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Old 03-08-2012, 9:46am   #22
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Originally Posted by G8rDMD View Post
I agree oil is finite and not a viable fuel source for the future. The US and Canada have enough oil to sustain North America for at least a century, I'd imagine. So why not use those sources and decrease reliance on foreign oil? You can't just SAY that oil is the energy of the past and ignore present economic crunches as gas sores. Get a fcuking clue and drill in the fcuking Gulf. Refine our own damn oil while giving car companies and energy companies and any individual who wants, huge incentives to develop alternatives. NOW is not the time to mandate this shit. NOW is the time to rescue the fcucking economy--and lowering fuel and, as a by product, food prices is a great way to jump start the failing heartbeat of the American nation. NOW is not the damn time to protect the spotted woodsy turtle dove woodpecker by banning drilling. But then again, I guess we can just let the economy tank, America will disappear and nature can have its land back.

Of course oil is the fuel of the past. But it's also the fuel of the present and near future. Obama just wants to say that so in 75 years the history books make him look smart when we're flying around all Jetson-like in electric hover cars
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I'll make this real simple for ya.
This country has always led the world in innovation and technology during times of economic prosperity. The first priority is to get the economy back on track. Obummer isn't going to do it with $5/ gal gas. We need to produce all the oil we can here to undercut foreign oil prices, provide cheap energy to fuel economic growth, which fuels innovation. Get us back to where we were during the heyday of the space program in the 60's, and the rest will take care of itself. I grew up in the 50's and 60's, and never have we been so productive and innovative. Economic prosperity is the key to reaching all our goals. The "progressives" are destroying this country by trying to turn it into a socialist workers' paradise. We will be Like Greece very soon if they are not stopped.
And I'll make it simple for you.

Your solution will not work unless the government nationalized the oil fields.

Oil is sold on the world markets. There is no guarantee that oil pulled from Canada or even here is going to stay here. Why do you think they want that pipeline going to the gulf instead of the refineries in Oklahoma or central Texas? So it can be sold on the world markets. They want an easy way to move their product to where they will get the highest prices. Those commercials you see on Fox News talking about increasing production here wouldn't do jack shit for prices. Notice how they never talk about that?

We as a country have reduced our demand for gasoline so much that we actually export about half a million barrels of gasoline a day. How is drilling more or building a pipeline going to decrease what we spend on gas when we have such an excess supply of it?

And history has shown to keep gas prices high, all OPEC has to do is cut supply. So that means no matter how much more oil we pull from the ground here, all they have to do is cut production and the prices stay the same.

There are only two absolute solutions that will drop gas prices and both of them would make conservatives shit their pants.

1) Nationalize the oil fields and set prices for the oil pulled from the ground. The United states is one of the few oil producing countries that hasn't nationalized its oil fields. All of the OPEC countries along with Mexico, Russia and even Canada have. That is why gasoline is less than a dollar a gallon in Iraq and Venezuela. Only 7% of the world's estimated oil and gas reserves are in countries that allow private international companies free rein.

2) Make speculating on oil illegal.

There are no other "fixes" the government can implement.

Obama doesn't have a damn thing to do with oil prices. Its your guys that are pushing for war with Iran that destabilizes the oil markets. Its your guys that want to keep oil speculating legal. And its your guys that would never support the nationalization of our country's natural resources.

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