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86RAG 08-19-2020 12:06pm

What's a good 9MM defense bullet?
 
I'm talking about reloading. I have plenty of 115 grain round nose bullets, but want to do some defense loads. I see mostly 124 or 147 grain hollow points. Is 124 better than 147, or vice versa? I want to have both home and carry rounds, so should I be looking at doing different grain bullets for each, or is there a round that's good for both? No way in hell am I paying these ludicrous prices for factory rounds right now. :faint:

DAB 08-19-2020 12:21pm

i use the same as the FBI: Hornady Critical Duty, 135gr.

for reloading, i'd go with 147 gr. hard part will be finding the JHP bullets.

86RAG 08-19-2020 12:24pm

I can find these. Not Critical Duty though.

https://www.hornady.com/bullets/hand...-147-gr-xtp#!/

Mike Mercury 08-19-2020 12:29pm

Hornady Critical Duty or Defense.

DAB 08-19-2020 12:33pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by 86RAG (Post 1797914)
I can find these. Not Critical Duty though.

https://www.hornady.com/bullets/hand...-147-gr-xtp#!/

those are good bullets. shoot for loading between 900 to 950 fps.

Mike Mercury 08-19-2020 1:13pm

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1597037045.jpg

Bill 08-19-2020 1:20pm

I have a box of Cor-bon JHP +p that I have been saving for SHTF scenario, and hope I never need them. Sadly, while I need to practice more, I am kind of afraid of using up my target ammo and not being able to get more. Last time I bought pre Wu flu, it was $ .17/rd delivered. I bought some at the early stages for $ .20 and don't even want to think about what it costs now, even if you can find it.

DAB 08-19-2020 1:43pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bill_daniels (Post 1797958)
I have a box of Cor-bon JHP +p that I have been saving for SHTF scenario, and hope I never need them. Sadly, while I need to practice more, I am kind of afraid of using up my target ammo and not being able to get more. Last time I bought pre Wu flu, it was $ .17/rd delivered. I bought some at the early stages for $ .20 and don't even want to think about what it costs now, even if you can find it.

last i checked on gun broker.com, you could get a case of PMC 115 FMJ (i have some that i got for 20 cents/round delivered) for about $500. :faint: glad i have enough for a bit.

Cybercowboy 08-19-2020 1:58pm

Yeah, I'm not burning through any of my stash right now.

73sbVert 08-19-2020 2:09pm

I use whatever is on sale for range fodder, but for defense, I've been using Ranger 147gr JHP.
I use 147gr because it's subsonic and with my suppressor on my Sig, I won't go deaf if I have to shoot indoors.

DAB 08-19-2020 2:13pm

another advantage to a heavier bullet, is a little softer recoil, so you can get back on target just a tad faster. if that matters.

86RAG 08-19-2020 3:43pm

I like the idea of a heavier slow round so there's less chance of blowing through and hitting someone behind hypothetical bad guy :D

86RAG 08-19-2020 3:44pm

So, what do you guys think of the XTP bullets I linked to? :waiting:

Edit:
Sorry, I missed Doug's post on these. :cert:

86RAG 08-19-2020 3:48pm

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Originally Posted by 73sbVert (Post 1797969)
I use whatever is on sale for range fodder,

For range fodder I use Berry's or X-Treme bullets. Only copper plated, but not too hard to find, and reasonably cheap :seasix:

73sbVert 08-19-2020 3:52pm

https://www.gun-deals.com/list/ammo/9mm+Luger

Great ammo deal search site. :yesnod:

86RAG 08-19-2020 4:07pm

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Originally Posted by 73sbVert (Post 1797987)
https://www.gun-deals.com/list/ammo/9mm+Luger

Great ammo deal search site. :yesnod:

Good site, but it's for factory loaded stuff. I'm just looking for bullets for reloading :cert:

DAB 08-19-2020 5:08pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by 86RAG (Post 1797984)
I like the idea of a heavier slow round so there's less chance of blowing through and hitting someone behind hypothetical bad guy :D

that's why you don't use ball ammo for self defense, it'll go right thru.

good JHP ammo is designed to expand and stop penetrating. they use ballistic gelatin, and the FBI criteria is to stop between 12 and 18 inches after impact. there is a lot of fancy engineering to make a bullet do that.

the Hornady Critical Duty has also passed all the FBI barrier penetration tests, shooting thru various common materials and then impacting the gelatin before expanding and stopping. you can look up the tests on the Hornady website. good stuff.

MEANZ06 08-19-2020 5:33pm

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Originally Posted by Cybercowboy (Post 1797968)
Yeah, I'm not burning through any of my stash right now.

:iagree: I have no need to look at ammo prices, I poked in on this thread and Geebus!!! The prices are insane! Double and sometimes triple $ for what I shoot... :willy:

Bill 08-19-2020 5:37pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by MEANZ06 (Post 1798008)
:iagree: I have no need to look at ammo prices, I poked in on this thread and Geebus!!! The prices are insane! Double and sometimes triple $ for what I shoot... :willy:

Another reason to vote Trump. With a Trump win, hopefully the insurrection will stop or BE stopped without citizens having to go all 1776.

DAB 08-19-2020 6:02pm

auction that ends in a few minutes:

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/877087169

case of PMC 115 FMJ, last bid i saw was $595/1000. insane. it's just average range ammo.


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