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Giraffe (He/Him) 05-12-2021 1:56pm

Sales Are Up. Way Up.
 
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Stopped at my H-D dealer for a new fob this afternoon. Inventory is non existent. Apparently sales are WAY up.

The sticker on the gray geezer glide? $42,495.

Datawiz 05-12-2021 2:00pm

Or, like most of the vacant car dealer lots, sales are way down because of supply chain issues preventing them from getting new products to sell.

Giraffe (He/Him) 05-12-2021 2:23pm

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Originally Posted by datawiz (Post 1880781)
Or, like most of the vacant car dealer lots, sales are way down because of supply chain issues preventing them from getting new products to sell.

Salesman tells me they can’t keep new or used bikes on the floor. Up 40% over the same quarter last year.

Jeff '79 05-12-2021 2:25pm

It's Biden's fault. :drivingskid:

Giraffe (He/Him) 05-12-2021 2:43pm

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Originally Posted by Jeff '79 (Post 1880789)
It's Biden's fault. :drivingskid:

Didn’t I see a picture of Joe riding in a Corvette a while back? Wouldn’t it be great, every time you get in your car it’s like a new ride?

Jeff '79 05-12-2021 2:47pm

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Originally Posted by Giraffe (Post 1880793)
Didn’t I see a picture of Joe riding in a Corvette a while back? Wouldn’t it be great, every time you get in your car it’s like a new ride?

Ya, he has one.:yesnod:

He's on this forum.
I think his handle is Bill Daniels.

Giraffe (He/Him) 05-12-2021 2:50pm

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Originally Posted by Jeff '79 (Post 1880795)
Ya, he has one.:yesnod:

He's on this forum.
I think his handle is Bill Daniels.

Say it ain’t so! Bill Biden? C’mon man. You wouldn’t shit a guy would you?

Jeff '79 05-12-2021 2:52pm

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Originally Posted by Giraffe (Post 1880797)
Say it ain’t so! Bill Biden? C’mon man. You wouldn’t shit a guy would you?

Converting Ultra Right Wing Trumpers through reverse psychology, one post at a time. :yesnod:

VITE1 05-12-2021 3:41pm

https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/...paydirt-again/

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Harley-Davidson Sales Finally Hit Paydirt Again
It's the motorcycle maker's best first-quarter performance in years.

Rich Duprey
(TMFCop)
Apr 23, 2021 at 12:15PM
Author Bio

Harley-Davidson (NYSE:HOG) finally turned in a good quarterly earnings report Monday as first-quarter U.S. motorcycle sales jumped to their highest level in four years and earnings per share nearly quadrupled.

The gains follow a change in when the bike maker introduces its new models, from late summer to early in the calendar year, to coincide with when bike riders are most interested in buying, and suggests the "Rewire" roadmap CEO Jochen Zeitz has laid out for turning the company around is gaining traction.

Harley-Davidson Pan America adventure touring motorcycle
THE NEW PAN AMERICA 1250 ADVENTURE TOURING MOTORCYCLE. IMAGE SOURCE: HARLEY-DAVIDSON.

A broad-based recovery
Revenue of $1.4 billion in the first quarter was up 10% year over year as motorcycle segment revenue rose 12% from 2020 on the back of strong demand for Harley's touring bikes. That's also without the full benefit of the introduction of its first adventure touring bike, the Pan America 1250, which was unveiled in February.

Zeitz has a vision for Harley as a somewhat smaller, more focused motorcycle company aligned with its dealer interests that also caters to its core customer while exploring new markets with growth potential. The LiveWire electric motorcycle is one such market, adventure touring another.

But former CEO Matt Levatich's plan to all but abandon the U.S. market in favor of international growth has been thrown overboard. International growth is still important, but the number of markets the company will have a presence in has been narrowed, with the least profitable ones rejected.

That change showed up in Harley's results as shipments to foreign markets were down precipitously, but they were much more profitable. The commitment to the U.S. is paying off, too, as Harley sold over 7,250 more motorcycles this quarter than a year ago, a 31% increase from last year.

Pointing to the realignment of Harley's priorities, which include making sure its incentives are on the same page as its dealers, Zeitz said, "We can see the initial signs of consumer excitement and optimism returning and I am confident Harley-Davidson in 2021 is a significantly leaner, faster, and more efficient organization."

Trade war redux
Unfortunately a wrench was thrown into the machinery after European regulators announced Harley motorcycles will suffer from dramatically higher tariff rates that were a result of the trade war that began in 2018.

The EU's Economic Ministry in Belgium notified the bike maker it will have to pay a 56% total tariff on its motorcycles regardless of where they're built beginning June 1. Previously, only bikes imported from the U.S. were subject to a stiff tariff (31%), which raised the cost of each bike by about $2,200, while motorcycles from Harley's other global plants only had to pay 6%. Harley had been able to avoid some of the pain associated with the trade spat by moving production of bikes for the European market to its plants in Brazil, India, Australia, and Thailand.

Now the trade ministers have determined all of Harley's motorcycles will be covered by a new, higher tariff.

The bike maker is appealing the ruling, but bike sales in Europe, which had been its second-biggest market before the pandemic, could very well plummet further.

Conversely, the global coronavirus outbreak showed Harley how it can live without Europe for the most part. First-quarter sales amounted to just 4,900 bikes, a 36% year-over-year decline, and 15% fewer than the 5,800 it sold in the Asia Pacific region.

Time will tell
Despite the overall good numbers, Harley-Davidson still needs to prove this isn't a one-off effort, as there was an obvious benefit from the stimulus checks that hit bank accounts in March, which the bike maker ran promotions around.

It needs to show the demand for its high-end motorcycles remains when consumers don't have the benefit of being artificially incentivized to spend. Second-quarter results will begin to hint at whether the turnaround is real, but it's a welcome reprieve that Harley is once again reporting real growth.

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Grey Ghost 05-12-2021 3:46pm

I do like HD's new 'classic' or whatever they call it line. There was a photo of an Electra Glide....you guessed it....in blue with white bags and fairing.

Bill 05-12-2021 3:58pm

Looks like a lot of touring bikes. Any Springer Softtails? Those were always my favorite.

Dan47 05-12-2021 4:08pm

I like Harleys, not performance orientated but many models are great for touring and customizing them is fun. But I think it's possible this improvement probably has a lot to do with shutting down the economy and the travel industry in particular? Wife and I haven't travelled since this mask nonsense started.

NFW I'd pay forty grand for a Harley. That's nuts. Must be a CVO but I always thought it was nuts to spend thirty grand on them before this economic nonsense. Assets like this and cars are going to be on sale at some point soon, IMO. No reason for the Fed to bail lenders on this type of stuff.

Datawiz 05-12-2021 4:49pm

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Originally Posted by Giraffe (Post 1880788)
Salesman tells me they can’t keep new or used bikes on the floor. Up 40% over the same quarter last year.

Last year was COVID. Year over year is meaningless. If they sold 10% of normal last year, a 40% rise over last year means you're still way behind the 8-ball. :seasix:

Giraffe (He/Him) 05-12-2021 5:09pm

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Originally Posted by datawiz (Post 1880824)
Last year was COVID. Year over year is meaningless. If they sold 10% of normal last year, a 40% rise over last year means you're still way behind the 8-ball. :seasix:

Calm your 85 monitor four thousand dollar a bottle booze ass down. I'm just repeating what the salesman told me.

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Originally Posted by bill_daniels (Post 1880814)
Looks like a lot of touring bikes. Any Springer Softtails? Those were always my favorite.

You can't buy a Springer Softail in 2021.

Datawiz 05-12-2021 5:10pm

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Originally Posted by Giraffe (Post 1880825)
Calm your 85 monitor four thousand dollar a bottle booze ass down. I'm just repeating what the salesman told me.


You can't buy a Springer Softail in 2021.

Yeah, what a Salesman says is gold. :rofl::rofl::rofl: What you just said confirms supply chain issues.

And for the record, this is just a gentle banter reply. No offense intended. :cert:

Oh, and...
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Originally Posted by Snide
You forgot the comma after the word monitor.


Giraffe (He/Him) 05-12-2021 5:22pm

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Originally Posted by datawiz (Post 1880826)
Yeah, what a Salesman says is gold. :rofl::rofl::rofl: What you just said confirms supply chain issues.

Keep digging.

One shovel at a time Mr. Cruise-In. :cert:

ZipZap 05-12-2021 5:24pm

Why did you stop?:sadangel:

Datawiz 05-12-2021 5:25pm

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Originally Posted by Giraffe (Post 1880831)
Keep digging.

One shovel at a time Mr. Cruise-In. :cert:

I bet your avatar is a huge hit with all of the female giraffes. :D

Giraffe (He/Him) 05-12-2021 5:27pm

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Originally Posted by datawiz (Post 1880834)
I bet your avatar is a huge hit with all of the female giraffes. :D

This is how bad it is.

:rofl:

Jeff '79 05-12-2021 5:27pm

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Originally Posted by datawiz (Post 1880834)
I bet your avatar is a huge hit with all of the female giraffes. :D

I enjoy your PWI banter!:seasix:


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