age 68 here with 3 years college almost 40 years ago, I studied business, not that it gave me a damn piece of information to actually make money, hell a book keeping course in HS would have done that....

The ONLY college worth going for is HARD science, engineering, finance, econ, maybe some management....

Offhand I can't think of one other field that pays shit to make a degree in it worthwhile.....

All the welfare/liberal arts degrees are without any redeeming value except to some .gov welfare agency....that is defined as employing useless professors to teach things like english, philosophy, phychology, sociology (WTF IS THAT ANYWAY), ART, and of course underwater basketweaving.....

AND SO, an expanding population supplies these useless 'professors' with new clients, so they can teach useless crap to kids, wasting their time and effort and MONEY/DEBT, to fund another stupid building on some campus so some politician can name it after himself/who/what/EVER to appear sanctimonious and get his pix taken in front of some insipid crowd.....

THERE, did I kick enough ass for NOW???
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No degree no job but I sometimes wonder if some of my coworkers in the hospital bought their degree from a gumball machine.
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No degree no job but I sometimes wonder if some of my coworkers in the hospital bought their degree from a gumball machine.
OH do you EVER got that straight,
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I went to night school for nine years to get an ME......I was working at the time although I never held an engineering job.......But......When I completed my MBA I got a huge jump in pay and the door opened for advancement.......
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Degree, but no job now.

Managed to pick two industries that have imploded. Nuclear power plants and commercial real estate. Oops.

Woodworking is a break even hobby.
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My degree has never gotten me a job, however, the knowledge I gained at college is used in my career considerably.

Degree is in accounting, career is in software development, but I develop a ton of accounting business systems.
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I think having a degree helped me get my first job, but i didn't use it. I think it was more of who my next door neighbor was, lol. My degree is in Physics and i started as a Nuclear security guard. Did that for a year and a half and then bid in to the Chemistry dept. I ended up using my degree there for 7 years. Now i'm in training to be a reactor operator....
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Not quite sure how they have imploded
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On what planet did this happen? Not this one
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My first degree is Bachelor of Fine Arts - Graphic Design. Almost worthless unless I want to make about $35K a year slaving in a cubicle. But I've added a degree in Marketing which bumps me up to about $40K a year slaving in a cubicle.

But the fact is, it was the act of going to school, dealing with the school, and all the experiences around it that turned out to be valuable and make it worthwhile.

But my real "education" has been by starting and running my own businesses. I have spent zero time in a cubicle. And those marketing and graphic design folks work for me.
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Not unless I would switch majors.
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Old 01-28-2012, 7:02pm   #33
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There's not a classroom on this planet that can teach you as much as on the job training can.
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There's not a classroom on this planet that can teach you as much as on the job training can.
Perhaps, but you gotta GET to the job.
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Perhaps, but you gotta GET to the job.
Start in the mail room after you graduate from high school.

Seriously, name me one job that you can't do if you had on the job training without any formal education.
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Not only does college teach you things from books, but it measures you, to see if you have the wherewithal to endure to the end, (graduate).
It really is a microcosm of the real world, albeit protected, and teaches you how to maneuver through the BS of life. Not only is the study aspect a pita, but the registering, as well as all of the other ancillary BS that goes along with attending college. It's a wake up call, and teaches you the dog eat dog mentality. Either you adapt, and thrive, or you get thrown back into the sea of fishes. .....
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Start in the mail room after you graduate from high school.

Seriously, name me one job that you can't do if you had on the job training without any formal education.
Practice any sort of medicine, Operate a nuclear reactor, etc...
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Start in the mail room after you graduate from high school.

Seriously, name me one job that you can't do if you had on the job training without any formal education.
Engineer, doctor, accountant, physicist, rocket scientist........Want me to go on ?
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I would not have landed my first two jobs in sales and marketing w/o my degree. However, I am now a personal trainer at a gym, and flipping houses. So, my BA in marketing/management is somewhat useless at this point.
Had I had it to do over, I would have done something medical related. Most likely a physical therapist.
I'm only 33 tho, so going back to school is an option, a nauseating one, but still out there.
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Engineer, doctor, accountant, physicist, rocket scientist........Want me to go on ?
So you're telling me that a kid fresh out of high school with a reasonable degree of intelligence can't learn those jobs with 10 years of on the job training.......

Accountant Jeff, c'mon, you might as well of said grocery store clerk.

If you shadowed someone in any of those fields you'd learn much more than anything a "professor" could teach you.

Think about this, a kid fresh out of med school does not got straight into the operating room, he gets hands on experience before he goes near a scalpel and that's after 8 years of schooling so don't you think that he'd pick up a thing or two being along side a doctor for 8 years.
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