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DAB 09-24-2018 11:52am

Why would any man meet with a woman alone?
 
given the current social status, why would any sane man meet with a woman who is not his wife? there is nothing to gain, everything to lose.

alone for 5 minutes to discuss the latest project for Skynet? you tell her she's doing great, suggest a few phone calls to make, think the meeting is over.

a few days/weeks/months/years pass, she decides to make your life hell, finds the meeting notes in her calendar, and poof, she has an exact time and place where you were inappropriate with her briefly.

of course, you deny it, but who will believe a guy now? clean out your desk, you are done. maybe you can stay married.

sad.

just when women started to be invited into the "good old boys club", that door is going to shut fast. sorry ladies, not worth the risk.

Sea Six 09-24-2018 12:24pm

I've actually thought about this lately.

Trouble is, anyone can accuse you. Even a man.

MrPeabody 09-24-2018 12:36pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sea Six (Post 1644005)
I've actually thought about this lately.

Trouble is, anyone can accuse you. Even a man.

I'm just glad my dogs can't talk.:leaving:

DAB 09-24-2018 12:57pm

a long time ago, i worked with a lady engineer. we went to a few social activities.

would not do that today.

want to talk, let's have lunch in the cafeteria today.

no way i'd be alone with a woman who was not my wife.

even if i did nothing, i'm still out $$$$ defending myself.

MrPeabody 09-24-2018 1:14pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sea Six (Post 1644005)
I've actually thought about this lately.

Trouble is, anyone can accuse you. Even a man.

I'm cancelling my lunch with Knooger.:yesnod:

DAB 09-24-2018 1:14pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrPeabody (Post 1644008)
I'm cancelling my lunch with Knooger.:yesnod:

nah, you'll be fine. just don't drop anything, or go "bahhhh".

04 commemorative 09-24-2018 1:16pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAB (Post 1644007)
a long time ago, i worked with a lady engineer. we went to a few social activities.

would not do that today.

want to talk, let's have lunch in the cafeteria today.

no way i'd be alone with a woman who was not my wife.

even if i did nothing, i'm still out $$$$ defending myself.

:iagree:
Anyone can accuse anyone of anything.....then your life is ruined and your out a ton of $ and that's all anyone remembers even if cleared.....:willy:

DAB 09-24-2018 1:30pm

i've been to a bar precisely 3 times in my life. little dive in GA, where i played pool a few times. didn't have anything to drink.

but....if i was at a bar, sipping my 7-up, and some lady sat by me and cooed "buy me a drink?" "sorry, not tonight"

what is the upside?

Broken Wind 09-24-2018 1:54pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by 04 commemorative (Post 1644010)
:iagree:
Anyone can accuse anyone of anything.....then your life is ruined and your out a ton of $ and that's all anyone remembers even if cleared.....:willy:

If that were to occur, I'd go postal on everyone responsible. Blood would flow.

MrPeabody 09-24-2018 2:25pm

Seriously, most of my working life, I've worked for small family owned businesses with less than a dozen employees. Mostly men, and usually a few women in the office and sometimes in the shop. I used to tell them the day I was hired I would never agree to be alone in the building with a woman. They would ask "Have you had a problem before?" and I would say no, because that's always been my policy. They knew what I meant and never argued my point. This is nothing new, I've been working under those rules since the 70s.:yesnod:

Mike Mercury 09-24-2018 3:48pm

if Snide were female:














https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b9/5a...6540b3f480.jpg

04 commemorative 09-24-2018 3:58pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broken Wind (Post 1644013)
If that were to occur, I'd go postal on everyone responsible. Blood would flow.

Happens everyday.....and then you would be in jail.....lose lose

Broken Wind 09-24-2018 8:18pm

Some things are worth going to jail over.

04 commemorative 09-24-2018 8:37pm

If someone hurt my kids or wife yes

chinaski 09-24-2018 9:12pm

The problem with all of this is the fact that there is no due process.

It's not even guilty until proven innocent. A man is accused and he is automatically destroyed personally and professionally. Even if they are proven to be innocent, 'oh well'. It's scary.

I have dated women in the past that I know would have no problem destroying me if they got a wild hair up their ass to do so, and I didn't wrong them in any way...they just turned out to be certifiably nuts. :island14:

dwjz06 09-25-2018 6:55am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broken Wind (Post 1644050)
Some things are worth going to jail over.

No way. The ****ing you get is not worth the ****ing you are going to get.

Mike Mercury 09-25-2018 7:10am

http://rollinghillsdrivingrange.com/...537a7d7a37.jpg


https://sayingimages.com/wp-content/...ating-meme.jpg


https://sayingimages.com/wp-content/...ating-meme.jpg

Dixievet 09-25-2018 7:58am

And during the last elections all of the Democrats made fun of Pence for stating this exact same fact.

:yesnod:

Sea Six 09-25-2018 8:18am

Quote:

Originally Posted by chinaski (Post 1644052)
The problem with all of this is the fact that there is no due process.

It's not even guilty until proven innocent. A man is accused and he is automatically destroyed personally and professionally. Even if they are proven to be innocent, 'oh well'. It's scary.

I have dated women in the past that I know would have no problem destroying me if they got a wild hair up their ass to do so, and I didn't wrong them in any way...they just turned out to be certifiably nuts. :island14:

https://i.imgur.com/kFiQd6Q.jpg

Sea Six 09-25-2018 8:20am

https://i.imgur.com/xf2xbaY.jpg

Sea Six 09-25-2018 8:21am

https://i.imgur.com/SWrCE9U.jpg

bsmith 09-25-2018 11:38am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sea Six (Post 1644005)
I've actually thought about this lately.

Trouble is, anyone can accuse you. Even a man.

About 20 years ago I remember being spooked after watching the movie "Wild Things"
I've avoided putting myself in certain situations since that day.
Serious.

VatorMan 09-25-2018 12:54pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsmith (Post 1644097)
About 20 years ago I remember being spooked after watching the movie "Wild Things"
I've avoided putting myself in certain situations since that day.
Serious.

I'm so compromised I wouldn't run for dogcatcher. However, I take issue that you can hold something over someone's head like the Sword of Damocles.

DAB 09-25-2018 1:07pm

wondering how many men out there are trying to recall all or some of their 'one night stands', and wondering if any of those women will show up in their future to throw a wrench in their career plans?

NCC-1701 09-25-2018 1:24pm

This is why the MGTOW sites are out of control with men joining. The horror stories that guys go through are amazing.

DAB 09-25-2018 1:41pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by NCC-1701 (Post 1644105)
This is why the MGTOW sites are out of control with men joining. The horror stories that guys go through are amazing.

???

RedLS1GTO 09-25-2018 1:56pm

If the premise is that someone is going to lie to ruin you, what does it matter if you meet with them or not?

You can't prove that a meeting didn't happen any more than you can prove that you didn't do whatever else you are being accused of. :shrug:

Mike Mercury 09-25-2018 2:23pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAB (Post 1644108)
???


DAB 09-25-2018 3:06pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Mercury (Post 1644113)

learn something everyday. :DAB:

Strats-N-Vettes 09-26-2018 8:32am

Think about it; as teen remember trying to get to "2nd base"?
How about third or a home run?

Here's the real kicker:
When you were turned down at trying to get to 2nd base (unclipping bra IIRC); did you immediately give up, or did you try again?

Did you slow dance at homecoming only have her move your hand up off her butt because it was too low?

Strats-N-Vettes 09-26-2018 8:35am

When an old joke becomes reality:


A couple went on vacation to a resort up north. The husband liked to fish, and the wife liked to read.

One morning the husband came back from fishing after getting up really early that morning and took a nap.
While he slept, the wife decided to take the boat out. She was not familiar with the lake, so she rowed out and anchored the boat, and started reading her book.


Along comes the Game Warden in his boat, pulls up alongside the woman's boat and asks her what she's doing?

She says, "Reading my book."

The Game Warden tells her she is in a restricted fishing area. She explains that she's not fishing.

To which he replied, "But you have all this equipment. I will have to take you in and write you up!"

Angry that the warden was being so unreasonable, the lady told the warden, "If you do that, I will charge you with rape."

The warden, shocked by her statement, replied, "But I didn't even touch you."

To which the lady replied, "Yeah, but you have all the equipment!"

6spdC6 09-26-2018 9:01am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strats-N-Vettes (Post 1644184)
Think about it; as teen remember trying to get to "2nd base"?
How about third or a home run?

Here's the real kicker:
When you were turned down at trying to get to 2nd base (unclipping bra IIRC); did you immediately give up, or did you try again?


Did you slow dance at homecoming only have her move your hand up off her butt because it was too low?

I found out that on many occasions she will guard her boobs expecting that is where you going to try. Many times I did real good by going direct to touching the "promised land" without making a boob move. Much better if she is wearing a dress Vs pants if you go that route.:D

FWIW, I'm now almost 50 years married so that advice is a bit dated, but might still be valid!

Strats-N-Vettes 09-26-2018 9:05am

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6spdC6 (Post 1644186)
I found out that on many occasions she will guard her boobs expecting that is where you going to try. Many times I did real good by going direct to touching the "promised land" without making a boob move. Much better if she is wearing a dress Vs pants if you go that route.:D

FWIW, I'm now almost 50 years married so that advice is a bit dated, but might still be valid!



:funnier:
In those days the guarded boobs may have had a "filler".

Will 09-26-2018 10:26am

Because I don't want any witnesses.

Hope this helps OP.

Cybercowboy 09-26-2018 1:34pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strats-N-Vettes (Post 1644184)
Think about it; as teen remember trying to get to "2nd base"?
How about third or a home run?

Here's the real kicker:
When you were turned down at trying to get to 2nd base (unclipping bra IIRC); did you immediately give up, or did you try again?

Did you slow dance at homecoming only have her move your hand up off her butt because it was too low?

Dude, I was so clueless to signals when I was a teen that literally the first time I got to any base beyond first was when the girl snuck into my bed in the middle of the night, she was staying overnight with my sisters. She did this on several occasions, each time we'd do a little more. Finally we did the deed. Prior to this happening I had zero idea she even liked me. Very cute girl, 10/10 would do again even though she eventually cheated on me.

DAB 09-26-2018 1:57pm

in HS and college, women ignored me. :shrug:

MrPeabody 09-26-2018 2:19pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAB (Post 1644191)
in HS and college, women ignored me. :shrug:

Me too. Ain't we lucky?:cert:

MrPeabody 09-26-2018 2:20pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Will (Post 1644189)
Because I don't want any witnesses.

Hope this helps OP.

Creepy post of the day, right there.:yesnod:

DAB 09-26-2018 2:23pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrPeabody (Post 1644194)
Creepy post of the day, right there.:yesnod:

many years ago, i regularly attended a church group for young singles (21-30ish was the target group), and this was in the DC area, and many of the people there worked somewhere for the .gov. many on the Hill for various congress critters.

so i'd meet someone new to me, say hi, and the first question out of their mouth would be "so what do you do?" "i work for an engineering company" "well, it was nice meeting you" and they'd be gone.

i couldn't help them in their career, as i didn't work for a congress critter, and therefore, it wasn't worth their time talking to me.

happened many times.

Thomas 09-26-2018 2:36pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedLS1GTO (Post 1644110)
If the premise is that someone is going to lie to ruin you, what does it matter if you meet with them or not?

You can't prove that a meeting didn't happen any more than you can prove that you didn't do whatever else you are being accused of. :shrug:

It matters because if you did meet them there's some small element of truth to the fabricated story. Making something up is risky. You may be easy to easily prove your whereabouts when the alleged 'assault' took place.

MrPeabody 09-26-2018 4:33pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas (Post 1644196)
It matters because if you did meet them there's some small element of truth to the fabricated story. Making something up is risky. You may be easy to easily prove your whereabouts when the alleged 'assault' took place.

That's why it's very interesting that none of the Kavanaugh accusers name a specific date or location. It could be just because it happened so long ago and everyone was too drunk. Hell, I was at high school parties where I couldn't tell you what year it happened.

Or not.

DAB 09-26-2018 4:57pm

in a few years she can claim that she was groped:

https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/3K...2_16x9_992.jpg

no, i have no idea who these people are. just that photo proof exists that he touched her bare skin.

:rolleyes:

tjfontaine 09-26-2018 5:22pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strats-N-Vettes (Post 1644184)
Think about it; as teen remember trying to get to "2nd base"?
How about third or a home run?

Here's the real kicker:
When you were turned down at trying to get to 2nd base (unclipping bra IIRC); did you immediately give up, or did you try again?

Did you slow dance at homecoming only have her move your hand up off her butt because it was too low?

I was actually talking to my wife about this very thing. Back then, we were just being guys and trying to get some action. I never forced myself on anyone and once someone said no or pushed me off I backed off. Would I be skewered like Judge Kavanaugh nowadays ? Obviously!

I had two different girls that were very forceful with me when I wasn't really looking for action ... but they pressed hard and got their way. Would I come out of the woodwork now and claim abuse by them if they were running for something? NFW!

DAB 09-26-2018 5:29pm

all these weasels now want more FBI background checks....the same organization that apparently couldn't uncover these accusers in 6 previous tries.

call the vote.

JRD77VET 09-26-2018 6:00pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAB (Post 1644202)
all these weasels now want more FBI background checks....the same organization that apparently couldn't uncover these accusers in 6 previous tries.

call the vote.

Let's back up to the beginning.

Ms Ford is doing this strictly for political reasons. When she decided to move forward with her allegations, whom did she go forward to with the information?

Not the Police

Not the FBI

She went directly to Democratic Party

Nothing but mudslinging :seeya:

bsmith 09-26-2018 6:41pm

They need to release the names of politicians that have had these kinds of situations that went away because of taxpayer funded settlements.

bill_daniels 09-26-2018 7:35pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRD77VET (Post 1644203)
Let's back up to the beginning.

Ms Ford is doing this strictly for political reasons. When she decided to move forward with her allegations, whom did she go forward to with the information?

Not the Police

Not the FBI

She went directly to Democratic Party

Nothing but mudslinging :seeya:

Ford was so traumatized by this fictitious assault that she cannot fly....well, except for her cross country trip to MD to take a polygraph.....in August, 2018

https://i.redd.it/23chqwfvxmo11.png

ToolMaker 09-28-2018 9:01am

Quote:

Originally Posted by bill_daniels (Post 1644218)
Ford was so traumatized by this fictitious assault that she cannot fly....well, except for her cross country trip to MD to take a polygraph.....in August, 2018

https://i.redd.it/23chqwfvxmo11.png

Yep, and she stayed in the area. She was not in CA when she gave the excuse!

This was discussed on a FOX show last night. I think it was Ingraham.

DAB 05-17-2019 5:06pm

well, i called that one last year!

https://nypost.com/2019/05/17/men-ar...-us-all-study/

for many men of means and status, it's just not worth the risk.

Quote:

Men are scared of women now.

LeanIn.org and SurveyMonkey’s new #MentorHer poll reveals Friday that 60% of male managers report feeling “too nervous” about being accused of harassment to interact with women in “common workplace” activities such as mentoring, socializing and one-on-one meetings.

That’s a 32% spike from 2018, with an additional 36% of men saying they now actively avoid women in junior-level positions — effectively chopping down their shot at climbing the corporate ladder.

“The vast majority of managers and senior leaders are men,” says Sheryl Sandberg, Facebook COO, SurveyMonkey board member and founder of LeanIn.Org, in a statement. “If they are reluctant even to meet one-on-one with women, there’s no way women can get an equal shot at proving themselves.”

Widening the gender gap is actually an abuse of power, she says.

“We’re in a bad place — no one’s ever gotten promoted without a one-on-one meeting, I feel confident in saying that,” Sandberg tells “CBS This Morning” host Gayle King Friday. “Senior men right now are nine times more hesitant to travel with a woman and six times more likely to hesitate to have a work dinner.”

Women — and especially women of color — don’t get the same amount of mentoring as men, “which means we’re not getting an equal seat at the table,” Sandberg says. “It’s not enough to not harass us, you need to not ignore us, either.”

The study reports that the fear factor grew in concurrence with the rise of the massive #MeToo social media movement founded by activist Tarana Burke and fueled by a torrent of models and actresses accusing Harvey Weinstein and Bill Cosby of sexual harassment and assault.

In the last three years, scores of women — and some high-profile men, such as actors Terry Crews and Anthony Rapp — came forward to voice their experiences with harassment by people in positions of power.

Now Sandberg says it’s time for men to “step up” and “redefine what it means to be a good guy at work” — before it costs us all a whole lot of cold hard cash.

“There’s not a company in the world that can afford to leave talent on the sidelines because it’s female,” she says. “But that’s what will keep happening unless all of us — especially men — commit to doing better.”
:DAB::DAB:

JRD77VET 05-17-2019 5:59pm

So now they are complaining about the environment they created with broad accusations of what happened years and decades ago.

If the event was that trumatic or demeaning, why wait to report it?

You kicked the door hard and you made it slam shut.

boracayjohnny 05-17-2019 6:35pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRD77VET (Post 1670617)
So now they are complaining about the environment they created with broad accusations of what happened years and decades ago.

If the event was that trumatic or demeaning, why wait to report it?

You kicked the door hard and you made it slam shut.

A friend once said something that has stuck with me, "Consequences and repercussions".

JRD77VET 05-17-2019 6:46pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by boracayjohnny (Post 1670621)
A friend once said something that has stuck with me, "Consequences and repercussions".

:iagree:

Dan Dlabay 05-17-2019 6:51pm

I have always had the policy of never date or mess around with any girl at work.:cert:

Broken Wind 05-18-2019 5:42am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Dlabay (Post 1670624)
I have always had the policy of never date or mess around with any girl at work.:cert:

I had that policy too, but could never adhere to it.

Will 05-19-2019 8:10am

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAB (Post 1670615)
well, i called that one last year!

https://nypost.com/2019/05/17/men-ar...-us-all-study/

for many men of means and status, it's just not worth the risk.



:DAB::DAB:



Hire a woman at your own risk.

Be alone with a woman without witnesses at your own risk.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....4,203,200_.jpg


Great job feminists. :seasix:

SteelCityBlue 05-19-2019 9:02am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broken Wind (Post 1644013)
If that were to occur, I'd go postal on everyone responsible. Blood would flow.

We are going to see this happen more and more. Only the media will spin it as "disgruntled employee" or "fired" when someone walks in and ventilates human resources.


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