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lspencer534 12-21-2017 2:13pm

Please do your research...
 
Several times over the past few months I've been called to task when someone found a Snopes.com opinion that contradicted what I had posted, and lots of people immediately assumed that "Snopes must be right!".

You guys need to read up on Snopes. Since Snopes became the go-to place to check the authenticity of stories,and even news organizations relied on it. The Daily Mail, a UK-based newspaper, recently became curious about Snopes and using the transcript of the divorce proceeding of its two founders developed some shocking facts:

One, David Mikkelson, the founder of Snopes, was asked about the specific detailed criteria Snopes uses to screen its applicants and decide who to hire as a fact checker, surprisingly David demurred, saying only that the site looks for applicants across all fields and skills. He specifically did not provide any detail of any kind regarding the screening process and how Snopes evaluates potential hires. David also did not respond to further emails asking whether, as part of the screening process, Snopes has applicants fact check a set of articles to evaluate their reasoning and research skills and to gain insight into their thinking process.

Even more strangely, despite asking in two separate emails how Snopes assesses its fact checkers and whether it performs intra- and inter-rater reliability assessments, David responded only that fact checkers work together collaboratively and did not respond to further requests for more detail and did not answer whether Snopes uses any sort of assessment scoring or ongoing testing process to assess its fact checkers.

A robust human rating workflow must regularly assess the accuracy and reproducibility of the scores generated by its human raters, even when they work collaboratively together. Typically this means that on a regular basis each fact checker or fact checker team is given the same article to fact check and the results compared across the groups.

David’s responses regarding the hiring of strongly partisan fact checkers and his lack of response on screening and assessment protocols present a deeply troubling picture of a secretive black box that acts as ultimate arbitrator of truth, yet reveals little of its inner workings.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kalevle.../#2890dba227f8

Other things uncovered by The Daily Mail:

*Snopes.com founder David Mikkelson's new wife Elyssa Young is employed by the website as an administrator.

*She has worked as an escort and porn actress and despite claims that the website is non-political ran as a Libertarian for Congress on a 'Dump Bush' platform.

*Its main 'fact checker' is Kimberly LaCapria, whose blog 'ViceVixen' says she is in touch with her 'domme side' and has posted on Snopes.com while smoking pot.

Facebook 'fact checker' Snopes.com accused of defrauding website to pay for prostitutes | Daily Mail Online

snide 12-21-2017 2:19pm

I've always thought that snopes.com was full of crap.

lspencer534 12-21-2017 2:24pm

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Originally Posted by snide (Post 1604522)
I've always thought that snopes.com was full of crap.

I think that now you know the answer. To me, Snopes is just a no-moral, unprofessional, POS organization that is definitely left-leaning. I place o credence in a pot-head "researcher." I have no problem with pot, but don't do your job on it.

Millenium Vette 12-21-2017 2:34pm

So, is snopes wrong on the Andy Rooney quotes? I don't believe so. FWIW, I neither like nor trust snopes.

:cert:

lspencer534 12-21-2017 2:56pm

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Originally Posted by Millenium Vette (Post 1604529)
So, is snopes wrong on the Andy Rooney quotes? I don't believe so. FWIW, I neither like nor trust snopes.

:cert:

I have no idea. All I'm saying is that Snopes says it's wrong; others say differently. Why don't we ask Andy??? That would be the only sure way to know, wouldn't it?

DAB 12-21-2017 2:57pm

What is truth?

10 points if you know who asked this.

lspencer534 12-21-2017 3:08pm

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Originally Posted by DAB (Post 1604533)
What is truth?

10 points if you know who asked this.

It wasn't me. What do I win?

DAB 12-21-2017 3:10pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by lspencer534 (Post 1604536)
It wasn't me. What do I win?

the question wasn't "who didn't say it". :slap:

lspencer534 12-21-2017 3:37pm

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Originally Posted by DAB (Post 1604538)
the question wasn't "who didn't say it". :slap:

I know it wasn't me. What do I win?

Ol Timer 12-21-2017 3:41pm

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Originally Posted by DAB (Post 1604533)
What is truth?

10 points if you know who asked this.

If memory serves, it was a man who really wasn't interested in knowing the truth!

OddBall 12-21-2017 4:09pm

I'll have to snopes this.

Bill 12-21-2017 4:18pm

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Originally Posted by DAB (Post 1604533)
What is truth?

10 points if you know who asked this.

How many points do I get for correctly identifying who said, "what is love?"


VITE1 12-21-2017 4:43pm

1 point is for reference
2 points form a line
3 points form a plane.

Multiple point fill in the plane.

Anyone who only has one reference point needs to do more research. Everyone has an agenda.

Cybercowboy 12-21-2017 6:04pm

https://i.redd.it/g1jer42poc501.png

DAB 12-21-2017 6:09pm

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Originally Posted by Cybercowboy (Post 1604569)

this is why aliens avoid us. we look like idiots. :dance:

Shrike6 12-21-2017 7:03pm

Pilate

DAB 12-21-2017 7:52pm

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Originally Posted by Shrike6 (Post 1604578)
Pilate

very good! full marks. and 10 points.

John 18:38 for those who want to verify it. no, no citation to Snopes.

Aerovette 12-21-2017 10:57pm

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Originally Posted by DAB (Post 1604533)
What is truth?

10 points if you know who asked this.

I don't know, but according to Jack Nicholson, we can't handle it

OddBall 12-21-2017 11:29pm

Now, is Truth factual?

And are facts the Truth?

(this is kind of like an "if a tree falls and nobody is around" argument)

Sea Six 12-22-2017 2:11am

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Originally Posted by VITE1 (Post 1604550)
1 point is for reference
2 points form a line
3 points form a plane.

Multiple point fill in the plane.

Anyone who only has one reference point needs to do more research. Everyone has an agenda.

Multiple points fill in the plane, but only if they are all in the same plane.


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