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Cobra4B 06-22-2010 12:53am

My PTA/TTA Z06 build up...
 
See here for the "I got it" thread - https://www.thevettebarn.com/forums/c...ort-lived.html

Started working on it a little last night removing some stuff under the hood, but put a good 4+ hours in tonight... got all of the interior out and wiring tidied up other than removing the glove box.

Battery surround removed, eventually all the AC and AIR pump stuff will be gone
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Washer fluid reservoir and lines/pump all removed. I removed the hood liner and underhood light, but didn't take any pics.
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Interior gutted
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Lots of parts... going to sell it all
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mariofromnewyork 06-22-2010 6:37am

What are you doing Friday or Saturday night I need to stop buy and go shoping?

Mario

Munch 06-22-2010 7:26am

Damn, you don't mess around.:cheers:

Cobra4B 06-22-2010 8:33am

Quote:

Originally Posted by mariofromnewyork (Post 39394)
What are you doing Friday or Saturday night I need to stop buy and go shoping?

Mario

PMed you back... I'll be in town this weekend so just call/text me. I'll proabably be painting the house and working on the car all week/weekend.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Munch (Post 39395)
Damn, you don't mess around.:cheers:

Nope... I want to car ready for the July NASA event which is in 1 month. Lots to do.

zz4vetteguy 06-22-2010 6:17pm

Gutted already...lol.

Once Mario has raided the garage, post up what ya got left in the F/S section. I may know someone who have a 2001 Mag Red Vert that may see something he needs. :leaving:

Cobra4B 06-23-2010 1:23am

Pulled the dash and center console structure and took out much of the HVAC system that I don't need. Prepping to pull the HVAC unit and remove the evaporator and heater core then put it back in to retain the defroster for early morning sessions when the glass wants to fog up. Also pulled the airbags, have to get a special wheel puller to get the wheel off.

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Started on the motor pulling the coilpacks, deleting the AIR system, and got the intake off.... it's rather dirty, but I guess that's what nearly 10 years and 120k does to a motor.

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Looks like one of the end tanks has a leak... time for a new radiator... the current radiator is very clogged with grass/debris and looks like it's never been cleaned. Since C5s are bottom breather it's a good idea to clean the radiator every couple of years.

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1TZSLO 06-23-2010 10:59am

PM sent about A/C Compressor

WKMCD 06-23-2010 11:58am

Coming along!!!

Cobra4B 06-23-2010 10:56pm

Cleaned up the engine, then removed the front bumper and deleted the horn and unneeded wiires, then yanked out the rest of the AIR pump assembly. Finished off by yanking the radiator, coolant tank, and fans.

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Air pump assembly... in case anyone's wondering it injects air into the exhaust manifold at startup to allow the cats to fire off more quickly for cold start emissions. Worth about 15 lbs.
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EBCM (Electric Brake Contrl Module) out and ready to be repaired... dealer wants $1200 for one of these.... but a guy online will fix them for $150... part of how I got the car so cheap... sellers thought they were looking at another $1500 or so to dump into the car.
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Running out of space...
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Some parts came in today... Sparco 353 wheel from OGRacing and 2 17x9.5 forged OEM Z06 wheels.
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Oh... I need to get teh AC crap out of the car but I need to evac the system.. does anyone do this? Any mobil HVAC people or is there a kit I can buy at a general auto parts store?

1TZSLO 06-23-2010 11:29pm

I just searched around for about 10 mins and well unless you tow it somewhere you might be outta luck without having a Mishap (hint) and it leaks. Unles you buy a sealed container to vacuum it out.

Cobra4B 06-24-2010 9:50am

Virginia Mobil Air Conditioning is going to meet me at my house today at lunch and evac the system for free... he said it was because I was actually trying to be environmentally conscious vs. just unhooking it. I'm sure it has a little to do with the fact that R134a is expensive and they can recycle/sell it, but nontheless I'm pretty stoked about that. I was expecting some sort of serice call fee.

pops98 06-24-2010 6:40pm

Looks like you know you way around the c-5. Keep those pics and maybe you can post them in reverse order , in order to show how to build one from the ground up.

Cobra4B 06-24-2010 11:04pm

Goodbye AC... horray for way more room...

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WKMCD 06-25-2010 5:48am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobra4B (Post 39551)
Air pump assembly... in case anyone's wondering it injects air into the exhaust manifold at startup to allow the cats to fire off more quickly for cold start emissions. Worth about 15 lbs.
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...6/DSCF4050.jpg

I relocated mine - to the dumpster. I figure it offsets the weight of the amps...:lolsmile:

Cobra4B 06-25-2010 8:20am

LOL... yeah I took it all out of my yellow car too. Even had Kooks headers w/o any air tubes at all... not cut off and welded... actually produced w/o air tubes :)

Cobra4B 07-01-2010 8:16am

Mini update... waiting on my parts order from GM Parts House to come in tomorrow before I can do much else, plus I've been finishing house painting this week due to family coming in town for vacation tomorrow.

Stock cast manifolds w/ heat shields
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Much better.... wire wheeled a little and sprayed with silver 2000 degree paint.
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Parts pile is growing
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Cobra4B 07-11-2010 9:13pm

Been on vacation all week, but worked on the car off/on and all day yesterday and today.

Pretty darned clean for 120k miles, car has obviously had regular oil changed with synthetic.
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Borrowed a crane dual valve spring compressor to change the springs out.
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Fresh 02-04 Z06 springs which are a little stiffer then the 01 spec springs. Also installed fresh rockers off a lower mileage car and lower mileage pushrods and rocker pedestals I had laying around.
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Got a low mileage H-pipe from a 2004 Z06. The 02-04 piece has 2 cats vs. 4 on the 2001. Wrapped the area that passes under the bell housing and the section that passes under the trans. Keeping heat off the bellhousing keeps the clutch hydraulics cooler so the pedal works properly throughout a session and the rear part keeps the trans cooler.
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Rear O2s plugged
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Whole thing
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LS2 timing chain, LS4 high-volume pump installed and crank drilled for ATI pin setup. Found a crack in the timing cover by the front main so will have to order a new one before getting it buttoned up and the new crank damper on.
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AIR pump block-offs installed
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Heat shields re-installed and manifolds back on the motor
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DRM track oil cooler kit came in... uses a Setrab 625 cooler.... pretty large
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Adapter block installed and lines run
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Cut up the dash and removed all unneeded HVAC ducting. Its setup to blow air out the center vent and the defroster only. I pulled the HVAC unit and removed the evap core and heater core
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Dash back in
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Thats all... back to waiting on parts.

mariofromnewyork 07-12-2010 1:15pm

Looks good so far!

Mario

Cobra4B 07-12-2010 2:09pm

Thanks man.... whenever you're back in town come by and I'll trade you your pushrods for that 02-04 airbox lid :)

Garb55 07-12-2010 8:00pm

Great Progress~https://www.thevettebarn.com/forums/i...ons/icon14.gifhttps://www.thevettebarn.com/forums/i...ons/icon14.gif

mariofromnewyork 07-13-2010 12:32am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobra4B (Post 41295)
Thanks man.... whenever you're back in town come by and I'll trade you your pushrods for that 02-04 airbox lid :)

Ill stop by Friday.

I have a 02 low milage Z cam we should throw that in and get you some more power.

Mario

Cobra4B 07-13-2010 8:21am

Nah... not worth it. The base circle on the '02-'04 Z06 cam is smaller so I'd need to futz w/ valvetrain geometry and lifter pre-load. The '02-'04 Z06 actually has slightly longer valvestems so they can both us the same pushrods and rockers etc.

Cobra4B 07-18-2010 10:33pm

Got the rear suspension all redone. Took it apart, lightly cleaned the spindles and a-arms, installed fresh hub/bearings with ARP studs, fresh 2004 Z06 shocks, fully deleted the parking brake assembly, installed the hardbar camber kit, and wrapped the lower balljoint and toe-rod end in DEI cool tape. I was able to use the speed sensor connector mount from the front hubs on the rear for a really clean parking brake delete. The spindle ducts going on the front require their removal anyway.

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mariofromnewyork 07-19-2010 6:07pm

Brian,

I love that hard bar kit. Can you tell Me how exactly that works?

Mario

Cobra4B 07-19-2010 7:25pm

The stock setup uses a bolt with an eccentric on one end. The hole in the cradle that is passes through is actually a slot. As you rotate the bolt the eccentric forces the A-arm in/out. The farther you move the lower A-arm out the more negative camber youll have. Plus the stock setup relies on clamp load to keep the setting in place. This hardbar kit uses the aluminum locating blocks to fix the camber in place... it cant move. If that didnt make much sense I can show you next time you stop by and its very easy to understand when you see it.

Its not really a good thing for a street car because you end up with about -2.5 degrees in the front and -1.5 rear which wouldnt be very nice to street tires.

mariofromnewyork 07-19-2010 8:55pm

Makes perfect sense and thanks for that. I Just bought one of their hard bars.

Did you find that ring I need it bad!

Mario

Cobra4B 07-19-2010 11:12pm

I know its here... its just in a box somewhere.

Dirty 119k rear brakes
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Cleaned them up, serviced the slide pins and installed Stoptech SS lines
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Carbotech XP10 pads (running XP12s up front)
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Hardbar Nordlock washers for the caliper bracket bolts... removes the need to use any loc-tite on them
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LR done
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RR done
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1TZSLO 07-19-2010 11:49pm

Nice job Brian, I will prolly get up with you this sat. if you are free.

Cobra4B 07-20-2010 12:08am

Ill be at VIR all weekend... leaving Thursday. Ill be back Sunday evening around 8ish most likely.

Cobra4B 07-20-2010 10:14am

Was commenting on another forum that there were no cost-effective 2-piece rotors available for the fronts... well found some... so ordered a pair of these w/ spare rotor rings. Will keep the front rotors off the car as super last ditch track spares and return the NAPA fronts I allready purchased.

http://www.knsbrakes.com/core/item/i...ckSLR-5067.jpg

Sneaks 07-20-2010 11:12am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobra4B (Post 41921)
Was commenting on another forum that there were no cost-effective 2-piece rotors available for the fronts... well found some... so ordered a pair of these w/ spare rotor rings. Will keep the front rotors off the car as super last ditch track spares and return the NAPA fronts I allready purchased.

http://www.knsbrakes.com/core/item/i...ckSLR-5067.jpg

Where'd you find them and cost?

Cobra4B 07-20-2010 11:25am

KNSBrakes out of Raleigh.... he has a thread going in the Auto-X/RR section of CF... PM him for the pricing :) Tell him I referred you as I'm trying to get him to sponsor me.

Cobra4B 07-20-2010 11:44pm

Got the new timing cover installed along with the new ATI Superdamper. Its a 10% underdriven unit w/o the AC pulley. Its pinned and I used an ARP crank bolt for a good dose of overkill. Had to put the rear wheels/tires on and the back on the ground so I could torque the crank bolt etc. At first I tired torqing it in 4th gear and the car wanted to move forward off the front stands when load was applied to the driveline, but 6th gear and me standing in front of the car did the trick.

I did hit one snag... I tried using my ATI pin kit drill fixture to center the timing cover per a LS1tech members recommendation. This allows you to go ahead and torque the timing cover down then install the balancer whenever you want to. This is more akin to the GM manual method where they have a special tool to hold the timing cover centered, then they install the front main w/ another special tool. The shadetree mechanic (i.e. LS1howto.com) method is to leave the timing cover loose when installing the balancer so it self-centers, then torque the cover bolts to spec.

Well the method of using the ATI drilling fixture worked great... problem was that when I removed it I couldnt get the pin in the hole as it was 1/2 blocked by the timing cover and front main! So I boogered up the front main trying to pull it out w/ the timing cover on the car and stopped and removed the timing cover... luckily I had a spare front main seal... cleaned it all up and re-did it all the LS1howto.com way that I have always used in the past.

Oh... and Im not sure if those hex head screws on the balancer will clear the steering rack... may have to call ATI tomorrow. My Superdamper on the yellow car didnt have them.

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17x9.5s on the rear (stock Z06 front wheels) w/ 275/40s on the ground for the first time.... they look pretty flush. I wasnt sure if Id want to run a spacer or not. Well see when I get the suspension all setup.

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Cobra4B 07-21-2010 10:20am

Well found out some info on my issues:

1. The reason the crank pin hole was too far back and blocked by the timing cover/front main was because I drilled it w/ the oil pump off the car. This allowed the drill fixture to seat on a little farther. Most people drill/pin with the oil pump still in place so the hole ends up for toward the end of the crank.

2. The balancer I bought is an older design. ATI sold it to ThunderRacking back in 6/2007 and the cap head bolts will hit the steering rack. Upated y-body balancers have all flush hardware that is countersunk. So I have to pull the balancer part (Nice thing about the ATI is it's 2 part so I don't have to mess with the crank bolt or front main) and send it to ATI to be updated. Will cost me $40 + shipping but oh well. I could go get regular hex headed bolts but they'd still be really close to the rack and could contact on really hard braking, so I'd rather not take any chances and have to re-redo it all.

1TZSLO 07-21-2010 5:03pm

I see the build is coming along well. I love seeing build in progress.
Are you gonna be free this weekend, maybe sunday? I leave monday for NC and I need to get up with you.

Cobra4B 07-21-2010 11:01pm

Im leaving for VIR tomorrow around 1:30 Ill be back Sunday evening. Nicole will be home all weekend. I guess you could just mail me a check or put one in my mailbox.

Cobra4B 07-25-2010 5:28pm

Installed some DEI heat shield on the tunnel plate and sides of the tunnel etc.

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Toque 07-26-2010 7:50am

Cool post ! :yesnod:

Cobra4B 07-28-2010 10:32pm

Front and rear tow hooks and rear T1 swaybar installed. The tow hooks are a hinged/folding design from Phoenix Performance. To install the rear you have to remove the bumper to replace the OEM muffler hanger bracket/bolt setup because the bolts are too short once the towhook is inserted between the hanger and rear frame bar. I fabbed up one to mimic the OEM piece so I could remove the muffler in the future if needed w/o having to take the bumper off again. If you just stuck longer bolts through theyd just spin if you ever needed to unnbolt the muffler hanger. The front bumper was allready off so it was a non-issue. Also, used some washers to lower the drivers side muffler hanger so I can allign the exhaust tips eventually.

Rear
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Rear Bar
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Front
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Toque 07-29-2010 8:35am

U got some Skilz Brian...:cheers:

Munch 07-29-2010 6:33pm

Looking good. :cheers:

How much longer till it's on the track?

Stormrider 07-29-2010 7:53pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobra4B (Post 42239)
Installed some DEI heat shield on the tunnel plate and sides of the tunnel etc.

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That tunnel plate looks familiar :leaving:

As usual, great write up :cheers:

Cobra4B 07-30-2010 10:35am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Munch (Post 42515)
Looking good. :cheers:

How much longer till it's on the track?

Well there's a HPDE with the Mazdadrivers group at VIR at the end of august. I'll probably do that as a shakedown event. The car would be done this weekend if I had all my parts. I'm waiting on getting my ATI super damper back and my Pfadt motor mounts before I can start putting it all back together.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stormrider (Post 42521)
That tunnel plate looks familiar :leaving:

As usual, great write up :cheers:

Actually the LAPD tunnel plate I bought from you is on the red car... that's just the stocker covered in DEI heat shielding.

Eagleeye 07-30-2010 6:54pm

I'll be with the Mazda group again [ fun bunch] with my stock, black '01 ZO6...will look for you. Have lots of family in area too...

Cobra4B 07-30-2010 7:12pm

Sounds good :cheers:

Cobra4B 08-01-2010 6:25pm

Hardbar upper control arm studs and camber kit installed up front
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Front suspension back together. New Z06 front monoleaf (the one I took off had started to split), fresh wheel hubs w/ ARP studs, new 2004 Z06 shocks, ECS spindle ducts, etc.
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DRM brake cooling ducts in place. These attach to a modified OEM duct which, in stock form, really only blows air on the tire. Eventually a duct will run from this to the ECS spindle duct, but I have to wait until the steering rack is back in to cut the hose to proper length.
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Removed the fender close-out panels. This allows better airflow through the engine bay.
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Modified the OEM fan shroud to allow more air flow through the radiator and oil cooler.
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Decided to wrap the rest of my h-pipe and used some spare heat shielding I had to make some shields for the top of the cats.
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My Pfadt motor mounts and fixed ATI Super Damper should come in early this week so I can finish her up.

-Brian

vafirevet 08-01-2010 7:01pm

It was nice to meet you and see your Z06 build up in person. An amazing effort! Keep the photos coming.

Cobra4B 08-01-2010 8:47pm

It was a pleasure meeting you too.... you should post up some pictures of your firetruck restoration in the Off Topic section :cheers:

vafirevet 08-01-2010 10:13pm

Done! Take care.

Bill

Cobra4B 08-05-2010 10:12pm

My Odyssey battery and Pfadt poly motor mounts came in today. I was able to install the motor mounts by removing the exhaust manifolds and tilting the motor to the side w/ a jack. Normally youhave to lift the motor some and drop the front cradle a little, but since I have so much out of the way I was able to do it in a more direct manner.

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Fabbed up some switch panels out of various plastics. Ill mount my traqmate to the top section. On the bottom I installed the traction control/active handling button, the fuel door popper, and a power poort all scavenged out of the center console etc.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...6/DSCF4177.jpg

Munch 08-06-2010 7:09am

What track advantage do you gain from the new motor mounts?

Cobra4B 08-06-2010 7:59am

It was part preventative maintenance seeing as the car had 119k on it, but the stockers are actualy perfectly fine w/ zero wear (sometimes they tear, but you can't see it until you remove them).

The main advantage is they keep the engine in place under load which is better for pretty much everything. The downside is they icrease vibration at idle and lower rpms.... I'd never do them on a street car.

Cobra4B 08-08-2010 8:45pm

A local buddy came over today with some aluminum stock to help me make a new battery hold-down bracket. I also covered the battery in heat reflective sheeting and installed it. The plug you see is to connect a battery tender/charger setup.
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Buddy also brought his cut-off wheel and remvoed the remaining threaded studs on the center tunnel.
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Cleaned up and degreased the PS rack and got it back in place.
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My ATI super damper came back from getting updated to the proper y-body flush hardware on Friday so I got that reinstalled as well.

mariofromnewyork 08-09-2010 9:51pm

Brian,

Looks Great Cant wait to see how it does at the track. Maybe Ill roll the my car down and we can beat on that in the mean time.

Im going to stop by this weekend want to see that car again.

Mario

Cobra4B 08-09-2010 11:11pm

Thanks Mario... just shoot me a text or give me a call whenever you want to swing by. Ill be working on it all week as I want to get it done this weekend so I have next weekend to shake it down and get it tuned etc.

Had the old stock fuel injectors off of my old 2001. They had about 1/2 the miles on them so I swapped them in.
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Manifold de-greased and cleaned up.
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New manifold and throttle-body gaskets.
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Low mileage stock radiator to replaced the one I pulled out of the car that had a hairline crack in the left end tank. Cleaned out the fins w/ running water and my compressor.
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Radiator w/ fans installed and a new lower radiator hose.
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Starting to look like an engine again.
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mariofromnewyork 08-09-2010 11:18pm

Who is doing your Tune? Any points for that?

Mario

Cobra4B 08-10-2010 10:20am

No points for a tune... most likely Ed.

Cobra4B 08-10-2010 11:59pm

ARP header stud kit came in today. Install wasnt as straight forward as initially expected. I had to break out my tap/die set and run a tap through all the holes to clean out the left over crud and anti-seize that comes on the factory bolts. As with anything the passenger side took 1/2 the time of the drivers side as I figured out the process. It was really nice to be able to just hang the gasket and manifold on the studs and torque to spec.
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Got the PS pump/cooler assembly installed and hooked up, water pump done w/ a 160 degree t-stat, and got the radiator/fan assembly in place.
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Oil cooler ready to install
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New coolant tank. Stocker was seeping and very dirty inside. Since I deleted the heater core I just modified one of the lines and ran it directly to the water pump. Normally that line goes back to the firewall to the heater core then back forward to the pump.
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Cobra4B 08-13-2010 11:34pm

Its alive! I got everything ready to go and fired it up. No issues, oil pressure came up after 3-4 seconds and settled in the 60s.... as the car warmed up it had dropped to 51 by the time I had turned it off. Car makes all kinds of bad noises until the lifters pump up, but after that it was quiet w/o any abnormal noises.
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CCA catch can
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Oil pressure good to go... no issues w/ the oil pump o-ring and having to tear it down again
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New fuel filter
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Cleaned up the trans and covered the common seep area w/ high-temp RTV. Changed the trans/diff fluid to Amsoil stuff
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H-pipe w/ the DEI silicone coating on it
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Installed
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Oil cooler installed, lines rounted, T1 front bar in...
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Munch 08-14-2010 2:19am

Why no major mods to the engine or exhaust, is that because of the class you will run in?

Cobra4B 08-14-2010 9:16am

Yeah.... running in TTA I can only do so much. Heres an explanation/overview I posted on another forum.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobra4B (Post 6499770)
I'm setting this car up around an actual timetrials class and the corresponding wheel to wheel racing class. It's all based on power/weight ratio and then you have modification points you can "spend".

For TTA (timetrials class A) and the coresponding PTA race class (same modification rules as TTA, but actual wheel to wheel racing) A C5 Z06 Corvette can have a minimum competition weight of 3118lbs. Min comp weight is the weight of the car as it would come off track after a race. So that's with dirver and safety stuff and remaining fuel load.

Based on that I can have a minimum power/weight ratio of 8.7 lbs/power. 3118/358 = 8.71. The heavier I run the car the more power I can run.

Now on top of all of this stuff in the TTA class I can spend modification points. In this case I can spend 19 before I'd ahve to move up to the next class which is TTS which is where I ran the Panoz. In TTS there are no modification points... it's "anything goes" so long as you stay above 8.7lbs/horse. I've spent my 19 points as follows:

1. 7pts - C5 Z06 is docked 7 pts from the start for simply being what it is.
2. 9pts - Hoosier A6 tires 13pts, however since I'm running a smaller 275 all around I get 4pts back so it's actually 9pts. Running the smaller tire also allows me 0.4 back on the hp/weight ratio. So by running them I can be at 8.3 lbs/horse which is where I get the previously mentioned 370-375 max figure.
3. 2pts - T1 swaybars
4. 1pts - ATI Superdamper UD pulley/balancer
Total = 19

So I'm done.... that's why I'm running stock manifolds and a stock air intake w/ a drop-in filter etc. Everything else done to the car is a no-points mod. Updating to the 2004 spec shocks, '02-'04 spec H-pipe, '02-'04 spec air intake, fresh springs/oil pump/timing chain, etc. etc. are all "free" mods.

The nice thing about TTA vs. TTS is it controls cost. To compete in TTS I'd need coil-overs, a bit more power, and full aero.... another $10k in the car minimum.

Hope this helps some.... if you really want to learn more about it venture over to nasaforums.com • Index page and read up on it all.


Garb55 08-14-2010 9:25am

Looking Great. https://www.thevettebarn.com/forums/i...ons/icon14.gif

Cobra4B 08-15-2010 12:07am

Got the front brakes all done and the brakes bled with ATE Superblue

DRM ducts completed w/ hose run to the ECS spindle ducts
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DBA rotors in place
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Calipers all cleaned up, Carbotech XP12s, Ti pad shims in place, and Stoptech lines in.
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Garb55 08-15-2010 12:39am

Cool, ready to see her Run!!

Cobra4B 08-15-2010 9:49pm

Finished the front brake duct install and got the front bumper installed this morning. Had to go to a going away part for a friend of the GF so couldnt get it done 100%

Measured and cut a slot out of the Z06 bumper screen for the front tow hook.
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Installed
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Stock brake duct. In OEM form it just blows air aimlessly into the wheel well.
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Trimmed to mate w/ the DRM extension allready in place.
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Slipped in place
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Secured w/ 2 set screws then covered w/ gorilla tape, then I covered the area around the DRM extension that I had to cut out to get the duct through.
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Cobra4B 08-17-2010 10:20pm

Took the car out for about 30 min tonight to get it good and hot and heat cycle the springs. Got the oil temp to 200, but it quickly dropped back in the 180s cruising so the oil cooler really works. One of my heim-joint endlinks (the RF) is really clanky, not sure if that means it's wearing out, but I knew they would click/clack some. I can grab the RF by hand and jiggle the center section back and forth and make it clank. The other 3 are movable, but much stiffer. Is this something I can address?

Problem I'm now facing is ride height... I have the car lowered to the max w/ the stock adjusters and it's still riding really high. Guess that's what happens when you take so much weight out of the car. Might have to dig into it and modify the spring adjusters to get it lower. Anyone run into this when gutting a C5?

Didn't notice anything negative from the Pfadt poly motor mounts. Some have complained about excessive vibration.

4x4 status w/ my junk shake-down street wheel/tire setup
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Hood back on
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mariofromnewyork 08-18-2010 5:32pm

Nice!

I bet if you bought the hardbar height adj. you could shave down the delrin to the height you need and get it as low as it can go!

My .02 cents

Looks good, nice thread, Good luck!

Mario

Toque 08-18-2010 5:48pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobra4B (Post 43914)
Problem I'm now facing is ride height... I have the car lowered to the max w/ the stock adjusters and it's still riding really high.

Put on the C6 front bolts, and the longer rear bolts I gave you. :D

Looking great BTW ! :cheers:

Toque

Stormrider 08-18-2010 6:06pm

Congrats on getting to the point you can road test her Brian :cheers:

paulp 08-18-2010 7:11pm

congrats brian im sure your happy to have it drivable now, awesome build by the way. Finally seeing one of your build threads and how detailed they are shows me how much time and work went into my car. Keep up the good work!
:cheers:

Cobra4B 08-18-2010 10:47pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toque (Post 43951)
Put on the C6 front bolts, and the longer rear bolts I gave you. :D

Looking great BTW ! :cheers:

Toque

The C6 front adjusters are on the vert, but I do have the rear LG bolts in the garage. I may pull the C6 adjusters off of the vert this weekend and swap over. I don't need them on the vert anyway because I've raised it back up to "lowered on stock bolts" height.
Quote:

Originally Posted by paulp (Post 43961)
congrats brian im sure your happy to have it drivable now, awesome build by the way. Finally seeing one of your build threads and how detailed they are shows me how much time and work went into my car. Keep up the good work!
:cheers:

Thanks man... I assure you I was just as thorough if not more in the yellow car. BTW you have the same balancer but w/ AC on that one.

Picked the car up from RaceWerks this evening. Results are as follows:

Weight - 2840 (1/2 tank of gas), so about 250lbs lighter than a stock car w/ a 1/2 tank.

Alignment results:

LF - 2.54 RF - 2.27

LR - 0.93 RR - 1.67

Cross-weight 50.3%

Going to get a different camber block to get the LR closer to 1.50 neg camber. Redid my swaybars tonight because I realized I installed them with the suspension unweighted.

Katech manual belt tensioner installed...
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Cobra4B 08-23-2010 9:46am

Custom fit Ultrashield, I/O port seat back brace, and Sparco 6-pts installed along w/ some finishing touches...

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Cobra4B 08-24-2010 10:16pm

Thanks to Racin' Jason for the phalic Hardbar shift knob... looks a bit "odd", but it's really nice to have to so close tot he steering wheel. It's my favorite in a track car. Also got the Traqmate installed.
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...6/DSCF4276.jpg

Started stickering-up the car too
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Toque 08-25-2010 7:18am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobra4B (Post 44439)
Started stickering-up the car too[/IMG]

Ricer... :lol: :lolsmile:

Toque

Cobra4B 08-25-2010 8:28am

Hey when there's contingency money on the line you sort of have to have their stickers on the car :)

Toque 08-25-2010 8:45am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobra4B (Post 44450)
Hey when there's contingency money on the line you sort of have to have their stickers on the car :)

I was kidding of course... :)

WKMCD 08-25-2010 10:29am

Don't forget this one.

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g9...persticker.jpg

Toque 08-25-2010 5:16pm

I'm thinking more along the lines of.....

http://i12.ebayimg.com/07/i/000/ag/a7/2a18_1.JPGhttp://i.ebayimg.com/23/!Bzf)7dQ!2k~...+e1ig~~_12.JPG

:lolsmile:

Garb55 08-25-2010 8:12pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toque (Post 44460)

:above::lolsmile:

Cobra4B 08-26-2010 2:46pm

Just got the call from Virginia Speed.... 361 rwhp on whatever their idea of a "very conservative road racing tune" is. Dropped her off this AM as it ws the only appointment they had open for the past 1.5 weeks before this weekend's event.

Good thing I didn't put that CAI on the car.... I can't make more than 370 rwhp baed on mhy calculations : 3118/370 = 8.43.

Not bad for a darned near stock 2001 w/ almost 120k on her.

Toque 08-26-2010 3:04pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobra4B (Post 44477)
Just got the call from Virginia Speed.... 361 rwhp on whatever their idea of a "very conservative road racing tune" is. Dropped her off this AM as it ws the only appointment they had open for the past 1.5 weeks before this weekend's event.

Good thing I didn't put that CAI on the car.... I can't make more than 370 rwhp baed on mhy calculations : 3118/370 = 8.43.

Not bad for a darned near stock 2001 w/ almost 120k on her.

That is strong for a 2001.:yesnod:
Your less then 3118lbs though right ? I thought you said 2800lbs ish...

Toque

Eagleeye 08-26-2010 6:53pm

See you there...

Garb55 08-26-2010 7:08pm

Weight - 2840 (1/2 tank of gas), so about 250lbs lighter than a stock car w/ a 1/2 tank.Cross-weight 50.3%

Eagleeye 08-26-2010 8:04pm

Ed did my 'o1 with a street tune....351/351

Stormrider 08-26-2010 8:17pm

Have fun Brian and kick some azz. Oh and don't forget to go "flat out" :D

Cobra4B 08-26-2010 11:56pm

Guys minimum competition weight is the car's weight just as it comes off track.... so the car + whatever fuel is left, plus you in the car. When you come off track you can't weight less than 3118lbs. So 2840 w/ about 1/2 tank plus me w/ my stuff on = 240 = 3080 which means I need to run a full tank to make weight. Figure 8 gallons of fuel to top it off @ 6.6 lbs per gallon = 46.2 lbs = 3126.2. So I'll probably need to add some ballast back to give myself a margin of error. The car really needs to be 3120 w/ 1/2 tank of gas.

Cobra4B 08-27-2010 8:07am

She's stickered up and ready to roll...
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Sneaks 08-27-2010 6:15pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobra4B (Post 44507)
Guys minimum competition weight is the car's weight just as it comes off track.... so the car + whatever fuel is left, plus you in the car. When you come off track you can't weight less than 3118lbs. So 2840 w/ about 1/2 tank plus me w/ my stuff on = 240 = 3080 which means I need to run a full tank to make weight. Figure 8 gallons of fuel to top it off @ 6.6 lbs per gallon = 46.2 lbs = 3126.2. So I'll probably need to add some ballast back to give myself a margin of error. The car really needs to be 3120 w/ 1/2 tank of gas.

Stop at a couple buffetts on the way to the track B. :rofl:

Garb55 08-27-2010 6:35pm

Looks Good; have fun and be safe. Is the plate for show or is it still street legal?
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...6/DSCF4278.jpg

Eagleeye 08-29-2010 8:36pm

Skipped last session...made it mostly home and LOST FRONT BRAKING... Pads were "toast". Good thing I didn't try to stay ! Remember i said I lost it on the last lap before the Roller Coaster as the brakes were funny and I was too hot getting in ? Damn Close

Eagleeye 08-29-2010 8:38pm

Let me know what Ryan's resolution for the "no start " ending up being...realy curious !

Cobra4B 08-29-2010 10:28pm

Glad you made it ok Gene... I figured you'd probably cooked your pads. Very good to meet you. Will let you know what's up w/ Ryan's car.... we're all very stumped/curious.

I'll have some videos/pics up this week.... tired.... going to bed now.

Had a conversion van flip in front of my on I64.... alomst took me/trailer/car out.... will post up about that fun tomorrow.

Cobra4B 08-29-2010 10:34pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garb55 (Post 44562)
Looks Good; have fun and be safe. Is the plate for show or is it still street legal?

I registered it for 2 years w/ the plates from my old yellow Z06 so the plates and registration are legal. However, the car has no inspection sticker and won't. I only drive it on the street around my house to bed in brakes and check for leakes etc. after wrenching on it. The only thing that it doesn't have that it needs is a horn. It has blinkers, headlights, and still has cats and everything.

paulp 08-29-2010 11:06pm

looks like a real race car... cant wait to see pics and vids of it on the track
:cheers:

Cobra4B 10-21-2010 8:33am

Finally got my own transponder...

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...444.jpg?ref=nf

Munch 10-21-2010 4:36pm

Is that so they can gps you on the track or what?

DropTheTop 10-22-2010 7:22am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Munch (Post 48180)
Is that so they can gps you on the track or what?

I think it's for lap times, but I could be wrong. :confused5:

Cobra4B 10-22-2010 2:36pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Munch (Post 48180)
Is that so they can gps you on the track or what?

Quote:

Originally Posted by DropTheTop (Post 48222)
I think it's for lap times, but I could be wrong. :confused5:

It's for the standardized lap timing system. I have a Traqmate which is a GPS based data acquisition system that does all kinds of things, but for official NASA timing/scoring you have to have an AMB transponder. Normally they rent them for $75/weekend and they're rechargable units. This is permanent and direct wiired to 12V switched power.

Cobra4B 01-15-2011 1:06am

Doing a few winter projects....

Pfadt Polys done up front
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...6/DSCF4673.jpg

Powergrind endlinks installed
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...6/DSCF4674.jpg

Headlight and turn signal delete in process
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Munch 01-15-2011 7:02am

:cool:


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