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Old 12-01-2023, 9:46am   #21
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I’m not sure who won or that it matters. On another political site I’m on they all say Newsom won by a considerable margin. I wasn’t impressed by either but I think Newsom accomplished what he set out to do by illustrating the difference between the right an left.

Like I said, I don’t think it matters because I’m relatively sure there was a captive right shifted audience and doubt anyone else cared all that much. All I know is Newsom scares me enough that I would probably even vote for Trump if those two were my only option.
Sounds like DU.
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As dumb as Newsome is and Joe Biden and Kamala Harris millions of people will still vote for them, Pathetic

Including some "so called" conservatives right here if Trump is the Republican candidate. Talk about pathetic.
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Including some "so called" conservatives right here if Trump is the Republican candidate. Talk about pathetic.
First time I've heard you admit Trump is pathetic. Well done.

How about a GOP candidate that has not been indicted 4 times on 91 charges against America, been found guilty of sexual harassment, been found guilty of running a sham charity, has admitted he was involved in a sham university and paid $29 million in restitution and is not currently being sued by the state of NY for cheating the people out of his share of tax dollars?

I'm sorry. I keep forgetting it is everyone's else's fault but not Trump's. Every judge, prosecutor, grand jury, election official, election worker, media outlet and on and on. That's what is pathetic. The cultists don't care about any of that and give him a pass after pass because Trump!

There are other candidates but the cult can't or just plain won't listen to them and will hand the White House back to the left in 2024. How is that any better than voting against Trump?

Also, for the record you brought up people's voting record as well as throwing Trump into this discussion, not me so don't roll with that TDS nonsense.
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The thought that there are people out there that actually think a) Newsome won, b) by a considerable margin, and c) he makes a good leader, makes me really lose hope in humanity.

Newsome is not human. He has no soul. He is beyond criminal and deserves worse than prison (just like pretty much all democrats).
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Here is what I predict Newsom's strategy/approach will be...

"I have repeatedly stated that I am not, and will not run in 2024, but the debates have brought to light the high risk of any of the opponents holding the office of President. Although I do not believe they can win, I cannot sit by and accept the risk. It is for that reason, I am announcing my run for President of the United States".
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First time I've heard you admit Trump is pathetic. Well done.

How about a GOP candidate that has not been indicted 4 times on 91 charges against America, been found guilty of sexual harassment, been found guilty of running a sham charity, has admitted he was involved in a sham university and paid $29 million in restitution and is not currently being sued by the state of NY for cheating the people out of his share of tax dollars?

I'm sorry. I keep forgetting it is everyone's else's fault but not Trump's. Every judge, prosecutor, grand jury, election official, election worker, media outlet and on and on. That's what is pathetic. The cultists don't care about any of that and give him a pass after pass because Trump!

There are other candidates but the cult can't or just plain won't listen to them and will hand the White House back to the left in 2024. How is that any better than voting against Trump?

Also, for the record you brought up people's voting record as well as throwing Trump into this discussion, not me so don't roll with that TDS nonsense.

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First time I've heard you admit Trump is pathetic. Well done.

How about a GOP candidate that has not been indicted 4 times on 91 charges against America, been found guilty of sexual harassment, been found guilty of running a sham charity, has admitted he was involved in a sham university and paid $29 million in restitution and is not currently being sued by the state of NY for cheating the people out of his share of tax dollars?

I'm sorry. I keep forgetting it is everyone's else's fault but not Trump's. Every judge, prosecutor, grand jury, election official, election worker, media outlet and on and on. That's what is pathetic. The cultists don't care about any of that and give him a pass after pass because Trump!


There are other candidates but the cult can't or just plain won't listen to them and will hand the White House back to the left in 2024. How is that any better than voting against Trump?

Also, for the record you brought up people's voting record as well as throwing Trump into this discussion, not me so don't roll with that TDS nonsense.
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newsum sucks
newsum knows he sucks
newsum did not answer ONE QUESTION
newsum WAS NOT there to debate
newsum was there to campaign
newsum, and depends joe, voters care nothing about facts, statistics and data
newsum supporters gave him the win
newsum could run on his TERRIBLE records and win in 2024 or 2028 or 2032
60+% of voters only vote for the candidate that can send them the most taxpayer money

OUR GREAT NATION is ****ED!!
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Here is what I predict Newsom's strategy/approach will be...

"I have repeatedly stated that I am not, and will not run in 2024, but the debates have brought to light the high risk of any of the opponents holding the office of President. Although I do not believe they can win, I cannot sit by and accept the risk. It is for that reason, I am announcing my run for President of the United States".
A Newsom candidacy is the one for sure reason I would vote for Trump.
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Trump is so far ahead in the polls he doesn't even have to debate
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Trump is so far ahead in the polls he doesn't even have to debate
What a bunch of jokesters!!

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...2024/national/

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Trump 60.0%

DeSantis 12.6%

Haley 9.5%

Ramaswamy 5.1%

Christie 2.9%

Burgum 1.1%

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First time I've heard you admit Trump is pathetic. Well done.

How about a GOP candidate that has not been indicted 4 times on 91 charges against America, been found guilty of sexual harassment, been found guilty of running a sham charity, has admitted he was involved in a sham university and paid $29 million in restitution and is not currently being sued by the state of NY for cheating the people out of his share of tax dollars?

I'm sorry. I keep forgetting it is everyone's else's fault but not Trump's. Every judge, prosecutor, grand jury, election official, election worker, media outlet and on and on. That's what is pathetic. The cultists don't care about any of that and give him a pass after pass because Trump!

There are other candidates but the cult can't or just plain won't listen to them and will hand the White House back to the left in 2024. How is that any better than voting against Trump?

Also, for the record you brought up people's voting record as well as throwing Trump into this discussion, not me so don't roll with that TDS nonsense.

You know what you sound like here? You sound like all the leftists pushing for MOAR gun laws. Well, gee, the mass shooter already broke a bunch of laws, but if we can just make ONE MOAR law, surely that will dissuade the prospective mass shooter or carjacker from perpetrating his/her/they/teddybear plan.

Well, shit, we've posted up 91 indictments, but these people are STILL going to vote for him. Let's indict another few times. Surely THAT will dissuade them from voting for Trump!

See the faulty logic here?
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A Newsom candidacy is the one for sure reason I would vote for Trump.
Is that a glimmer of hope I see?
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Is that a glimmer of hope I see?
I've stated that here in the past, I can't stand the thought of Newsom in the White House.
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As dumb as Newsome is and Joe Biden and Kamala Harris millions of people will still vote for them, Pathetic
Democrats have an Oakland Raiders Fan mentality. Simple as that. And are about as intelligent.
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those of us in California know how much of a fake newsome is, good to see others got a whiff of his bullshit....****ing piece of shit didn't answer 1 question, was there to smear desantis and hair boy ended up eating his own shit. He's nearly ruined a great state, already ****ed up SF and wants to screw the rest of the country up.
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There is a game show that I can barely manage to watch because the host reminds me WAY too much of Newsom.



There is literally NOTHING about Newsom that has any redeeming value.
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I've stated that here in the past, I can't stand the thought of Newsom in the White House.

After what he has done to California, I can't say that I blame you.
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Trump is so far ahead in the polls he doesn't even have to debate
If Trump can survive the witch hunt and the vote corruption, he WILL be the 47th president.
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