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If a person is not learning something new every day and making themselves better, then they are falling further and further behind. Personal choice has good and bad outcomes. When your choice provides a bad result, it SHOULD HURT, then maybe you'll choose wisely the next time. |
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WTF does "no marketable skills" mean? Unless you're disabled and absolutely cannot work you have marketable skills. Why do we import legal and illegal aliens, who have little to no formal education, to do manual labor jobs that American citizens used to do? Because Americans have gotten lazy. Until COVID hit the unemployment rate was at historic lows, to the point that anyone who wanted a job could get one - "wanted" being the important word there.
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The old man didn’t even wait for it to end: “I’m sorry I can’t help you” was his remark. The guy in the wheelchair says “You can’t or won’t help me?” “Take your pick” he says. “So this is how you treat your fellow man who served their country?” (By this point I was paying more attention). The old guy spins around, opens his car door and puts on one of those hats that shows what ship he was on in the Vietnam war, puts it on and looks at this idiot: “Listen you jackass...I served with people who were far more damaged than you. They went on to live successful lives, got degrees, raised families. What they didn’t do was roll around a parking lot having a pity party begging for money. You’re not here because you’re disabled...you’re here because you’re lazy and stupid.” Whoa. Wheelchair boy was stunned and speechless. As he walked past me and I reached out and gave him a fist pump. “You’re my hero” I said. “Don’t **** with a 2-star” he responded. His hat said “USS Coral Sea.” |
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I grew up in a blue collar town in a blue collar home. If you lived in my neighborhood you went to work in one of three places; 3M Whirlpool American Hoist. All those jobs were unskilled but they all paid well enough for the woman of the household to stay home and raise the kids. THOSE are the jobs that are gone. |
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Places like Skid Row are full of people like this. People like this are why you have human feces on the streets of San Francisco.
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They aren't handed out. They are obtained. My first job was a busboy. Busboys don't drive nice cars. Busboys don't go on vacation. Busboys don't maintain a relationship with anyone of substance for long. I knew jack shit about doing anything but bussing tables. I did it for a year. Then I got a job making pizzas. I showed initiative and a desire to NOT make pizzas forever and I became an assistant manager. Did I know how to be an assistant manager? Hell no. I was taught...because I SHOWED INITIATIVE. I then got a job in a warehouse and the first day I showed up for work, the HR guy pulled me aside and said, I think we have something better for you. I became a Quality Control Inspector because...I showed interest and initiative during my interview. Then I became a Lab Technician, then moved in to sales and tech support. ALL OF THIS with ZERO experience and ZERO college. I did it because of who I CHOSE to be... and it was not a BUSBOY. The fktard on the fry machine pulling his phone out every 30 seconds to fk with it, is going to be making fries until he is fired for taking his phone out one too many times. Give that shitbag $15.00 and he will show NO initiative to do anything else that might involve WORK. Keep him hungry and he will have little choice but to get his shit together and move on/up. This is where my ex completely fkd up. She coddled and provided and spoiled my step-daughter and essentially has made her a very cute, worthless contributor to society. The looks will go soon enough and she had best marry up. |
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Again...stupid should hurt. Instead of giving a homeless person a buck to get another beer, how about giving him an option to get training to get marketable skills? They have to want it. If they want to learn and want to get off of the street, then let's help them. If all they want is a handout, then again I say survival of the fittest.
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Just like elections, choices in life have consequences. Make stupid choices, win stupid prizes. Don't expect the government or taxpayers to bail you out.
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former neighbor gal, she sold her lot and moved to a place about 8 miles south, but we still keep in touch with her (made her a little desk recently and loaned her some tools which i got back). she's 35, has a masters in something (public policy i think), works this little dead end job for the state gov't. says she doesn't want to work, just wants to go shopping and play all day. well, sweetie, you better find a dumb rich guy who will put up with that, because the rest of the successful world has to work to earn their keep.
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Ok back on topic a little, we all know people are lazy adn shouldn't be rewarded for such behavior.
Move on from the lazy fuker part as not what i wanted to talk about. So let's say you're a 40 year old hard worker doing one of these menial jobs such as floor buffer. Along comes a tablet and takes your job , you've worked there 20 years always did a great job and was happy with your station in life that job provided. Suddenly you are on your ass looking for a comparable job salary wise. You're obviously behind the curve in keeping up with "tech" lets say. Pehaps you're skilled enough and smart enough to goto a tech school and take a few years courses knowing with zero experience your new salary will suck... Perhaps you cannot see a light at the end of the tunnel. So along comes socialism talk, guaranteed income etc. From that person perspective it could sound appealing, yes? Now throw in a young person of 17 or 18, decent student, decent hard working parents, doesn't want to or cannot afford a 100k degree so desides to join the work force. Normally it'd be a bag boy, floor sweeper, cashier, etc. Well those jobs are not around nearly as much now so what do they do? Nothing half the time I bet and the socialism thing becomes appealing, yes? Just wondering with socialism type thoughts have wormed their way into the country. |
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I put part (maybe a lot) of the blame on social media, where you find others with the same view and thoughts. I also blame the media, and people who think if it's on the internet or on the TV it must be true, and so they do no research on their own and they have no clue about how to think for themselves. If you're lazy socialism sounds good. If you don't know how it's utterly failed in other countries, I can see it sounding good, especially when a prominent politician like Sanders lies about how good it is. |
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every time we identify some problem in society, the most common response is:
"the gov't should fix that" and that's the problem. charity used to be done privately, nice old ladies would run the charity house, they'd screen those seeking handouts, and gently help or guide people in a useful direction. not anymore. now Uncle Sam is the first place people go looking for charity. but those running the show have no interest in you besides making their day short and their work load light. it's just a dead end job to them. and they can't say no to bums, they have to follow the rules. you pass the sniff test, you get the money. there is no easy answer. if there was, we'd have found it by now. |
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In that case enjoy having them in your neighborhood. Around here they give homeless people the bum's rush, but no sooner is one escorted to the city limits another one pops up to take their place.
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