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Perhaps the FBI was too busy investigating hillary and they overlooked this piece of trash.
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any large gathering of people is a potential target for those who wish to do us harm. we cannot 'harden' every possible place that has more than 3 people in it at a given time.
but we can investigate those who preach and teach harm to us. and then convict them of an appropriate crime and either imprison them or deport them. we can allow law abiding people the means to defend themselves and others wherever they go. we could even support those who cannot afford a proper gun and ammo with some training and supplies. but putting our heads in the sands won't fix this and will only result in getting our asses shot at again. |
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Only the ones who were illegally carrying. Fact is people who are concealed carry holder are less likely to commit any crime from felonies to traffic infractions. CPRC in Fox News: Police are extremely Law-abiding, but concealed handgun permit holders are even more so - Crime Prevention Research CenterCrime Prevention Research Center NY Times Proves Concealed Carry License Holders More Law-Abiding Than the Population. Unintentionally. - The Truth About Guns |
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And Since FDR refuse to allow Jews to immigrate to the USA before and during WWII because it was felt they could be "Terrorists" ( Actually spies but you get the point) The U.S. Government Turned Away Thousands of Jewish Refugees, Fearing That They Were Nazi Spies | History | Smithsonian |
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What the actual fvck? That's what you got from that? OK, seriously, the attacks on the First Amendment are almost exclusively from the left, just a handy FYI. "Hate Speech" et al. But this isn't about race or even religion. Islam isn't a religion in the traditional sense. It's a political system wrapped in a bow that has a whiff of religion. You have Islamic states and you have Muslims living in other countries where the goal is to make them Islamic states. I mean, all you have to do is actually listen to what their radicals say. And by radicals, I mean the Mullahs, the Clerics, the esteemed leadership of ISIS. Oh, and even better than that, the one thing you can unify the Shias and the Sunnis over is "convert or die."
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It seems like you're looking for some precedent giving you the ability to launch Muslims from the United States circumventing the 1st Amendment. But. You'll defend the 2nd Amendment without so much as entertaining a discussion. That's what it looks like which may not be your intent. |
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I don't think most people realize they are at war with us. They are. Hoping for puppies and rainbows isn't going to work. They want to kill us and they want our country destroyed. That's their stated goals. One they are actively pursuing, and they use our very freedom against us whenever possible. Having thousands more show up here doesn't "make us a better country", it doesn't prove that we are above all this. It makes us patsies. It makes us fools in their eyes. And honestly, at this point Europe is toast. Give them 30 years and it will be the Caliphate there, unless something major happens between now and then. They simply out-breed Europeans about 10-1. And when they have anything close to a majority, well, that's it. |
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Amendment I. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. Amendment II: A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. I see lots of wiggle-room in the First Amendment, if for not other reason because it covers a lot of things: Religion, speech, the press, assembly, and petitioning for redress of grievances. As an elementary example, I agree that freedom of speech does not give a right to yell, "Fire!", in a crowded theater. The Second Amendment isn't so inclusive: It is restricted to giving the right of people to keep and bear arms. Besides, you're confusing two different areas of the law. The First Amendment has nothing to do with immigration and its limitations. The Constitution speaks to immigration only once, and that is to give Congress the exclusive right to enact laws concerning immigration. (Which makes Obama's Executive Orders illegal.) I'm off the clock right now, so I won't respond to your argument. Immigration is a diverse area of the law, and attorneys tend to specialize in particular types of cases. Just know that you aren't qualified to give opinions on this area of the law; that's best left to actual experts. |
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unless mrs. clinton grows some balls (so to speak), Trump will be president, due in large part to this incident.
there will be more carnage before that happens. these killers don't need marching orders from HQ, they believe the koran tells them to do these types of acts when they can. they aren't afraid of dying. |
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We'll wait. . If common knowledge and sense we would not have many of todays probelms. Fact is study after study show CCW. Holders are the least likely to commit any crime. |
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