Trump lead in polls is increasing

[dvarapala]

Originally Posted by Aerovette

When someone is on record as making shit up, it puts everything they do and say in question.

QFT

[Onebadcad]

Originally Posted by cptlo306

Sigh...I don't understand why this is so confusing to so many people.

Just because Trump wasn't guilty in some instances doesn't mean he isn't guilty in others. I'm not stating that Trump is guilty. I don't know and nobody knows for sure at this point. I'm simply stating that it is possible he is guilty and how the case was brought won't change that.

Do you understand our ENTIRE legal system is built on objectivity, consistency, scope and fairness,,, witch hunts ended in Salem.

[LATB]

Originally Posted by Onebadcad

Do you understand our ENTIRE legal system is built on objectivity, consistency, scope and fairness,,, witch hunts ended in Salem.

Witch hunts are alive and well in the democrats world.

[Mick]

Originally Posted by cptlo306

I'm not a Democrat.

Once again, you people (Trumpsters) can't seem to understand the very simple concept of a conservative not liking Trump and not thinking Trump is the best candidate for POTUS. It's rather simple but most of the Trumpsters can't understand it because they have drank the Trump cult koolaid.

With that said, I understand that short of something odd going on, Trump will be the Republican nominee. That doesn't mean we should ignore and stop discussing the challenges he is going to face based on his record and actions.

Wait guys, I think I have this one: cptlo306 is upset that some folks he is painting with an EXTREMELY broad brush, are painting him with a brush a little broader than he would like. Yeah, I guess that would suck, maybe.

[Taurus]

Originally Posted by LATB

Witch hunts are alive and well in the democrats world.

I can't speak to the first NY indictment for hush money payments or Jack Smith's election interference indictment but the others are a result of actions Trump took, they are not witch hunts.

He actively solicited GA officials for votes which started the whole thing, that's on him. His representative has admitted to lying about fraud they claimed happened but knew it did not. Not sure how that one is made up.

Same with the document case. You all keep forgetting, his charges are not based on taking documents, his charges relate to obstruction to give them back. HIS people told the DOJ he had documents. HIS people told the DOJ he still had them after he responded that he did not. HIS people hid them at his resort. That's what resulted in the search warrant and they found the documents. Again, not a witch hunt. Remember, he has admitted all of this in several interviews he did after the fact.

The others, I can't and won't say.

[LATB]

Originally Posted by cptlo306

I'm not a Democrat.

Once again, you people (Trumpsters) can't seem to understand the very simple concept of a conservative not liking Trump and not thinking Trump is the best candidate for POTUS. It's rather simple but most of the Trumpsters can't understand it because they have drank the Trump cult koolaid.

With that said, I understand that short of something odd going on, Trump will be the Republican nominee. That doesn't mean we should ignore and stop discussing the challenges he is going to face based on his record and actions.

Trump is the only conservative choice. I’m a Trump supporter but not in any cult and didn’t drink any koolaide.

[LATB]

Originally Posted by Taurus

I can't speak to the first NY indictment for hush money payments or Jack Smith's election interference indictment but the others are a result of actions Trump took, they are not witch hunts.

He actively solicited GA officials for votes which started the whole thing, that's on him. His representative has admitted to lying about fraud they claimed happened but knew it did not. Not sure how that one is made up.

Same with the document case. You all keep forgetting, his charges are not based on taking documents, his charges relate to obstruction to give them back. HIS people told the DOJ he had documents. HIS people told the DOJ he still had them after he responded that he did not. HIS people hid them at his resort. That's what resulted in the search warrant and they found the documents. Again, not a witch hunt. Remember, he has admitted all of this in several interviews he did after the fact.

The others, I can't and won't say.

Simple question:
Do you believe that they would be going after Trump if he was not in the race?

[Taurus]

Originally Posted by LATB

Simple question:
Do you believe that they would be going after Trump if he was not in the race?

On the two I mentioned, yes. On the other two probably not.

[cptlo306]

Originally Posted by LATB

Do you think for one minute that they would be going after Trump if he wasn't running?

Not as much, but some likely still would.

[cptlo306]

Originally Posted by Aerovette

When someone is on record as making shit up, it puts everything they do and say in question.

Do you agree with that statement when it comes to all the BS Trump made up about DeSantis?

[LATB]

Originally Posted by Taurus

On the two I mentioned, yes. On the other two probably not.

Originally Posted by cptlo306

Not as much, but some likely still would.

Appreciate both of your answers. Thanks

[Mick]

Originally Posted by cptlo306

Again, I agree that bringing the charges is political but that doesn't mean that he is fully innocent.

All the things you mentioned should have been investigated and charged accordingly.

Does it bother you that the folks in NY prosecuting him for "fraud" have already admitted that there is no victim, and that all loans that are the subject of the prosecution are either current on their payments, or the liabilities have been extinguished because the loans are paid in full?

Do you really think it is a crime to estimate future cash inflows, and then have actual cash inflows fall short of initial estimates, even though everyone involved got, and continues to get, paid in full and on time?

Do you really think it is right to change the statute of limitations on a potential crime, simply because you want to prosecute a political rival?

Serious questions all.

If you answer yes to the above, I recommend you read up on Stalinist Russia, and his right hand man Beria. You'll see these are NOT new ideas.

[Taurus]

Originally Posted by cptlo306

Do you agree with that statement when it comes to all the BS Trump made up about DeSantis?

Or Ted Cruz in 2016?

[LATB]

Originally Posted by Taurus

Or Ted Cruz in 2016?

Or Kamala calling Biden a racist.

[cptlo306]

Originally Posted by LATB

Trump is the only conservative choice. I’m a Trump supporter but not in any cult and didn’t drink any koolaide.

He is the only somewhat conservative choice now. He wasn't before the primaries started.

[cptlo306]

Originally Posted by Mick

Does it bother you that the folks in NY prosecuting him for "fraud" have already admitted that there is no victim, and that all loans that are the subject of the prosecution are either current on their payments, or the liabilities have been extinguished because the loans are paid in full?

Do you really think it is a crime to estimate future cash inflows, and then have actual cash inflows fall short of initial estimates, even though everyone involved got, and continues to get, paid in full and on time?

Do you really think it is right to change the statute of limitations on a potential crime, simply because you want to prosecute a political rival?

Serious questions all.

If you answer yes to the above, I recommend you read up on Stalinist Russia, and his right hand man Beria. You'll see these are NOT new ideas.

Funny that you only bring up one case...one of the weakest. Now do the documents case. And the Georgia case.

[LATB]

Originally Posted by cptlo306

He is the only somewhat conservative choice now. He wasn't before the primaries started.

If you are a conservative he is the only choice. Yes now because the voters are making that clear.

[Onebadcad]

Originally Posted by cptlo306

Funny that you only bring up one case...one of the weakest. Now do the documents case. And the Georgia case.

Regarding documents, depends joe IS MUCH MORE GUILTY, AND COMMITTED MUCH HIGHER CRIMES--HE STOLE CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS!!

And as we all know, and predicted, it went away silently, kind of like all the sillary classified computer crimes, for which if TRMP did he would have been beheaded.

[Taurus]

Originally Posted by Onebadcad

Regarding documents, depends joe IS MUCH MORE GUILTY, AND COMMITTED MUCH HIGHER CRIMES--HE STOLE CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS!!

And as we all know, and predicted, it went away silently, kind of like all the sillary classified computer crimes, for which if TRMP did he would have been beheaded.

Joe voluntarily notified the feds and returned them when found. He also allowed a complete search if his home and offices. Trump obstructed the DOJ from getting them back. Trump was not charged with taking them either.

[Bill]

Originally Posted by Taurus

Joe voluntarily notified the feds and returned them when found. He also allowed a complete search if his home and offices. Trump obstructed the DOJ from getting them back. Trump was not charged with taking them either.

Joe never had permission to remove them in the first place. Yet they magically appeared, in his garage and at the Chinese backed university Brandon gets a check from, but does no work at. And more to the point, PENCE had classified documents, too. And he, too, wasn't supposed to take them home. You know how you know Pence is dirty? Because they aren't going after Pence. They NEVER went after Pence.

It's making it easy to see who is on your team.....if the Brandon regime went after people, they're solid America First folks, people to be trusted. Those that incredibly were left alone? They were spying snakes, or they were bribed Kari Lake style, or they were coerced with the threat of, what, Harrison Deal style car bombs? Notice how Georgia Governor Kemp suddenly switched teams after his future son in law got blown up?

Trump, Bush, Obama, Clinton, Ford, Nixon, etc.....they all had a right to remove classified info. Obama is hiding all kinds of classified shit right now, claiming it will be in his presidential library that, hey, hasn't been built yet, and probably won't be built, because what better way to keep all that classified shit from being recovered.

Classified documents? It's yet ANOTHER bullshit lawfare abuse by the Brandon regime. It's banana republic shit.