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slewfoot 03-12-2024 9:08pm

Establishing "The 4th Reich."
 
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ty/ar-BB1jHnGr

Donald Trump Jr. suggests MAGA is ‘the new Republican Party’


Donald Trump Jr. claimed his father's "Make America Great Again" movement and campaign is the new identity of the Republican Party.

Trump Jr. appeared on The Balance Saturday following Republican National Committee Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel stepping down from her position. Michael Whatley, the former chairman of the North Carolina GOP, replaced McDaniel. Whatley is joined by Trump’s daughter-in-law, Lara Trump, as co-chairperson, replacing former RNC co-leader Drew McKissick

"I think the RNC is gonna be a little bit more of that old-school establishment. That Republican Party frankly no longer exists outside of the D.C. Beltway. But it takes a little while to make that transition," Trump said.

“People have to understand that America First, the MAGA movement is the new Republican Party. That is conservatism today,"




https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/dona...y?id=105810745

There's no question that language echoes that Hitler used to describe his enemies, but there may have been some question about whether Trump knew he was using the same words Hitler used to justify his murderous and genocidal rule of Nazi Germany.

Now, after backlash that his words echoed Hitler's, however, there is no doubt.

"They said Hitler said that," Trump said Tuesday after he again told the crowd in Iowa that immigrants are "poisoning the blood" of America.

After insisting Hitler used the words "in a much different way," Trump went on to make the "blood" reference again. "It's true. They're destroying the blood of the country, they're destroying the fabric of our country, and we're going to have to get them out."


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ly/ar-BB1jH1Mp

Former President Donald Trump’s jaw-dropping praise for Nazi leader Adolph Hitler was revealed in new reporting via former Trump Chief of Staff John Kelly to CNN.

Trump has been taking flak from media figures and others for months over his use of language that these critics link to that of Adolf Hitler and other Nazi and fascist figures — particularly his use of the terms “vermin” and “poisoning the blood of our country.”

According to Kelly, Trump started by saying Hitler “did some good things” and went on from there:

“He said, ‘Well, but Hitler did some good things.’ I said, ‘Well, what?’ And he said, ‘Well, [Hitler] rebuilt the economy.’ But what did he do with that rebuilt economy? He turned it against his own people and against the world. And I said, ‘Sir, you can never say anything good about the guy. Nothing,’” Kelly recounted. “I mean, Mussolini was a great guy in comparison.”

“It’s pretty hard to believe he missed the Holocaust, though, and pretty hard to understand how he missed the 400,000 American GIs that were killed in the European theater,” Kelly told me. “But I think it’s more, again, the tough guy thing.”

Trump’s admiration for Hitler went further than the German leader’s economic policies, according to Kelly. Trump also expressed admiration for Hitler’s hold on senior Nazi officers. Trump lamented that Hitler, as Kelly recounted, maintained his senior staff’s “loyalty,” while Trump himself often did not.

“He would ask about the loyalty issues and about how, when I pointed out to him the German generals as a group were not loyal to him, and in fact tried to assassinate him a few times, and he didn’t know that,” Kelly recalled. “He truly believed, when he brought us generals in, that we would be loyal — that we would do anything he wanted us to do,” Kelly told me.

KenHorse 03-13-2024 8:51am

Good G-d, stop with the Nazi bullshit analogies already...

Aside from them being an absolute LIE with no basis in ANY fact, if you need to make such comparisons, it is Joe's Dementia and his Hate America Party who actually DO what your bullshit claims Trump does. There is tons and tons of PROOF of this whereas all your sources provide are supposition and some DNC wet dream fantasy, not to mention straight up projection

Jesus H..............

DJ_Critterus 03-13-2024 9:38am

You are so in lock-step with the MSM and DNC and it's ****ing pathetic. I never took you for being anything close to credible on the other site, nor do I give you the benefit of even the slightest doubt over here. You have no original or critical thinking skills and simply parrot what the your DNC high priests tell you to say.

Honestly, it's ****ing pathetic and you need to grow up.

Care to try finding faults with Joesama Bin Hiden? It's easy enough, but we all know you won't even reach for the low hanging fruit.

Louie Detroit 03-13-2024 9:48am

The fear of Trump is palpable here.

Aerovette 03-13-2024 10:08am

An absolute brain dead, moron with the inability to tie their own shoes, would be the only ones thinking his words mean the same as Hitlers.

One GLARING difference is that the Jews were not invading Germany.

Aerovette 03-13-2024 10:10am

Maybe the OP should use his own words and tell us what the article means. :Jeff '79:
Cutting a pasting the "Hit piece d'Jour" is easy. Explaining it most likely is not.

DJ_Critterus 03-13-2024 10:20am

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Originally Posted by Aerovette (Post 2231640)
Maybe the OP should use his own words and tell us what the article means. :Jeff '79:
Cutting a pasting the "Hit piece d'Jour" is easy. Explaining it most likely is not.

RIM used to do the cut, paste, and run tactic, too. What a ****ing *****.

Yadkin 03-13-2024 10:51am

One more reason to put Slowfoot on ignore. What a ****ing *****.

Vandelay Industries 03-13-2024 1:07pm

Not wasting my time reading that bullshit.

roadpilot 03-13-2024 2:13pm

I think the OP is right, sort of. It is not Pres. Trump who is moving closer
to Nazie rhetoric but the Democratic Party. What ever they claim Pres.
Trump is doing the Democrats have already done it.

Aerovette 03-13-2024 2:21pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by slewfoot (Post 2231492)

Former President Donald Trump’s jaw-dropping praise for Nazi leader Adolph Hitler


Trump’s admiration for Hitler

:funniest::funnier::rofl:

Torqaholic 03-13-2024 2:35pm

Ever wonder why only democrats seem to know exactly what Hitler said in a speech? It's because they've studied him as a method to steal away our freedoms and exercise total control over the people.

The censorship, propaganda, and racism are all red flags. Get a clue and wake up before it's too late to save yourself from the defenders of truth and liberty.

Louie Detroit 03-13-2024 2:41pm

Hitler would most likely have had a solution to the Liberal Question.

KenHorse 03-13-2024 3:21pm

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Originally Posted by Louie Detroit (Post 2231819)
Hitler would most likely have had a solution to the Liberal Question.

You do realize saying that makes you a Hitler lover and Nazi, right?

Aerovette 03-13-2024 3:35pm

I've heard more than once, that a vast amount of medical knowledge was gained from Nazi atrocities. That, in no way, is an endorsement, but it is a fact. Hitler was an effective leader. As was Khadafi and Castro. Methods be damned, desired results were achieved.

Louie Detroit 03-13-2024 4:16pm

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Originally Posted by KenHorse (Post 2231847)
You do realize saying that makes you a Hitler lover and Nazi, right?

Actually no, it doesn’t. I think Hitler was a ****ing maniac combined with being an effective leader. I don’t agree with what he did to Jews, Gypsies, Boy Scouts and JW’s, but in the case of communists, homosexuals and criminals he had it right. Liberals fit in perfectly with the second group of people I just mentioned.

Bill 03-13-2024 6:27pm

https://media.scored.co/post/XmjTXKLd2lH7.jpeg

KenHorse 03-13-2024 6:51pm

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Originally Posted by bill_daniels (Post 2231929)

There are a lot of ****ing morons in this country. And every damned one probably votes Commucrat

KenHorse 03-13-2024 6:52pm

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Originally Posted by Louie Detroit (Post 2231877)
Actually no, it doesn’t. I think Hitler was a ****ing maniac combined with being an effective leader. I don’t agree with what he did to Jews, Gypsies, Boy Scouts and JW’s, but in the case of communists, homosexuals and criminals he had it right. Liberals fit in perfectly with the second group of people I just mentioned.

Where's that sarcasm meter graphic when I need it?

Louie Detroit 03-13-2024 7:30pm

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Originally Posted by KenHorse (Post 2231936)
Where's that sarcasm meter graphic when I need it?

Hehe, I thought you were probably kidding but had to cover my bases.

Louie Detroit 03-13-2024 7:33pm

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Originally Posted by bill_daniels (Post 2231929)

Of course typical moronic liberal incapable of spelling Haiti correctly.

JRD77VET 03-13-2024 8:03pm

WOW! post and run away

How typical of a worthless TROLL

Vette40th 03-14-2024 6:09am

Hitler was an evil man. No doubt. But he did get many men to follow with precision.
But, why do the lefts only use him as an example, when they hate the Jews themselves?

Steve_R 03-14-2024 9:15am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vette40th (Post 2232030)
Hitler was an evil man. No doubt. But he did get many men to follow with precision.
But, why do the lefts only use him as an example, when they hate the Jews themselves?


Because most liberals are hypocrites. They epitomize "Do as I say, not as I do."

Aerovette 03-14-2024 9:22am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve_R (Post 2232085)
Because most liberals are hypocrites. They epitomize "Do as I say, not as I do."

Even MORE than that is that liberals are such Sheople and Karens, they would have jumped at the chance to follow the herd and turn in the Jews that were hiding.

Proof? COVID !!!

Libs did everything they were told by "Der Leaders" Fauci/Brix/Newsom/Biden/CDC/WHO.

Chemtrails99 03-22-2024 12:17am

Did nobody study 20th century world history in school? Why do leftists ignore the fact that National Socialists WERE THE LEFT SAME AS THEM??????

Yadkin 03-22-2024 7:03am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chemtrails99 (Post 2235405)
Did nobody study 20th century world history in school? Why do leftists ignore the fact that National Socialists WERE THE LEFT SAME AS THEM??????

Ignore? They deny, and claim that Nazis were conservative.

Vette40th 03-22-2024 7:22am

Its deeper than history lessons.
Our country is dying due to weak men. Period.

Onebadcad 03-22-2024 12:43pm

The VB needs to have a dislike button, which tallies to a point where bans are meted out.
This dood would never last more than a few hours after each return.

Taurus 03-22-2024 6:51pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onebadcad (Post 2235634)
The VB needs to have a dislike button, which tallies to a point where bans are meted out.
This dood would never last more than a few hours after each return.

So to be clear, you would like the group to have the ability to drown out opinions and beliefs different of their own. Interesting on a thread about the 4th Reich.

https://www.thevettebarn.com/forums/...pictureid=3978

KenHorse 03-22-2024 7:05pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taurus (Post 2235827)
So to be clear, you would like the group to have the ability to drown out opinions and beliefs different of their own. Interesting on a thread about the 4th Reich.

https://www.thevettebarn.com/forums/...pictureid=3978

You upset about Commucrat tactics being applied to you?

m and t's77 03-22-2024 7:05pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aerovette (Post 2231852)
I've heard more than once, that a vast amount of medical knowledge was gained from Nazi atrocities. That, in no way, is an endorsement, but it is a fact. Hitler was an effective leader. As was Khadafi and Castro. Methods be damned, desired results were achieved.

Endless at the time "volunteers".


Taurus 03-22-2024 7:12pm

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Originally Posted by KenHorse (Post 2235829)
You upset about Commucrat tactics being applied to you?

Nope, just folks thinking it's OK to do so in America. I don't care which side they're on but your case of "but they do it too" makes it OK I suppose.

KenHorse 03-22-2024 7:25pm

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Originally Posted by Taurus (Post 2235831)
Nope, just folks thinking it's OK to do so in America. I don't care which side they're on but your case of "but they do it too" makes it OK I suppose.

That's not my argument but in case you haven't noticed, we are in the middle of a serious culture war in this country. And culture = country.

One doesn't win a war by playing nice. The Comms figured that out long ago. The GOPe, being the "Go along to get along Party", not so much

Taurus 03-22-2024 7:43pm

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Originally Posted by KenHorse (Post 2235834)
That's not my argument but in case you haven't noticed, we are in the middle of a serious culture war in this country. And culture = country.

One doesn't win a war by playing nice. The Comms figured that out long ago. The GOPe, being the "Go along to get along Party", not so much

Ken, that was exactly the point you were making. You do realize that after the election no matter who wins nothing will have changed. Half the country will be happy and the other half will be pissed and rocking the boat for the next 4 years. That's what we have today and it's what we're going to have in January. Who's going to win this culture war? How is it going to be won? It's not going to happen in this cycle, no way shape or form. MAGA will be MAGA, Trump will either win or lose. All MAGA wants is revenge and to stand on a pile of dead dems. All the libs want is to exnihilate MAGA. Nothing will change in January 2025 no matter who wins.

Look at the right, they can't get out of their own way. You have Greene trying to oust Speaker Johnson and another house Republican leaving in 2 weeks taking the majority down to one single seat, what a cluster. The party is imploding and if you think for a minute that these republican members of congress that are resigning are not doing it strategically at this point in time to stick it to MAGA you're not looking very hard. All this nonstop BS from the right is making it easy for the left, how will that win the culture war?

The only way the culture war gets any better is in a grass roots effort. Stop accepting horribly flawed candidates and start holding them all accountable.

Good posting with you.

Vette40th 03-22-2024 8:25pm

The culture war has been in the making for over 70 years, easily. The Conservatives havent fought back, because nothing was painful. Now it is starting to be painful, and some on the left are feeling it.
If Trump gets in, it will be a breather for 4 years, maybe.. After that, we need a great uniter. Someone that can truly reach across this country and get everyone onboard to get back to reality. Budgets, 2 genders, Constitution, etc. So many things.

Torqaholic 03-25-2024 9:28pm

BTW, it would have to be the Fifth Reich because the Fourth Reich has already come and gone. Just sayin :D


Vette40th 03-26-2024 5:10am

^ Many Germans fled Germany and successfully set up camp in Brazil, Argentina, USA, France, England and Spain. I am sure many other places.. They have been playing the log game, and are doing quite well at succeeding.

JRD77VET 03-26-2024 7:46pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vette40th (Post 2237140)
^ Many Germans fled Germany and successfully set up camp in Brazil, Argentina, USA, France, England and Spain. I am sure many other places.. They have been playing the log game, and are doing quite well at succeeding.

long

DJ_Critterus 03-27-2024 7:33am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chemtrails99 (Post 2235405)
Did nobody study 20th century world history in school? Why do leftists ignore the fact that National Socialists WERE THE LEFT SAME AS THEM??????

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yadkin (Post 2235431)
Ignore? They deny, and claim that Nazis were conservative.

The leftists rewrote history and that's what the brain washed sheeple are parroting ad nauseam. My personal thoughts on this matter are they should all be rounded up and shot. There's no saving them...the ignorant and stupid along with those with obvious nefarious intentions.

BayouCountry 03-27-2024 9:02am

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Originally Posted by Yadkin (Post 2231667)
One more reason to put Slowfoot on ignore. What a ****ing *****.

Guess who is the only one on my ignore list? The thread emphasizes why.

Swany00 03-27-2024 10:35am

he just dropped that off to piss everyone off

Raazor 03-27-2024 11:55am

It's going to be fun to watch the Snowflakes meltdown when Trump is reelected.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...370&fit=bounds

Raazor 03-27-2024 12:07pm

Ignore function breaks Rule #3. Don't use it.

slewfoot 05-21-2024 8:16am

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other...d=BingNewsSerp


And here it is again. So much for the Jewish vote.

Tikiman 05-21-2024 9:20am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aerovette (Post 2232087)
Even MORE than that is that liberals are such Sheople and Karens, they would have jumped at the chance to follow the herd and turn in the Jews that were hiding.

Proof? COVID !!!

Libs did everything they were told by "Der Leaders" Fauci/Brix/Newsom/Biden/CDC/WHO.


That's because there is an unwritten rule that says that to be a liberal you must have an IQ below 70. The television told them the experimental injections would make them "virtuous" and I've never met a lib yet who wasn't all about virtue signaling.

LATB 05-21-2024 10:30am

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Originally Posted by slewfoot (Post 2265345)
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other...d=BingNewsSerp


And here it is again. So much for the Jewish vote.

:rolleyes:
Quote:

Karoline Leavitt, a Trump campaign spokesperson, said in a statement that the video was not created by the campaign and was “reposted by a staffer who clearly did not see the word, while the President was in court.”

KenHorse 05-21-2024 11:02am

Quote:

Originally Posted by slewfoot (Post 2265345)
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other...d=BingNewsSerp


And here it is again. So much for the Jewish vote.

You just never learn, do ya?

DJ_Critterus 05-21-2024 11:46am

This thread simply shows how much of a libtard Slew actually is. He refers to Trump as Hitler and anyone supporting him as a Nazi, but he doesn't even know what hitler or nazis were like. Typical liberal ignoring actual, REAL, DOCUMENTED history and repeats the assinine shit he's told to parrot by the MSM.

Typical Slew post. I am very sad to know that he votes...and in lib fashion... probably more than once each election.

KenHorse 05-21-2024 1:54pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ_Critterus (Post 2265472)
This thread simply shows how much of a libtard Slew actually is. He refers to Trump as Hitler and anyone supporting him as a Nazi, but he doesn't even know what hitler or nazis were like. Typical liberal ignoring actual, REAL, DOCUMENTED history and repeats the assinine shit he's told to parrot by the MSM.

Typical Slew post. I am very sad to know that he votes...and in lib fashion... probably more than once each election.

One has to wonder how anyone could have a belief system that is so easily and succinctly proven to be false, not to mention claims they make are likewise easily proven to be false too.

Of course, they also NEVER defend their position. NEVER

Vandelay Industries 05-21-2024 2:22pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by KenHorse (Post 2265451)
You just never learn, do ya?

Surely that's a rhetorical question.

LATB 05-21-2024 2:32pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by KenHorse (Post 2265451)
You just never learn, do ya?

He voted for Biden and after the catastrophic past 3 years he will again. I can not understand why.

KenHorse 05-21-2024 5:31pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by slewfoot (Post 2265345)
And here it is again. So much for the Jewish vote.


Yea? So who they gonna vote for? Israel-hating Commucrats, led by Der Fuhrer Biden?

SurfnSun 05-21-2024 9:44pm

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@slewfoot Wake me up when Trump starts killing Jews….until then quit being a complete moron with this Hilter crap.

The Left are the true fascists… if actually you knew and understood the meaning of the word, you would understand why. Go get a dictionary and a history book and quit making yourself look as stupid as the rest of the leftist idiots.

Since the left is obsessed with Nazis, let’s look at how the two compare.

Tikiman 05-22-2024 8:32am

Quote:

Originally Posted by KenHorse (Post 2265572)
One has to wonder how anyone could have a belief system that is so easily and succinctly proven to be false, not to mention claims they make are likewise easily proven to be false too.

Of course, they also NEVER defend their position. NEVER


They get all their talking points from the corrupt mainstream media. The same media that is hemorrhaging viewers because everybody knows it is all leftist propaganda. Only the most ardent retards are still hanging on every word from them. More people are tuning into bad cooking shows than CNN these days.

Tikiman 05-22-2024 8:34am

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Originally Posted by SurfnSun (Post 2265848)
@slewfoot Wake me up when Trump starts killing Jews….until then quit being a complete moron with this Hilter crap.

The Left are the true fascists… if actually you knew and understood the meaning of the word, you would understand why. Go get a dictionary and a history book and quit making yourself look as stupid as the rest of the leftist idiots.

Since the left is obsessed with Nazis, let’s look at how the two compare.


Exactly correct. :yesnod:


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