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mrvette 09-25-2022 11:06am

Options......stocks
 
https://secure.jeffclarktrader.com/?...T252010&page=1


I have heard the term 'options' before, but know nothing, so watt do you all think???

Big bob 09-25-2022 11:48am

Never trusted my money to anyone else. Bought land,gold,silver and lead. Lived below my means never borrowed any money. And retired comfortable in my 40s.

DAB 09-25-2022 11:55am

if making money was that easy, everyone would be doing it.

if you want to lose money faster than you can honestly earn it, then yes, trade options. calls, puts.....that's how Mr. Pelosi gambles Nancy's money, but he has a cushion. you don't.

yes, you can make a bunch of money trading options, but you can also lose way more than you have put into the deal so far. your losses can be unlimited.

and if he was really making $$$ trading options, do you think he'd tell you? hell no, he'd make his fortune and disappear.

dvarapala 09-25-2022 12:37pm

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Not watching that long ass video.

DAB 09-25-2022 12:59pm

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Originally Posted by dvarapala (Post 1993113)
Not watching that long ass video.

i didn't watch it either, but from the context, i knew what he was going to say.

"trade options, no risk, make lots of money"

Jobaka 09-25-2022 1:13pm

Reminds me of the old joke:

Q: How do you make a small fortune day trading?
A: Start with a large fortune.

DAB 09-25-2022 1:18pm

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Originally Posted by Jobaka (Post 1993125)
Reminds me of the old joke:

Q: How do you make a small fortune day trading?
A: Start with a large fortune.

and don't forget the wash rule, where by you end up paying taxes on money you never made....glorious! the IRS loves that rule.

dvarapala 09-25-2022 2:33pm

Oh look: 80% negative reviews on Jeffy boy.

https://www.trustpilot.com/review/jeffclarktrader.com

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Originally Posted by mrvette (Post 1993089)
watt do you all think???

I think the OP is about to get fleeced. :yesnod:

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Don't be fooled like I was!

I fell for the pitch but I'm glad I only paid around $200 for the 'starter' program. As soon as you watch the videos you start to get a bad feeling about this program. The current portfolio has 3 or 4 positions and most are down 25% or more. You will get bombarded by SPAM from other hucksters as well and the icing on the cake for me was when Jeff Clark started promoting Teeka Tiwari. This guy has been scamming people since 2000 with his ETF program. Glad I didn't sink more money into this. Be warned...DO NOT purchase anything from Jeff Clark or his associates. Study simple options strategies (covered calls, butterflies, condors, etc.) and don't over leverage and you will do much better for free!

Date of experience: September 07, 2022

DAB 09-25-2022 2:41pm

a sure way to get poor quickly is to try to get rich quickly.

Mick 09-25-2022 9:08pm

I've been trading options for cash since 1995 when I was 31 years old. I entered semi-retirement at 52, and full retirement at 57. Draw your own conclusions.

Craig 09-25-2022 9:41pm

I traded options for about a year a while back. Made and lost lots of money, it was miserable. And my tax return was about an inch thick. I worried for years that the IRS was going to show up at my door to bend me over. I'm not doing that again.

BayouCountry 09-25-2022 9:50pm

Invest in series I bonds and call it a day. If you are younger than AAPL when it hits 131 again. 2nd quarter of 2023 won’t be pretty.

Moond0ggie 09-25-2022 10:33pm

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If you have $270,000 to trade & you buy 1000 TSLA at $267= $267,000.
Then it goes up to $290. a few days later, you will have made $23,000.

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/TSLA....tsrc=fin-srch
Click on 6 month chart

You would have put into danger your $267k & looking at this chart, it would take awhile to recover your investment.

6spdC6 09-26-2022 7:07am

I have been doing the market for 40 years. That was a big reason I could take early retirement from my construction trade. I retired 5 years early with a reduced pension, my portfolio more than made up for it. Now retired for over 20 years!

Note I did not do options my thing is good dividend paying reasonably safe stocks. (I like medical REITs).

Mick 09-26-2022 7:24am

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Originally Posted by DAB (Post 1993127)
and don't forget the wash rule, where by you end up paying taxes on money you never made....glorious! the IRS loves that rule.

This is not true. A "wash sale" occurs when you sell a stock at a loss, buy it back in 30 days or less, but still try to take the loss as a tax deduction.

Example: If you buy 500 shares of XOM for $100 per share, and later the price drops to $50 per share, people used to sell the shares today to take a loss of 500 shares x $50 loss per share is $25,000, then buy the shares back the next day at say $50. They would still have exactly what they had before, 500 shares of XOM, but your "new" shares would have a tax basis of $50 per share.

The IRS said "no" to that, and calls that trade a "wash sale". They say you have exactly what you had before, so from a tax standpoint, you should have what you had before, so they disallow the loss, and recognize you as having a $100 per share basis in your "new" shares.

If you sell at $50, and the next day the price jumps to $60, so you get excited and buy back in, this is still a wash sale, but now your basis will be $110 per share.

DAB 09-26-2022 7:41am

Don’t put all your eggs in one basket.

dvarapala 09-26-2022 9:55am

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Originally Posted by DAB (Post 1993121)
i didn't watch it either, but from the context, i knew what he was going to say.

"trade options, no risk, make lots of money"

For the benefit of those of us who aren't smart enough to trade options, can someone explain how a 3-second option trade can result in immediate, spendable cash being deposited into his brokerage account? :waiting:

Frankie the Fink 09-26-2022 10:22am

Options are not for the novice, you can lose your ENTIRE investment and the fluctuations are gut-wrenching....and there are a LOT of vatiables involved...strike date, covered options, expiration, etc..

Remember SLY (Safety, Liquidity and Yield), if you want to blow $1,500 or so on option play or two you can give it a try, but do it as a lark, not to build a nest egg...

Finally, if some internet huckster is promising to make you a small fortune, make sure you start with a large fortune...

DAB 09-26-2022 12:15pm

losers? no way!!


dvarapala 09-26-2022 1:27pm

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Originally Posted by DAB (Post 1993507)

Heh!

I used to work with a guy who lost $60,000 day trading. Last I heard he still hasn't had the balls to tell his wife. :D


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