Number 1 with a Bullet: NY Prepares to Implement Background Checks on Ammo Sales

[Bill]

https://www.adirondackdailyenterpris...ground-checks/

State Police preparing to take over gun background checks
New York news

Sep 5, 2023
ALEX GAULT
Johnson Newspapers

ALBANY — New York is set to implement a new background check system for all gun and ammunition purchases, and with that new system will come new transaction fees.

On Sept. 13, the New York State Police will take over all background checks for gun purchases in the state, handling all applications as a go-between for the federal National Instant Criminal Background Check system that has been used for years. They’ll also now require background checks for ammo purchases.

To finance the program, gun buyers will now see a $9 fee for firearm purchases and $2.50 for ammo purchases, charged per transaction.

It’s all driven by the decade-old New York SAFE Act, which mandated that State Police take over gun background checks, and begin processing ammo checks when it was passed, but left the specifics of the program up to further legislation. Last year, the state legislature approved the program taking effect in two weeks.

Gun advocates, as well as sportsmen and hunters have expressed concerns over the new system. They expect delays as the state implements the new system, and long wait times for the new office to process the volume of transactions expected. Gun sellers can now handle a background check in minutes from their own computers, but will soon be required to submit all materials to an intermediary with the State Police. The addition of ammo checks, which require all the same information as a gun check, is expected to significantly increase the volume of requests.

Additionally, background checks will be required for all transfers of ammo between intermediaries, which sporting officials have said will burden organized shooting sports.

It’s garnered the attention of U.S. Reps. Elise Stefanik, R-Willsboro, Claudia Tenney, R-Canandaigua, and Nick Langworthy, R-Jamestown, who sent a letter to Gov. Kathy Hochul last week asking her to delay the implementation of the new background check system.

“This system will only increase the likelihood of backlogs, the possibility of mishandled personal information and fails to consider an appeals process for individuals denied during background checks,” the letter reads.

It has also received pushback from Republicans at the state level, who voted against the new background check law last year as a block. Sen. Mark Walczyk, R-Watertown, who voted against the new system as an assemblyman last year, on Wednesday introduced legislation that would waive the fees charged for the background checks. The State Police office tasked with handling the checks has no other funding support, so canceling the fees would ultimately leave the program unfunded.

“The surcharge on ammo is ridiculous and unconstitutional,” Walczyk said in a statement. “NICS checks on gun purchases are a common sense way to keep guns out of the hands of criminals. However, Kathy Hochul’s ammo tax only penalizes law-abiding firearm owners. This Albany Democrat overreach is going to hurt small gun shops across New York and jobs are going to be lost across the state as a direct result of this policy.”

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[Rob]

Neighboring states will love this law.

[Bruze]

According to Dan Bongino last week, who is on top of this stuff, the ATF is enacting a "regulation" that to transfer ANY firearm you will first have to become an FFL dealer.

The push, of course, is to get a list of all off-paper guns. This always works out well.

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[roadpilot]

Another reason why I wont live in New York.

[Bill]

Originally Posted by Rob

Neighboring states will love this law.

Now the folks smuggling low taxed cigarettes into NY can just toss some ammo in the same truck to make it a full load.

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[Bruze]

Originally Posted by roadpilot

Another reason why I wont live in New York.

Yeah you're safe. Communism never spreads.

[Bill]

Originally Posted by Bruze

Yeah you're safe. Communism never spreads.

“There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.”
― Ayn Rand

[VITE1]

So happy we left that leftist utopia in the 90's.

[Frankie the Fink]

Originally Posted by Bruze

According to Dan Bongino last week, who is on top of this stuff, the ATF is enacting a "regulation" that to transfer ANY firearm you will first have to become an FFL dealer.

The push, of course, is to get a list of all off-paper guns. This always works out well.

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And Dan followed up stating that ANY small paperwork or business transgression will get your FFL pulled and they've already begun doing it

[Bruze]

Originally Posted by Frankie the Fink

And Dan followed up stating that ANY small paperwork or business transgression will get your FFL pulled and they've already begun doing it

Well sure, the goal of this and all gun control laws is complete civilian disarmament (except for Left-wing activists).

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[DJ_Critterus]

Time to stock up and greet the gestapo armed at the door if needed. Most sheep will just hope the shepherd saves them, though.

[Mike Mercury]

NY Prepares to Implement Background Checks on Ammo Sales

how about welfare drug tests?

[DJ_Critterus]

Originally Posted by Mike Mercury

how about welfare drug tests?

WTF is wrong with you? You know damn well that common sense is not allowed in libtard infested area

[Don Rickles]

Buy ammo company stocks NOW! These news alerts alway end up in a rush to buy ammo or guns. A ploy, can't you see the signs......

[Bruze]

Originally Posted by DJ_Critterus

Time to stock up and greet the gestapo armed at the door if needed. Most sheep will just hope the shepherd saves them, though.

That's old school, too messy for them.

New school: Fork over all guns, $5,000 fine per day per gun for not doing so, or we will freeze your bank accounts, credit cards, kill your electric and cell service, revoke your driver's license, etc.

[Hardluck]

Demoncrats are a bane to society!

[GTOguy]

Originally Posted by Mike Mercury

how about welfare drug tests?

And risk losing voters? NEVER.

[ZipZap]

Originally Posted by Rob

Neighboring states will love this law.

Always ran across the bridge to MD from VA for sizable liquor buys. They were even stopping cars, probably still are, to see if there's smuggling going on. Silesia Liquor in Ft Washington was awesome.

Let's see. If you're taxing the shit out of something that DC and Maryland sell more freely, why would I shop in VA?

[99 pewtercoupe]

Illinois has had a system in place for years. In order to buy a gun or ammunition, you need a Firearm Owners ID (FOID) card.
It is a State Police issued photo ID you get after submitting an application and clearing their background check. If you want to walk into a Walmart and buy a box of 22LR or a box of shotgun shells, you need to show your card and they record the purchase along with your FOID number

God, I’m glad we got out of that shithole state 6 years ago

[markids77]

Originally Posted by Rob

Neighboring states will love this law.

Massachusetts already has that one covered. Without a State issued Firearms ID you cannot buy either guns or ammo. It has been that way for years.