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Old 11-30-2023, 4:15pm   #1
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Default 3,000 auto dealers sign letter opposing Biden's electric vehicle mandate

Electric vehicles 'are stacking up on our lots,' car dealers write to Biden

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...cbo=v2-MlKDcXm

A coalition of more than 3,000 auto dealers nationwide is sending an open letter to President Biden, calling on him to "tap the brakes" on his administration's aggressive electric vehicle (EV) push.

The coalition — which includes dealers located in all 50 states and who collectively sell every major car brand — is taking particular aim at the Biden administration's tailpipe emissions standards released earlier this year which are the most aggressive federal regulations of their kind ever issued. Under the regulations proposed by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), the majority of new vehicle purchases will be electric within a decade.

"These vehicles are ideal for many people, and we believe their appeal will grow over time," the dealers wrote in their letter to Biden on Tuesday. "The reality, however, is that electric vehicle demand today is not keeping up with the large influx of BEVs [battery electric vehicles] arriving at our dealerships prompted by the current regulations. BEVs are stacking up on our lots."

"Last year, there was a lot of hope and hype about EVs," the letter continued. "Early adopters formed an initial line and were ready to buy these vehicles as soon as we had them to sell. But that enthusiasm has stalled. Today, the supply of unsold BEVs is surging, as they are not selling nearly as fast as they are arriving at our dealerships -- even with deep price cuts, manufacturer incentives, and generous government incentives."

They added that, while the goals of the EPA regulations are admirable, they are also "unrealistic based on current and forecasted customer demand." The dealers further noted that the best indicator of customer demand in the auto marketplace is how EVs are stacking up in their lots.

The letter further noted that there are many issues facing the EV industry such as lacking charging infrastructure, energy grid instability and a lack of reliable mineral supplies vital for EV batteries.

"Mr. President, it is time to tap the brakes on the unrealistic government electric vehicle mandate. Allow time for the battery technology to advance. Allow time to make BEVs more affordable. Allow time to develop domestic sources for the minerals to make batteries," the letter stated.

"Allow time for the charging infrastructure to be built and prove reliable. And most of all, allow time for the American consumer to get comfortable with the technology and make the choice to buy an electric vehicle."

"With the mandates they are putting in place, they are forcing the consumer to buy something that they don't want," said Tom Maoli — one of the letter's signatories and the founder of New Jersey-based auto group Celebrity Motor Cars which operates multiple dealerships — in an interview with Fox News Digital. "Consumers are not buying into the electric vehicle market right now because the infrastructure is not there, they're concerned about the range and it's 20 to 30% higher to buy the vehicle."

"Even with the incentives that the manufacturers are offering, and that the government is offering, consumers just don't want to buy it," he continued. "

Gas-powered cars represented 93% of all new car sales in 2022, according to a report from the Alliance for Automotive Innovation.










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Old 11-30-2023, 5:58pm   #2
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Not even news, Biden is ignoring the SCOTUS and still handing out student loan bailouts and installed an executive into the Dept of Energy that he couldn't get confirmed by Congress - so anybody think a bunch of car dealers will make him give a shit ?
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Electric vehicles 'are stacking up on our lots,' car dealers write to Biden

A coalition of more than 3,000 auto dealers nationwide is sending an open letter to President Biden, calling on him to "tap the brakes" on his administration's aggressive electric vehicle (EV) push.

The coalition — which includes dealers located in all 50 states and who collectively sell every major car brand — is taking particular aim at the Biden administration's tailpipe emissions standards released earlier this year which are the most aggressive federal regulations of their kind ever issued. Under the regulations proposed by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), the majority of new vehicle purchases will be electric within a decade.

"The reality, however, is that electric vehicle demand today is not keeping up with the large influx of BEVs [battery electric vehicles] arriving at our dealerships prompted by the current regulations. BEVs are stacking up on our lots."

Today, the supply of unsold BEVs is surging, as they are not selling nearly as fast as they are arriving at our dealerships -- even with deep price cuts, manufacturer incentives, and generous government incentives."

They added that, while the goals of the EPA regulations are admirable, they are also "unrealistic based on current and forecasted customer demand." The dealers further noted that the best indicator of customer demand in the auto marketplace is how EVs are stacking up in their lots.
"WAAAAAH - we ****ed people over on EVs (and every other type of vehicle) during the pandemic, and now customers don't want to buy cars from us anymore."

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Yet most people I know IRL, and several here, blame any/all economic problems on companies.

IT'S THE GOVERNMENT, STUPID. Government interference in the push/pull of supply and demand always ****s everything up.

Karl Marx, with a lot of help from our propaganda press and Marxist ideology being taught in schools and colleges, is winning. He hated capitalism (i.e. economic liberty) and blamed it for all the world's problems. Only government interference could fix it.

And here we are, 170 years later and a pile of murdered bodies of at least 100 million people, still not getting at the root of the problem.
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Old 11-30-2023, 9:42pm   #6
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"WAAAAAH - we ****ed people over on EVs (and every other type of vehicle) during the pandemic, and now customers don't want to buy cars from us anymore."

I remember the rolling blackouts, newscum even recommended charging vehicles less. I don't have a problem with EV's, competition is great as is new technology, it's the forcing it on us because they want it that really pisses me the **** off.
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They're treading in thin ice thinking they can negotiate with liberals. Pretty sure oblaimey unalived more auto-dealers than that with the stroke of a pen.
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Old 11-30-2023, 10:02pm   #8
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I don't have a problem with EV's, competition is great as is new technology, it's the forcing it on us because they want it that really pisses me the **** off.
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Old 11-30-2023, 10:22pm   #9
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I don't have a problem with EV's, competition is great as is new technology, it's the forcing it on us because they want it that really pisses me the **** off.
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Old 11-30-2023, 11:53pm   #10
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The problem with the Tesla's and some can smoke a corvette and the GM homers don't like that. Plus Tesla's are not cheap, starting at 40k plus. I like gas cars. But sooner or later most cars will be electric except the classic cars. I'am trying to figure out what years will they say are classic cars. I figure with Porsche Jaguar, and Ferrari they may go up to the early 70's. Probably the same with Corvettes considering any Corvette past 1972 isn't worth much.
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I remember the rolling blackouts, newscum even recommended charging vehicles less. I don't have a problem with EV's, competition is great as is new technology, it's the forcing it on us because they want it that really pisses me the **** off.
Pretty much....

Possibly if they went with hybrid requirements first and gave the companies time to perfect it and lower costs it'd go over better... That and all our eggs wouldn't be in one basket.

But really the issue I have is all of us have to pay for the EVs charging.
They keep pushing oh its like the highways or water supplies so it benefits everyone.. Wrong.
Electricity needs will skyrocket and cost us all a fortune regardless of owning an ev or not.
Our power provider Duke has already said we the customer pay 100% of up upgrades for "green energy" including stations upgraded and infrastructure. We can except doubling of rates in a couple of years.

I also have nothing against an ev... Just the shit show being forced onto us.
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Pretty much....

Possibly if they went with hybrid requirements first and gave the companies time to perfect it and lower costs it'd go over better... That and all our eggs wouldn't be in one basket.

But really the issue I have is all of us have to pay for the EVs charging.
They keep pushing oh its like the highways or water supplies so it benefits everyone.. Wrong.
Electricity needs will skyrocket and cost us all a fortune regardless of owning an ev or not.
Our power provider Duke has already said we the customer pay 100% of up upgrades for "green energy" including stations upgraded and infrastructure. We can except doubling of rates in a couple of years.

I also have nothing against an ev... Just the shit show being forced onto us.
You can expect the rates to double, but I doubt that you can except them.
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"WAAAAAH - we ****ed people over on EVs (and every other type of vehicle) during the pandemic, and now customers don't want to buy cars from us anymore."
They don't seem to have any problem selling gas or diesel vehicles so retribution for pandemic prices really has nothing to do with it. This is the very predictable outcome of government tampering with markets.
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You can expect the rates to double, but I doubt that you can except them.
It's making me take a look at power usage as a 500 dollare electric bill won't be an easy nugget to cover when older and retired.
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Old 12-01-2023, 10:07am   #15
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The problem with the Tesla's and some can smoke a corvette and the GM homers don't like that. Plus Tesla's are not cheap, starting at 40k plus. I like gas cars. But sooner or later most cars will be electric except the classic cars. I'am trying to figure out what years will they say are classic cars. I figure with Porsche Jaguar, and Ferrari they may go up to the early 70's. Probably the same with Corvettes considering any Corvette past 1972 isn't worth much.


Just wait for the Tesla Model 2. That should be announced soon and rumor has it that it will be priced around $25k
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Just wait for the Tesla Model 2. That should be announced soon and rumor has it that it will be priced around $25k
Just like the Model 3 that was supposed to be under $30k or the truck under $40k…
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