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My little 20V Dewalt isn't up to the tasks around here. I'm thinking of upgrading to an Echo CS-2511pn. "Lightest rear handle."

https://www.homedepot.com/p/ECHO-12-...N-12/326294714

Put down the granny saw and go for this

https://www.stihlusa.com/products/ch...b0cc2b3522b405

BTDT. At age 64, I need something a lot lighter, and can hire the guy for the bigger shit.

here's a light weight option

https://www.stihlusa.com/products/ch...ch-saws/ms271/

I have the 14" Echo chain saw. Works good and is reliable.

Three times heavier. Thanks for your help.

They make about 7 that size, so ...

Pfft - I'm 69 and can still easily run my MS260 with an 18" bar

I have an Echo CS-2510…the dealer version where you can actually buy filters, spark plugs and decent chains. I also have a 4510 but that is relegated to big stuff. The 2510 is a real back saver and easily used with one hand if clearing tangles of branches. When I bought it I was told it was their most popular saw with the tree trimmers. Easy start every time. Go to a real equipment store. The place I went to sells both Stihl and Echo and if you don’t have a bias, Echo is their favorite for low repairs and easy strart. The 2510 is pricey, about the same as a 4510. Best Chain saw I’ve ever had.

I have a Stihl MS251. Good machine.

I actually want a small light weight battery saw for light work and trimming.

I bought an Echo over 20 years ago, don't remember what model it is, but it's been a great saw, cut a lot of firewood with it. Starts good cold or hot, never had any trouble with it. I had a McCullough before that, it was a POS.

Don't use the Echo too much anymore though, too old, I buy all my firewood. :shrug:

3 husqvarna's, 14", 18" and 24" and a husqvarna pole saw

Stihl is a man's saw...do not expect Yad's puny little arms to be able to handle a man's saw ......:rofl:

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For short bars like this you find a top handle saw easier to handle in more situations.

Normally I would buy from a dealer but I have a $190 store credit at Home Depot that I'd like to use. They sell the entire Echo line, including the pro series that I'm considering, 2511pn.

They don't make the 2510 anymore. Looks like the 2511 is its successor.

I have no experience with a top handle saw, which is actually 1/2# lighter. I need to cut some small trees, 6-10" range Also a few larger stumps close to the ground. Tell me your experience doing that with a top handle.

I had a 20" McCullough since the late 80's. It was a decent saw but wouldn't start when hot. I replaced the oiler after thirty years and had to find NOS parts on ebay. Two years ago something else broke so I gave it away on Nextdoor "for parts only".

The last time I used it my back hurt for several days. But the Dewalt 20V I bought for small tasks is really only good for 3" or less.

Frankly my Dewalt 20V sawzall with a tree blade does mostly what my Dewalt 20V chainsaw will do.

I have one of their backpack leaf blowers and it's a nice machine. :seasix:

12 lbs, like carrying a AR15 loaded.. maybe a couple pounds more.

Stihl..../

My McC, which I bought new in the '70s, eventually started hard hot or cold, couldn't get parts for it anymore. It cut fine once it was running.

I ended up taking it to the dumps after I got the Echo. :eek:

But if you have a small penis, are lacking testosterone, and love to follow fads, buy a Stihl. :Jeff '79:

:waiting:

Well, it'd take a 20" chainsaw to chop down my woodie! :yesnod:

Have 2 Sears 14" gas chain saws (at daughters house) 40 years old and still going strong.

Just wait til GTO sees this!

https://i.imgur.com/7LaBne7.jpg

You going to make a purchase like that with a 1 Star rating? Apparently because nobody has purchased one

Should get the Husqvarna 550.

https://www.amazon.com/Husqvarna-Out...99720663&psc=1

I have a 20'' Steihl and due to health problems its getting harder to pull start. Its no problem when I get it running, it does anything I want it to do. (been running a chain saw for 60 years!)

Now at my age and health I'm looking to make my life easier. I do not do large projects around here, so about the only thing I need a chain saw for is taking care of a tree/branch that falls and blocks my driveway. Any serious tree work my son helps me or if a big job I hire a local contractor, up here where I live there are plenty.:D

I'm thinking of giving the saw to my son and get a battery powered for as described above. Other than being much easier to start I do not have to worry about gas going bad either.

If you can't pick up the saw, how the hell are going to move or pick up the wood......:slap:

If this was for me, I have no problem doing that, my problem is starting it! (Other 2 stroke tools also)

I have a shoulder that needs surgery. I have always started by holding the saw in left hand (side with bad shoulder) and using my right to pull start.
I know thats not the recommended method but I have done it that way all my life, old/bad habits are hard to fix!

My hope is to get by as best I can and not have the surgery. At my age I realy do not want the kind of surgery

When I had rotator cuff pain in early 2021, I could barely function much less run a chain saw. But as time went on, and I did PT, my shoulder started improving.

In August-September no way could I start the saw. I'd put my foot across the lower handle and pull with both hands, but couldn't summon enough power to even pull past one compression. But once we got into October, I could start it fine as the shoulder problem had mostly gone away.

Home PT, every 2-3 days, helped more than anything. And now, when I feel a bit of pain coming, I'll do them again but it often goes maybe 3 weeks before I need it.

Good luck, old timer! :seasix:

I'm 68 with moderate Rheumatoid Arthritis. It seems to be under control with weekly Enbrel pen shots but I have to watch what I'm doing. I installed all new cabinets in the kitchen. Kind of got to plan ahead a bit.

Had one of those flat dolly's with casters on the bottom from Harbor freight to move them around. Borrowed some cabinet jacks. Sent pics to my son who said wtf are you doing and who helped? Well, nobody with the right equipment.

Only chainsaw I ever owned was a Poulan years ago. If I were to get one with a Battery, I would get a warranty with it or this idea.

https://www.costco.com/chain-saws.html

:seasix: ****Just to clarify Did you have the surgery or just do PT?***

The ortho doc recommended surgery. If I can get better (not perfect just better) on just PT that I would do.

I fell 22' in 1977 and fractured that shoulder,(Among a bunch more injuries) now after all these years its coming back to haunt me.


Thanks, Dave

Thanks, all advice welcomed!:seasix:

Everyone is obviously different. My Ortho Doc replaced both hips and did arthroscopic on both knees 4 years ago. Been pretty good since but both shoulders had serious pain.

About a year & a half ago, he started giving me steroid shot in each shoulder. Felt great but only lasted 3-4 months.

Well, last summer I had a nasty flare of Arthrits. Long story short and after a sht load of blood tests, the Humira I had been taking for years was no longer working.

My Rheumatologist switch to Enbrel and I have been pretty good since and the bonus is my shoulders also. No more steroid shots. Ortho Dr said this was great and go with it.

Yadkin, my sincere apologies. I did not mean to hijack your thread!-:cert:

Solid Yadkin thread. I have nothing to contribute but well-wishes.

Thought of Yaddie yesterday while watching a truck crash compilation on youtube. A Midnight Blue Macan cut in front of an 18 wheeler and brake checked it at about 65 mph. The Macan ended up getting pushed forward, sideways, for short distance before veering off onto the shoulder and flipping over on its lid. Those side airbags on the new vehicles really are a game changer. Carry on...

The lightest Husqvarna is their T525, at 5.95# "excl. cutting equipment". I assume that means the bar and chain. It's also a top handle.

The Echo 2511TN is 5.2#. I assume that includes the bar and chain.

Thanks, but I'm kinda used to it. :Jeff '79:

I've never brake checked anyone. It's the most asinine thing that anyone can do on the highway.

There's a guy here who drives a mini. He came out of the Food Lion parking lot right in front of me, in the Ranger, and I had the cruise control set at 3-over. The guy drove slow then brake-checked me. Against my better judgement I did him the courtesy of touching my brakes- otherwise he would have been shot forward into oncoming traffic.

Since then I've seen him twice more, once brake-checking a truck on the same two lane road. That asshole has a death wish.

Was meant for the OP, but since you're able to lift, I could always use the muscle!:D

I was diagnosed by an ortho and my primary with having tendonitis in my shoulders (inflammation of the tendons) and arthritis in my wrists. I had a cortisone shot in my right shoulder and right wrist, which were huge improvements. My left wrist and shoulder never got quite as bad, so I suffered through the left side without any shots.

After a month or so I also had achy legs (not sharp pain as above) and some pain in my feet. The blood test in the beginning showed inflammation markers.

After a bunch of reading, I concluded that I had systemic inflammation, but my doc poo-pooed that idea. They either don't want to deal with that, or don't know what to do about it. Most of medicine is about addressing symptoms with drugs or surgery, no digging to find and correct the actual cause.

My right wrist and shoulder extreme pain came on literally overnight, left side a week or so later. It got worse but started to stabilize within about 3-4 months, started to get better, and gradually disappeared within around 8 months (all this is why I abandoned my business and retired in 2021).

Who ever heard of osteoarthritis coming on suddenly, and then disappearing within a year? But my doc stuck to that diagnosis.

Early on I went to PT, and they really helped with my shoulders, but not wrists. I still do those (stretching and strengthening) exercises at home, along with a few others that I picked up online.

So far, so good.

Sorry Yaddy :( for derailing . . .


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The car reminded me of you, not the action. If you cut someone off you would speed up and get out of the way. You're not an impeder. Not your style.
Food Lion. LOL. May as well call it Glutton's. When I was in SC in '21 we went there and I was blown away by the name, but also by the prices. Food was literally 50% the cost as it was in CA. One reason the friends I was visiting had moved to Pawley's Island from Sacramento, CA!
Years ago there was a liquor store called 'The Liquor Trough'. Same deal. Hilarious.

Here we have Lowes Foods for the Floridiots and Linvillians. Prices are at least 50% more than Food Lizard. And the bathroom at Food Lion is a lot cleaner. :seasix:

But on Thursdays, Lowes has 1/2 price draft beers. Get there early to get a seat...

Don’t forget Harris Twatter. Even worse than Lowes on $$$. Food Lizard (like the new name) is decent except for meat, chicken good red meat bad from there. Cheaper grades…..

It is impossible to sear red meat from the Food Kitty; they pump it full of water.
Waldo World is worse though... they use "solution" to add weight but not value.

I did two renovation jobs for Lowes Inc. in the Winston-Salem area several years ago, including the new facade at their Clemmons store. This was when they started with the "local" theme. It was evident that they wanted to be the next Wegmans, which is up in the NE.

We're trying to cut down on beef since the start of the FBJ era. When I do by beef at Food Lizard, I tend to buy the Spring Crossing Cattle Company brand. It's a little pricey, but nicely trimmed in smaller packages.

I've decided on the Echo 2511pn, rear handle. Home Depot won't oder one over the phone or online using my store credit, dumb bastages. So I'll try to buy from a local dealer.

2511t is a badass saw. You have to consider, echo uses extremely hard rings and cylinder coatings, it will take a few tanks for it to "wake up"...and really Gallup. I pull the carb limiters and drill a 5/16 hole in the muffler outlet, retune them and go with the 16" bar, hell of a pocket rocket

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

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Rear handle for the win. :dance:

Used many different kinds of chainsaws over the years. All have been rear handle.-:D

Yaddy, here's my Echo, model CS-5000. Don't remember what size bar it has:


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I've never heard of the "top handle" or WTF he's talking about. :confused:

Can cut wood with one hand and fap with the other.

So they re-invented the wheel?

Great.

Rent free, Himey. :Jeff '79:

All the Pro tree guys used top handle saws or "tree saws" as they were known back then in the early, middle 70's. I don't think Echo even existed back then. They were smaller and lighter and easier to use for trimming and transporting and storing. Think climbing a tree and carrying it or roping it up. Try handling both, easy to see the diff. And since they did the majority of the cutting, they were also less expensive to replace. Larger rear handled saws did the grunt work of cutting logs and felling trees.

My buddy collects and rehabs old Homelight and Stihl saws. Here he is a few years ago at work. Attachment 98733

Back in the day, when men were men. :hurray:

My dad had about a 6-foot crosscut, used it with him many times. After getting yelled at enough times, I learned that you only PULL, you never PUSH. :eek:


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I cut a lot of logs with my grandfather using a 4' tree saw back in the day. Then he bought a Homelite chainsaw and turned me into a log-cutting machine. :seasix:

The saw came in today. I opted for the 14" instead of the 12. I also ordered a scabbard for $5, but the saw came with one.

Found a small defect on the bar. I hope it doesn't effect performance.

Just install the bar so it is on the top. Probably won't matter much anyway. you can always smooth off any burrs with a file.

Enjoy it.

Should have went with the Stihl. :D

Need to change the name on the unit to "YADCO" before use. Just to tie things up and square them away.

That’s cute.

Congrats. Looks like an award for selling $10,000 in Mary Kay lipstick. :leaving:

Ok that’s funny. :rofl:

sorry.... but nothing like a Stihl:datawiz:

Or a Jonsered. :datawiz:

LOL @ "brand loyalty." :Jeff '79:

More money and more weight.

For small jobs…

Electric FTW.

https://www.greenworkstools.com/coll...-rapid-charger

I have a Dewalt 20V, along with a collection of their tools of that format. Not enough balz to cut anything over 4" diameter. And I have no intention of having a second battery system.

20v and 80v are not comparable. That’s like comparing a Chevy Cruze to a C8

And more better.

good job Hop Sing ..looks like a toy ..not a real mans saw....but that's what you get from Japan \ /

Can you read?

Rent free, Himey. :Jeff '79:

Sure, what I can’t understand is why you’d buy a 20v system or chainsaw in the first place. 20v is fine for drills…not large tools.

I’d rather have a second battery than gas and two cycle oil stinking up my garage.

I like the idea of a tree trim blade for my 20V sawzall to do the little stuff. :seasix:

The 20v Dewalt is basically a one-handed saw; great for smallish branches or trees.

Modern gas equipment is sealed, so no stink, unless you don't maintain them. Plus TruFuel volatizes much less than regular gasoline.

I have a suite of 20v Dewalt tools; drill, 1/4" impact driver, 3/8" impact driver, drywall sander, 6-1/4" saw, weed eater, leaf blower, angle grinder, random orbital sander, 9" paint polisher.... And a heated jacket. :D

Yadkin's got this. Screw the naysayers. :)

I credit him with the sawzall idea. I have used it for that in the past but not with the tree specific blades. I will pick up a few soon. :cert:

Up to 1/4": hand shear
Up to 1": lopper
Up to 2" sawsall w/ tree blade
Up to 4" 20v chainsaw
>4" gas chainsaw

You mean the guys that don't own, never used a chainsaw? :Jeff '79:

:iagree:

As of today, I have no use for a chainsaw, but when I do, I know that Stihl is the way to go.

What if I got a branch that's 3.236" ?


https://i.imgur.com/6NdWTxX.gif

You musta flunked maffs. :D

The 881

Hell, they don't even go outside. Just sit on their asses banging away at the keyboard, trying to find fault with productive folk. :seasix:

Based on their extensive lack of content, you are likely correct-a-mundo. :seasix:

Aside from the weight advantage the Echo has this guide in case the chain comes off, and unlike the Stihl, is replaceable.

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As of today, I have no use for a P-51 Mustang, but when I do, I'm going to buy one that was built by North American. :seasix:

I know you ain't talk 'bout me...:beatup:

Florida man? Nah. :Jeff '79:

I made a wood holder to hang it on the wall out of the way. Blade up, so the gas and oil fills are less likely to leak.

Nice job. Looking at your Porsche box, check that wix filter to see where it's made. Some of their stuff is made in China now.

Looks like the same factory as the Mann. :seasix: