The Vette Barn

The Vette Barn (https://www.thevettebarn.com/forums/index.php)
-   Off Topic (https://www.thevettebarn.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=38)
-   -   Dealer Insanity...2020 Supra at almost $200K (https://www.thevettebarn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=119888)

99 pewtercoupe 07-27-2019 3:27pm

Dealer Insanity...2020 Supra at almost $200K
 
[I][I][I]
https://jalopnik.com/heres-a-2020-to...000-1836757761

There’s regular crazy and there’s Florida crazy. In the last day alone, we’ve seen terrestrial manatees, ass-eating bacteria, and blatant electricity theft all out of the Sunshine State. But all of that is nothing compared to the markup on this 2020 Supra.

Until this classified ad from Toyota Kia of Vero Beach, Florida showed up, at least. We’re no strangers to stiff dealer markups on exciting new cars. They’re not always fair, but when supply’s low, demand is gonna be high. But just how high can it get?

We were amazed to find out.

It turns out that this dealer is not selling this Supra (which starts at $49,995) up 50 percent. They’re not even marking it up 100 percent. They’ve added $138,819 to the price tag of this fully loaded Supra Premium in Renaissance Red. There have been some pretty high markups on this car already, but this is absurdity.

Toyota Kia of Vero Beach did indeed confirm to us over the phone that the price listed in the ad is accurate, and they did say that they have received “serious interest” for the car at that price.

The last time we spoke about a new model getting marked up beyond affordability it was the Jeep Gladiator. A convertible pickup truck with the off-road ability of a Wrangler is going to attract a lot more attention (and potential buyers) than something more conventional, and dealers have found that in some cases that attention is worth a cool twenty grand. The same thing went for the Dodge Challenger Demon. Limited production and preposterous power figures were naturally going to be matched by sticker shock to the tune of $175,000.
Now, it always does cost more to be an early adopter. Just ask someone who bought the first iPhone on day 1. It’s bound to be worth it to some people. It’s exciting to be the first to show up in the latest machine, especially when you get to do quarter miles before ever stepping out of the car on your first drive. But at some point marking up the newest model stops being about harnessing demand and starts being about getting the kind of attention that warrants a write-up . And hey, it worked.


:wtf:

MrPeabody 07-27-2019 3:41pm

In '06, the Chevrolet dealer I used to work for wanted a 20K markup on Z06 Corvettes. I asked my old boss, if he really thought they would get that much. He said they let a guy walk out yesterday at 15K over.

Here's how he explained their thinking. He said they were only allocated two Z06s, and he had all summer to find two idiots. And you know what? He was right. He found them, and it did take all summer.

In '01 when I worked there I had a phone call from a guy who asked if we had any Z06s on the lot. I said yes, and he said "I understand they go for 15K above sticker". They're out there.:yesnod:

Rikki Z-06 07-27-2019 6:14pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrPeabody (Post 1678992)
In '06, the Chevrolet dealer I used to work for wanted a 20K markup on Z06 Corvettes. I asked my old boss, if he really thought they would get that much. He said they let a guy walk out yesterday at 15K over.

Here's how he explained their thinking. He said they were only allocated two Z06s, and he had all summer to find two idiots. And you know what? He was right. He found them, and it did take all summer.

In '01 when I worked there I had a phone call from a guy who asked if we had any Z06s on the lot. I said yes, and he said "I understand they go for 15K above sticker". They're out there.:yesnod:


Unbelievable.

:confused5:

boracayjohnny 07-27-2019 6:23pm

Any dealer can ask any price for a new, hot car. The thing that separates the mouth breathers from others is not to be the dumb ass that pays what they're asking. PT Barnum's saying come to life.

99 pewtercoupe 07-27-2019 6:34pm

I figured the only possible customers at that price point are U Tubers that need to be the first out there with videos or possibly aftermarket tuners/suppliers who want to be the first out of the gate with performance enhancements

Datawiz 07-27-2019 6:42pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by 99 pewtercoupe (Post 1679004)
I figured the only possible customers at that price point are U Tubers that need to be the first out there with videos or possibly aftermarket tuners/suppliers who want to be the first out of the gate with performance enhancements

And me...


I'll wait for the 2020 Corvette. :datawiz:

MrPeabody 07-27-2019 6:54pm

I bought my '05 in April of that year. I joined a Corvette club and started going to Corvette events all over NorCal. My car was a demo that one of the dealership owners drove for awhile. It had 1,500 miles on it. I paid 2K under MSRP. Even with as many Corvette people I was meeting, it was almost six months before I met someone who paid under MSRP. Most people I met had paid 2-5K over MSRP. Part of the reason I got mine for the price I did, even though it was demo was that I bought it from the place I used to work at.

When I was signing the papers the F&I guy (who I used to work with) said there is a 1K rebate on every new Chevrolet except the Corvette, but whoops I made a mistake and gave it to you. I said I didn't want him to get in trouble and he said the boss told him to do it. Also gave me a seven year 70K warranty for their cost, which was around $800.

boracayjohnny 07-27-2019 7:28pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrPeabody (Post 1679007)
I bought my '05 in April of that year. I joined a Corvette club and started going to Corvette events all over NorCal. My car was a demo that one of the dealership owners drove for awhile. It had 1,500 miles on it. I paid 2K under MSRP. Even with as many Corvette people I was meeting, it was almost six months before I met someone who paid under MSRP. Most people I met had paid 2-5K over MSRP. Part of the reason I got mine for the price I did, even though it was demo was that I bought it from the place I used to work at.

When I was signing the papers the F&I guy (who I used to work with) said there is a 1K rebate on every new Chevrolet except the Corvette, but whoops I made a mistake and gave it to you. I said I didn't want him to get in trouble and he said the boss told him to do it. Also gave me a seven year 70K warranty for their cost, which was around $800.

When you're a good co-worker/employee, folks remember. :seasix:

dvarapala 07-27-2019 7:37pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by boracayjohnny (Post 1679002)
Any dealer can ask any price for a new, hot car. The thing that separates the mouth breathers from others is not to be the dumb ass that pays what they're asking. PT Barnum's saying come to life.

:iagree: The only insanity is on the part of the buyer who pays that price.

StaticCling 07-27-2019 7:44pm

140k Markup? That's absurd. :wtf:

snide 07-27-2019 7:45pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by datawiz (Post 1679005)
And me...


I'll wait for the 2020 Corvette. :datawiz:

I'll wait for the 2024 Corvette. :datawiz:

StaticCling 07-27-2019 7:50pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by snide (Post 1679021)
I'll wait for the 2024 Corvette. :datawiz:

Hearing it's dual engine, Mid and Front. :yesnod:

JRD77VET 07-27-2019 8:01pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by chinaski (Post 1679020)
140k Markup? That's absurd. :wtf:

No, absurd is paying the outrageous premium for one of the first ZR1's and immediately turning it into a racecar. ( just the cage and initial prep work was over $40K )

Then, the "I never raced before" owner, who was on slicks even though the builder told him to learn the car on Hoosier DOT race tire ( more forgiving if you screw up ) crashed the car in warm ups before the first race.

The car was so new, parts were NOT available yet. ( Chevy was using all the available parts to build brand new ZR1s )

Mr "more money than sense" purchased another ZR1 at an outrageous premium to "borrow" parts from to fix the first one he crashed. :crazy:

Dan Dlabay 07-27-2019 8:04pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrPeabody (Post 1679007)
I bought my '05 in April of that year. I joined a Corvette club and started going to Corvette events all over NorCal. My car was a demo that one of the dealership owners drove for awhile. It had 1,500 miles on it. I paid 2K under MSRP. Even with as many Corvette people I was meeting, it was almost six months before I met someone who paid under MSRP. Most people I met had paid 2-5K over MSRP. Part of the reason I got mine for the price I did, even though it was demo was that I bought it from the place I used to work at.

When I was signing the papers the F&I guy (who I used to work with) said there is a 1K rebate on every new Chevrolet except the Corvette, but whoops I made a mistake and gave it to you. I said I didn't want him to get in trouble and he said the boss told him to do it. Also gave me a seven year 70K warranty for their cost, which was around $800.

I ordered by 05 C6 in Sept. of 04 and took delivery in Dec. 04 Paid MSRP minus $1200 GM card points. No mark up and I got a free hat and 2 free tee shirts.:cert:

Loco Vette 07-27-2019 8:40pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRD77VET (Post 1679023)
No, absurd is paying the outrageous premium for one of the first ZR1's and immediately turning it into a racecar. ( just the cage and initial prep work was over $40K )

Then, the "I never raced before" owner, who was on slicks even though the builder told him to learn the car on Hoosier DOT race tire ( more forgiving if you screw up ) crashed the car in warm ups before the first race.

The car was so new, parts were NOT available yet. ( Chevy was using all the available parts to build brand new ZR1s )

Mr "more money than sense" purchased another ZR1 at an outrageous premium to "borrow" parts from to fix the first one he crashed. :crazy:

Please tell me there are pics of this.

JRD77VET 07-27-2019 8:50pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loco Vette (Post 1679030)
Please tell me there are pics of this.

I'll check but I think they were lost when my hard drive crashed. It was a yellow C6 ZR1 with Goodyear slick ( bold white letters on the slicks).

69camfrk 07-28-2019 5:50am

There is a used car lot here in town that has one already. I don't see anyone around here paying 6 figures for one, but hey, you never know.

m and t's77 07-28-2019 7:56am

Pure greed,my dealership has its marked up 20k over sticker.They also have TRD Pro Taco's with an extra 5k attached to them because they are so rare...now they have a few of them sitting on the lot collecting dust because adding 5k to a mid size truck with a sticker of 45k is such a good move.:kick:

6spdC6 07-28-2019 8:25am

Quote:

Originally Posted by datawiz (Post 1679005)
And me...


I'll wait for the 2020 Corvette. :datawiz:


Same for me (2020 or 2021 possibly) IF I get a new one, got low mileage on my 15 Vert as it is.

Reason for waiting I'm not going to be another unpaid Beta tester like I was in 05. I ordered my dream car and it was a museum pick up. It also had the infamous DBS problem. (Dead Battery Syndrome) Had the car for 2 years and even worked with Chevy engineers to try to fix the problem,. In disgust I dumped it and bought a 07 Z06. Right after that they finely found a fix. I did wait till the second year to get my C7!

MrPeabody 07-28-2019 12:14pm

Me in 2001 selling Chevrolets:

Woman buying new Duramax: Am I getting a good deal here?

Me: Are you kidding? Three grand above sticker for a new Duramax is a screamin' deal.:yesnod::leaving:

Seriously, there was a dealer mark-up on every new car on the lot. From 1K on a Malibu to 15K on a Z06. Very few people ever paid it, but a lot of people paid MSRP and think they really worked us over.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 4:43am.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Copyright © 2009 - 2024 The Vette Barn