Got a taste of how lame CFOT has gotten

[DJ_Critterus]

Originally Posted by jw38

I was responsible for convincing Tommy Thompson Jr from MacMulkin Chevrolet to become a forum sponsor in 2004. Tommy and I have been friends for a long time and MacMulkin has been the #1 Corvette dealership in the world for the past two years. I told him about all the bullshit that's been happening on the site and he's reached out to IB to let them know about it. He was pissed when I told him that Inhad been perma-banned. He doubts anything will change, but at least he's let them know how he feels. He didn't know about the Barn, so we might see MacMulkin over here soon.

I wonder what they'd do if the #1 corvette dealer threatens to or actually does take his business elsewhere?

[dvarapala]

Originally Posted by Nosferatu

Can't get banned over PMs I believe.

The claim is that mods can't even see your PMs. Assuming that's a lie (every forum I've ever run has given me full ("root") access to everything, including "private" messages; if it's not end-t-end encrypted assume it's available), they won't admit that they banned you for the contents of your PMs - they'll trump up some other excuse.

In any case, good luck in your quest.

[Y2Kvert4me]

Originally Posted by dvarapala

The claim is that mods can't even see your PMs.

Unless they installed some sort of forum modification to facilitate it, mods definitely cannot randomly browse other's PMs*. Admins, possibly, but there's a lot of "ifs" to that as well.

In the admin control panel, there exists no simple option to access or read anyone's PMs. Not from someone's profile, not anywhere.
However, there is an option to execute SQL queries. If an admin knows his way around the database, and knows the specific table and column names involved, then yes, PMs are not encrypted and could be obtained by running such a query.
If the admin has root server and/or database access, then it's easier to do the same outside of the VBulletin control panel, especially if a database GUI is employed (ie; PhpMyAdmin). Back when Troy owned CF, I'm certain the admins had such access, and some likely did exactly that (read member PMs).

Under IB ownership, I highly doubt the current crop of forum admins are given server access, as IB has their own techs that maintain the server side stuff. I also doubt most even have FULL forum admin privileges. VBulletin does have "administrator permissions" settings, and for a site structured like CF, it would make little sense to have every admin "fully enabled", so to speak.
So things like the maintenance panel (where one can run db queries) can be enabled/disabled on a per admin basis, and given that database tools in the hands of someone that doesn't know WTF they're doing can potentially be a very dangerous thing....I seriously can't imagine someone like Cumdawg or Vetteman Jack having those sorts of privileges, even though they sport the admin title under their name.


*The notable exception as to how mods and/or admins could read someone else's PM: The fact PMs can be reported just the same as any post in a thread. When someone reports a PM, the contents of that private message is shared with the mods tasked with handling reported items.
So for example if you PM someone there and say "Hey, **** this oppressive shithole, come join The Vette Barn", and the recipient decides it's spam and reports it...Then yes, the mods will see exactly what you sent and you can bet they will take action against you for it.

[Don Rickles]

Originally Posted by Y2Kvert4me

Unless they installed some sort of forum modification to facilitate it, mods definitely cannot randomly browse other's PMs*. Admins, possibly, but there's a lot of "ifs" to that as well.

In the admin control panel, there exists no simple option to access or read anyone's PMs. Not from someone's profile, not anywhere.
However, there is an option to execute SQL queries. If an admin knows his way around the database, and knows the specific table and column names involved, then yes, PMs are not encrypted and could be obtained by running such a query.
If the admin has root server and/or database access, then it's easier to do the same outside of the VBulletin control panel, especially if a database GUI is employed (ie; PhpMyAdmin). Back when Troy owned CF, I'm certain the admins had such access, and some likely did exactly that (read member PMs).

Under IB ownership, I highly doubt the current crop of forum admins are given server access, as IB has their own techs that maintain the server side stuff. I also doubt most even have FULL forum admin privileges. VBulletin does have "administrator permissions" settings, and for a site structured like CF, it would make little sense to have every admin "fully enabled", so to speak.
So things like the maintenance panel (where one can run db queries) can be enabled/disabled on a per admin basis, and given that database tools in the hands of someone that doesn't know WTF they're doing can potentially be a very dangerous thing....I seriously can't imagine someone like Cumdawg or Vetteman Jack having those sorts of privileges, even though they sport the admin title under their name.


*The notable exception as to how mods and/or admins could read someone else's PM. The fact PMs can be reported just the same as any post in a thread. When someone reports a PM, the contents of that private message is shared with the mods tasked with handling reported items.
So for example if you PM someone there and say "Hey, **** this oppressive shithole, come join The Vette Barn", and the recipient decides it's spam and reports it...Then yes, the mods will see exactly what you sent and you can bet they will take action against you for it.

So, if Anj wants to set up a date with toots, all I have to do to help is report his ass?

[Vandelay Industries]

The law of unintended consequences: 89x2 is starting new threads on previous fascinating subjects, instead of bumping the old ones.

[Bruze]

Originally Posted by Don Rickles

So, if Anj wants to set up a date with toots, all I have to do to help is report his ass?

Stick to making pickles, pal.

[CurtP]

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...post1607655345

[Don Rickles]

Originally Posted by CurtP

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...post1607655345

Quite the double standard but he's not wrong

[Allan]

Originally Posted by Don Rickles

Quite the double standard but he's not wrong

Chemdog locked your popcorn thread! WTF

[LATB]

Originally Posted by DJ_Critterus

I wonder what they'd do if the #1 corvette dealer threatens to or actually does take his business elsewhere?

Nothing. IB probably does ot GAF.

[Taurus]

Originally Posted by Y2Kvert4me

Unless they installed some sort of forum modification to facilitate it, mods definitely cannot randomly browse other's PMs*. Admins, possibly, but there's a lot of "ifs" to that as well.

In the admin control panel, there exists no simple option to access or read anyone's PMs. Not from someone's profile, not anywhere.
However, there is an option to execute SQL queries. If an admin knows his way around the database, and knows the specific table and column names involved, then yes, PMs are not encrypted and could be obtained by running such a query.
If the admin has root server and/or database access, then it's easier to do the same outside of the VBulletin control panel, especially if a database GUI is employed (ie; PhpMyAdmin). Back when Troy owned CF, I'm certain the admins had such access, and some likely did exactly that (read member PMs).

Under IB ownership, I highly doubt the current crop of forum admins are given server access, as IB has their own techs that maintain the server side stuff. I also doubt most even have FULL forum admin privileges. VBulletin does have "administrator permissions" settings, and for a site structured like CF, it would make little sense to have every admin "fully enabled", so to speak.
So things like the maintenance panel (where one can run db queries) can be enabled/disabled on a per admin basis, and given that database tools in the hands of someone that doesn't know WTF they're doing can potentially be a very dangerous thing....I seriously can't imagine someone like Cumdawg or Vetteman Jack having those sorts of privileges, even though they sport the admin title under their name.


*The notable exception as to how mods and/or admins could read someone else's PM: The fact PMs can be reported just the same as any post in a thread. When someone reports a PM, the contents of that private message is shared with the mods tasked with handling reported items.
So for example if you PM someone there and say "Hey, **** this oppressive shithole, come join The Vette Barn", and the recipient decides it's spam and reports it...Then yes, the mods will see exactly what you sent and you can bet they will take action against you for it.

I have never been given access to PM files where I lead some of their communities. I don't think it happens.

[Don Rickles]

Originally Posted by Allan

Chemdog locked your popcorn thread! WTF

Why?

[6spdC6]

Originally Posted by Don Rickles

Why?

Mod was bored and needed something to do. They make up and change their rules often so to them it makes sense!

[Don Rickles]

It was Douglas….

[Murray]

Originally Posted by Don Rickles

It was Douglas….

Guaranteed he’s here daily. Tell him to FO….he’ll see it

[LATB]

Originally Posted by Don Rickles

It was Douglas….

What’s that guys problem?

[mtnman]

Originally Posted by LATB

What’s that guys problem?

Prolly off his meds again.

[Don Rickles]

Originally Posted by Murray

Guaranteed he’s here daily. Tell him to FO….he’ll see it

Originally Posted by LATB

What’s that guys problem?

Originally Posted by mtnman

Prolly off his meds again.

You know, Rickles aka WB never had a problem with him? I replied honestly as well? He didn’t believe I was being genuine I suppose? That bastard can remember shit and takes notes like the best of them! Really, my memory sucks so I envy….I know some here have different opinions and maybe or maybe not are they founded on truths. None of my business I hardly ever read a word and avoided the kids games over him.

I’ll share a little more from the email I received from the mod. Somewhat interesting to some of you perhaps.

[LATB]

Originally Posted by Don Rickles

You know, Rickles aka WB never had a problem with him? I replied honestly as well? He didn’t believe I was being genuine I suppose? That bastard can remember shit and takes notes like the best of them! Really, my memory sucks so I envy….I know some here have different opinions and maybe or maybe not are they founded on truths. None of my business I hardly ever read a word and avoided the kids games over him.

I’ll share a little more from the email I received from the mod. Somewhat interesting to some of you perhaps.

WB?

[Vandelay Industries]

Originally Posted by LATB

What’s that guys problem?

That would fill up a lot of yellow pads.