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JetMechZ16 04-01-2020 2:24pm

Navy orders evacuation of CVN-71
 
US Navy Evacuating Virus-Struck Aircraft Carrier Roosevelt

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"The spread of the disease is ongoing and accelerating," Captain Brett Crozier wrote in a letter to superiors.

"We are not at war. Sailors do not need to die," he pleaded.
I spent 5+ years of my life on this ship. I hope they get through this. :halfmast:

https://www.military.com/daily-news/...roosevelt.html

Rikki Z-06 04-01-2020 2:25pm

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Originally Posted by JetMechZ16 (Post 1748386)
US Navy Evacuating Virus-Struck Aircraft Carrier Roosevelt



I spent 5+ years of my life on this ship. I hope they get through this. :halfmast:

https://www.military.com/daily-news/...roosevelt.html

Same, USS Kinkaid DD965 89-94. :halfmast:

mrvette 04-01-2020 2:26pm

:sadangel::sadangel::sadangel::confused5:

I ASSume they been sending sickly guys off the ship as they get sick and test + for the crap.....NO??:confused5:

Bill 04-01-2020 2:28pm

This was the right move. You'd think we'd have some kind of back channel with our adversaries. Maybe this would be a good time for a world wide truce and cessation of hostilities for the duration? Of course, everyone has to agree to that, so that could be a problem.

mrvette 04-01-2020 2:38pm

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Originally Posted by bill_daniels (Post 1748393)
This was the right move. You'd think we'd have some kind of back channel with our adversaries. Maybe this would be a good time for a world wide truce and cessation of hostilities for the duration? Of course, everyone has to agree to that, so that could be a problem.

China, Iran/islam trust??? why bother to ask......

:confused5:

BOTY 04-01-2020 2:41pm

Get 'em outta there and take care of them. :yesnod:

boracayjohnny 04-01-2020 2:52pm

An amazing story:

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/cap...pens-plea-help


In an astounding plea for help, the captain of the nuclear aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt has urged top command of the US Navy to take drastic action after more than 100 sailors aboard the ship have been infected with the coronavirus.

More than a week ago it started with a handful of COVID-19 cases, which by the end of the week spiked to 36, causing the West Pacific-deployed carrier to dock at a naval station at Guam, ordering infected crew members out of the some 5,000 total into makeshift quarantine facilities, including a basketball gym hastily transformed for that purpose. The San Francisco Chronicle has obtained and published excerpts of an unprecedented plea for help written by the USS Roosevelt's Captain Brett Crozier to Pentagon leadership:

“This will require a political solution but it is the right thing to do,” wrote Capt. Brett Crozier, a Santa Rosa native, from Guam where his 1,092-foot carrier Theodore Roosevelt docked following a COVID-19 outbreak. “We are not at war. Sailors do not need to die. If we do not act now, we are failing to properly take care of our most trusted asset — our Sailors.”

In the letter Capt. Crozier warned that "Due to a warship's inherent limitations of space... the spread of the diseast is ongoing and accelerating." The SF Chronicle described that the letter was issued Monday as the captain fears there will be possible deaths among crew under his command if more resources aren't immediately allocated.

It is unclear as yet how many of the crew have been quarantined on land at Guam, and how many still remain aboard the docked carrier. But it appears the ongoing attempts at quarantine and containment are not going fast enough, with less than necessary resources employed. Previously General John Hyten, the vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said testing of the entire crew is expected to take a week minimum.

Crozier further urgently requested "compliant quarantine rooms" on shore in Guam for his entire crew "as soon as possible". He added, "Removing the majority of personnel from a deployed US nuclear carrier and isolating them for two weeks may seem like an extraordinary measure... this is a necessary risk."

He outlined specific dangers of large amounts of the crew remaining on board the ship as follows, according to the SF Chronicle:

The tight quarters on the carrier are “most conducive to spread,” he wrote, including large amounts of sailors in a confined space, shared sleeping quarters, restrooms, workspaces and computers, a common mess hall, meals cooked by exposed personnel, and movement constraints requiring communal contact with ladders and hatches.

The criticisms are aimed at the current strategy of merely moving the numbers of infected and immediate exposures off the ship, while increasing social distancing and disinfecting measures for the majority still on the ship, which he called "ineffective".

I've never seen anything like this.

Captain of Theodore Roosevelt pens a four-page letter pleading for resources, says the situation is rapidly spinning out of control as nearly 200 sailors test positive: https://t.co/OZuJwAQi46

— David B. Larter (@DavidLarter) March 31, 2020
And in perhaps the most unexpected and stunning section of the letter, the captain takes the unprecedented step of pointing out to top brass that focus on battle-readiness in this case will actually lead to potential significant loss of life:

If the Navy focuses on being battle ready, it will lead to “losses to the virus,” Crozier said. The second option, the captain recommended: “Achieve a COVID-free TR.” Methodically clean the ship, while isolating the crew in port with a massive amount of individualized lodging equipment.

The captain's recommendation is to instead keep only 10% of the crew on board at any given time in order to initiate deep sanitization procedures and crucially to operate the reactor plant, according to the letter.

No doubt the captain's letter was not meant to go public, especially given America's enemies and rivals are surely watching very closely. After all it took an 'invisible enemy' in the form of a virus infecting over 100 sailors to essentially knock out of commission an entire nuclear aircraft carrier.

Bill 04-01-2020 3:07pm

One thing is certain.....we can't be the only blue water navy having this issue.

dvarapala 04-01-2020 3:11pm

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Originally Posted by bill_daniels (Post 1748393)
Maybe this would be a good time for a world wide truce and cessation of hostilities for the duration? Of course, everyone has to agree to that, so that could be a problem.

BAD idea. :nono:

JetMechZ16 04-02-2020 9:24am

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Originally Posted by dvarapala (Post 1748405)
BAD idea. :nono:

This is more likely the time that our adversaries would jump at the chance to take a few strategic bases/islands. Without a Navy to deploy in response we may be hard pressed to take them back. Actually we can only hope that their forces are also in dire straits.

Bill 04-02-2020 9:13pm

Update:

The ship's captain gets fired for making the letter public.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com...-from-command/

I guess I can understand that, too. Right intention, wrong to do it publicly.

BOTY 04-02-2020 9:28pm

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Originally Posted by bill_daniels (Post 1749047)
Update:

The ship's captain gets fired for making the letter public.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com...-from-command/

I guess I can understand that, too. Right intention, wrong to do it publicly.

Loose lips..........

Cybercowboy 04-02-2020 9:29pm

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Originally Posted by bill_daniels (Post 1748400)
One thing is certain.....we can't be the only blue water navy having this issue.

I'm sure the Chinese Navy is fine. Same for the Italian Navy.

mrvette 04-03-2020 2:31am

Make NO mistake about it, this nation is under attack, by commie China.....flat out, deliberate and well planned, they did some cover story crap to their own people to deflect from this obvious fact in the international press......

the intent is to totally ruin north America......

anything else is bullshit......


:issues:

VatorMan 04-03-2020 4:12pm

This A hole and whatever Admiral A hole that recommended him need canned. My God, can you imagine WWII with people like this ?

snide 04-03-2020 4:15pm

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Originally Posted by VatorMan (Post 1749274)
This A hole and whatever Admiral A hole that recommended him need canned. My God, can you imagine WWII with people like this ?

Pretty sure there weren't any male vaginas on the ships back then.

benny42 04-03-2020 9:35pm

I think there is more to it than a leaked letter. I think the Admiral questioned the Captain's judgment for allowing shore leave in a hot-spot country and cut him loose for that.

boracayjohnny 04-03-2020 11:21pm

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Originally Posted by benny42 (Post 1749517)
I think there is more to it than a leaked letter. I think the Admiral questioned the Captain's judgment for allowing shore leave in a hot-spot country and cut him loose for that.

Publicly, the Captain is toast career wise. He'll soon be driving a desk in a wonderful basement.

Behind the scenes, I'm sure there's plenty for a fly on the wall.

JetMechZ16 04-06-2020 8:17am

Removal Of CVN 71 Captain May Have Violated Military Whistleblower Law

“The removal of Captain Crozier as commanding officer of the aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt may have violated whistleblower laws,” according to the national whistleblower law expert Stephen M. Kohn.

Captain Brett Crozier sent a strongly worded memorandum to the Navy Command requesting help for his crew. He explained that the aircraft carrier was “unable to comply with CDC protocols” to “prevent unnecessary deaths.” He warned: “If we do not act now, we are failing to properly take care of our most trusted asset – our sailors.” As of Friday morning, 137 members of Captain Crozier’s crew tested positive for COVID-19.

“Military law permitted Captain Crozier to inform a wide range of officials of the life-threatening conditions aboard the USS Theodore Roosevelt, including any ‘substantial and specific danger to public health or safety,’” according to Kohn. The whistleblower law also permitted Captain Crozier to report “gross mismanagement” committed by the U.S. Navy.

“Under legal precedent, the failure of the U.S. Navy to take immediate and effective steps to stop the spread of the Coronavirus on the USS Theodore Roosevelt could reasonably be viewed by Captain Crozier as ‘gross mismanagement.’ Furthermore, the life-threatening conditions on the carrier unquestionably constituted ‘substantial and specific danger to public health and safety. Consequently, Captain Crozier’s memorandum to the Navy was a protected disclosure under law,” Kohn said.



https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news...tleblower-law/

Bill 04-06-2020 6:29pm

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Originally Posted by benny42 (Post 1749517)
I think there is more to it than a leaked letter. I think the Admiral questioned the Captain's judgment for allowing shore leave in a hot-spot country and cut him loose for that.

Here's the SecNav's speech to the T.R. crew:

https://www.scribd.com/document/4552...qVQ#from_embed



More drama:

SecNav who gave speech to crew about the captain resigns.

https://kdvr.com/news/acting-navy-se...aptain-stupid/


WTF is going on with this fustercluck?


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