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Aerovette 02-16-2024 3:49pm

Trump gets the shaft again
 
$354M owed in his fraud case.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...ron-rcna135283

Complete and utter bullshit.

He should sell MarLago for 426 million and file an appeal.

Rob 02-16-2024 3:57pm

who cares... no money will ever exchange hands

Aerovette 02-16-2024 4:00pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob (Post 2219529)
who cares... no money will ever exchange hands

Yeah, I'm afraid it will.

In addition, he and his sons cannot be executives of any business in New York for three years.

04 commemorative 02-16-2024 4:06pm

Judge should be wacked

Bill 02-16-2024 4:06pm

He will have to post an appeal bond, no doubt, while the case is appealed, and I'm sure he doesn't have that much sitting in a checking account, especially given the tens of millions he's having to shell out for defense lawyers. I'm assuming the $ 88M to the crazy cat lady is also having to be put in some kind of escrow, pending appeal. This is all just tying up his cash and forcing him to churn through more defending against this lawfare.

GTOguy 02-16-2024 4:10pm

Anything those morally bankrupt, treasonous, despicable mother****ers can come up with the keep Trump out of the White House, they'll do.

Ten years ago, I had faith in the American Justice System. The FBI had my support. I saw hope for America.

We are at our Alamo, guys. Like it or not, this is it.

Swany00 02-16-2024 4:18pm

we're living in ****ed up times

Jeff '79 02-16-2024 5:04pm

Utter bullshit ???
You screw everyone you do business with, you'll eventually go down.
He'll need to put up a!most a half a billion to appeal the ruling.
He ain't got it !!!
LOSING :lol:

BayouCountry 02-16-2024 5:09pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTOguy (Post 2219534)
Anything those morally bankrupt, treasonous, despicable mother****ers can come up with the keep Trump out of the White House, they'll do.

Ten years ago, I had faith in the American Justice System. The FBI had my support. I saw hope for America.

We are at our Alamo, guys. Like it or not, this is it.

They can’t make any criminal charges stick so they go after his assets. Politics at its worst.

Jeff '79 02-16-2024 5:10pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BayouCountry (Post 2219558)
They can’t make any criminal charges stick so they go after his assets. Politics at its worst.

Kinda like All Capone. Another American hero.

slewfoot 02-16-2024 5:10pm

Guess he is going to up his donation game to pay for it.

MY03C5Z 02-16-2024 5:20pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob (Post 2219529)
who cares... no money will ever exchange hands


His lawyers are already appealing it, he’ll probably end up paying 10% of that absolutely ridiculous amount.

Jeff '79 02-16-2024 5:22pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by MY03C5Z (Post 2219570)
His lawyers are already appealing it, he’ll probably end up paying 10% of that absolutely ridiculous amount.

Ya right !!! :lol:
There has been no appeal announcement yet.

Mick 02-16-2024 5:23pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff '79 (Post 2219554)
Utter bullshit ???
You screw everyone you do business with, you'll eventually go down.
He'll need to put up a!most a half a billion to appeal the ruling.
He ain't got it !!!
LOSING :lol:

Who did he "screw" here? Prosecution conceded weeks ago that ALL of the loans included in this case were either previously paid in full, or are presently current on payments.

GTOguy 02-16-2024 5:25pm

Trump should pull all of his business out of NY and move it to Florida or Texas. And watch NY lose all of that income tax money. THAT would be what I would do if I were him. Hit those evil POS's in the wallet. Hard.

slewfoot 02-16-2024 5:25pm

Making Appeals Great Again

GTOguy 02-16-2024 5:28pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 2219576)
Who did he "screw" here? Prosecution conceded weeks ago that ALL of the loans included in this case were either previously paid in full, or are presently current on payments.

Agree. No victims here, except Trump himself. What's next? You or I getting fined $100,000 because we over-estimated our income on a car loan but paid it off no problem anyway?

Trump didn't default anybody. Nobody lost any money. This is a pure, fabricated witch hunt with no more validity than "January 6' or "Russian Collusion". All horseshit. And you know what? Trump now has more support than EVER.

LATB 02-16-2024 5:28pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTOguy (Post 2219577)
Trump should pull all of his business out of NY and move it to Florida or Texas. And watch NY lose all of that income tax money. THAT would be what I would do if I were him. Hit those evil POS's in the wallet. Hard.

Funny that there are several properties with the TRUMP name on them that he doesn't own. That has to grind their gears. :rofl:

Jeff '79 02-16-2024 5:29pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 2219576)
Who did he "screw" here? Prosecution conceded weeks ago that ALL of the loans included in this case were either previously paid in full, or are presently current on payments.

Uhhh, the people of NYS ?
Did you read the warrant ?

GTOguy 02-16-2024 5:33pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff '79 (Post 2219582)
Uhhh, the people of NYS ?
Did you read the warrant ?

TDS much?:)

Bill 02-16-2024 5:37pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff '79 (Post 2219582)
Uhhh, the people of NYS ?
Did you read the warrant ?

I'm assuming the people of NYS were deprived of their "rightful" state income taxes, because Trump "should" have paid higher interest rates on loans?

What I can't figure out about that logic is, if Trump paid LESS interest, then he must have made MOAR profit, meaning, MOAR state income taxes paid by Trump.

Well, let's look at it the other way. Trump should have paid more interest to the banks, and thus the banks made less money then they should have, and thus, underpaid income taxes. Have I got this theory right?

Assuming Trump "should have" paid higher interest rates, then isn't this a push? Even under homegirl Letitia's theory of "the crime," I can't see how the taxpayers of NYS were adversely effected.

Jeff '79 02-16-2024 5:38pm

Who here will send your $5 to help the Trump defense fund?
Who here will send their $5 to the Biden crime family ?
:lol:
Suckers !!!

The_Dude 02-16-2024 5:38pm

Lawyers will do well. Really doesn't matter to anyone else. No one is going to base their vote on this decision. Trump will appeal and if he loses, he'll use bankruptcy.

99 pewtercoupe 02-16-2024 5:43pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff '79 (Post 2219582)
Uhhh, the people of NYS ?
Did you read the warrant ?

I may not be up on all the details so please elaborate on what damages the citizens of NYS suffered.

Aerovette 02-16-2024 5:46pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff '79 (Post 2219560)
Kinda like All Capone. Another American hero.

Glad you're active. With Taurus on sabbatical, we were one political idiot short.

Jeff '79 02-16-2024 5:54pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aerovette (Post 2219595)
Glad you're active. With Taurus on sabbatical, we were one political idiot short.

Speaking of political idiots :lol:
How does losing feel to you?
The base must feel really comfortable right now.
Ya right

Steve_R 02-16-2024 5:58pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by 99 pewtercoupe (Post 2219592)
I may not be up on all the details so please elaborate on what damages the citizens of NYS suffered.

:popcorns:

Jeff '79 02-16-2024 6:01pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve_R (Post 2219610)
:popcorns:

So lying and cheating for financial gain is ok with everyone here.
Alrighty then.

Bill 02-16-2024 6:01pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve_R (Post 2219610)
:popcorns:

:popcorns: :popcorns:

Bill 02-16-2024 6:02pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff '79 (Post 2219612)
So lying and cheating for financial gain is ok with everyone here.
Alrighty then.

Have you been following the homegirl Fani saga down in Jawja?

Jeff '79 02-16-2024 6:04pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bill_daniels (Post 2219615)
Have you been following the homegirl Fani saga down in Jawja?

:lol:
That's peanuts to the half a billion that he just lost.
Great entertainment though:yesnod:

LATB 02-16-2024 6:05pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bill_daniels (Post 2219615)
Have you been following the homegirl Fani saga down in Jawja?

Notice how the forum lib idiots avoid threads like that one. :Jeff '79:

99 pewtercoupe 02-16-2024 6:05pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff '79 (Post 2219612)
So lying and cheating for financial gain is ok with everyone here.
Alrighty then.

That doesn’t answer my question. Please specify how NYS citizens suffered real damages from this.

Steve_R 02-16-2024 6:06pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff '79 (Post 2219612)
So lying and cheating for financial gain is ok with everyone here.
Alrighty then.

Just admit you can’t answer the question. We’d respect that more than your TDS lies and deflection.

Jeff '79 02-16-2024 6:07pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by 99 pewtercoupe (Post 2219620)
That doesn’t answer my question. Please specify how NYS citizens suffered real damages from this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve_R (Post 2219621)
Just admit you can’t answer the question. We’d respect that more than your TDS lies and deflection.

You guys are smarter than that. Are you serious?

Mick 02-16-2024 6:08pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by 99 pewtercoupe (Post 2219592)
I may not be up on all the details so please elaborate on what damages the citizens of NYS suffered.

Prosecution also admitted weeks ago that there "was no victim of his fraud", but continued on anyway because they said that although no criminal charges could be filed without a victim, a civil case could still be pursued under NY law.

I'm not a lawyer, so I don't have any expertise here. But I have been to civil court numerous times, and it is all about compensating those who were "wronged" by someone else's non-criminal wrongdoing. I have yet to see to whom Trump is to pay these hundreds of millions of dollars for him having wronged them. :shrug:

Also without a legal background, I'm wondering why the judge can prevent Trump from doing business in NYS for 3 years when he has apparently not committed any crimes. :shrug:

This is the kind of shit you get when you elect a DA on a "Get Trump" ticket. Stalin and Beria are smiling wherever they are. :yesnod:

Steve_R 02-16-2024 6:08pm

And yet more deflection. Color me shocked.

Bill 02-16-2024 6:11pm

Trump responds: Live now
 
https://www.youtube.com/live/xvKRPQbfeP4?app=desktop

Jeff '79 02-16-2024 6:12pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bill_daniels (Post 2219632)

The shuck is such a joke

Aerovette 02-16-2024 6:12pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff '79 (Post 2219612)
So lying and cheating for financial gain is ok with everyone here.
Alrighty then.

Link to lies or cheating in this case.

Aerovette 02-16-2024 6:14pm

Careful, this is no ordinary political 'tard. He's gone Pro during his absence.

Jeff '79 02-16-2024 6:17pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aerovette (Post 2219637)
Link to lies or cheating in this case.

Google is your friend, but stating your apartment is 30k sqft when it's really 9300 sqft on a financial doc is lying and cheating.
What am I? Your personal bitch ?

BayouCountry 02-16-2024 6:21pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff '79 (Post 2219560)
Kinda like All Capone. Another American hero.

Can’t take you seriously with comments like that. How many people did Trump kill?

Name some names of people Trump screwed in business? Most lawsuits were filed by Trumps attorneys against people screwing him. Big business goes back and forth with someone always getting the shot end of a deal.

This kind of shit, Trump is a racist, Trump is a Nazi, Trump is … shows you have nothing but TDS.

Do you think the judiciary can’t use the same tactics against one of your family members? Wake up!

Onebadcad 02-16-2024 6:22pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff '79 (Post 2219642)
Google is your friend, but stating your apartment is 30k sqft when it's really 9300 sqft on a financial doc is lying and cheating.
What am I? Your personal bitch ?

Are you rimjob from prc??

99 pewtercoupe 02-16-2024 6:23pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff '79 (Post 2219642)
Google is your friend, but stating your apartment is 30k sqft when it's really 9300 sqft on a financial doc is lying and cheating.
What am I? Your personal bitch ?

So who was hurt? None of the banks involved claimed they lost any money on the loans. When you or I apply for a loan don’t the banks do their own due diligence?

Let me be clear. I am not a Trump fan. I have serious concerns about him but this particular case is nothing but what is being called lawfare. Use of dubious legal tactics to remove a political opponent

Bill 02-16-2024 6:26pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff '79 (Post 2219623)
You guys are smarter than that. Are you serious?

We're NOT smarter than that. Explain it like we are 5 years old. How did NYS lose any income tax revenue?

I'd have an easier time making the case that everyone who protests their property tax appraisals is committing the crime of defrauding the people of their respective states.

When I go to the appraiser's office and they say my house is worth $ 100, but I say it's only worth $ 80, then I'm attempting to take money away from my fellow citizens by arguing what the value is, so I will pay less tax.

Arguing about income tax....I can't see how that's anything but a push. If Trump was supposed to pay more, then the banks would have paid less.....a push.

So go ahead, explain it to us, and then explain why every one of us isn't guilty of this same crime, if we protested the value of our properties.

Onebadcad 02-16-2024 6:27pm

Those who agree with this no longer embrace our individual rights.
They are fine with biased courts doling out record-breaking judgments for no reason other than political ends.
Expect any future court judgments against TRUMP to be in the quadzillions.

Onebadcad 02-16-2024 6:28pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff '79 (Post 2219642)
Google is your friend, but stating your apartment is 30k sqft when it's really 9300 sqft on a financial doc is lying and cheating.
What am I? Your personal bitch ?

You will be SOON

Jeff '79 02-16-2024 6:40pm

LOSING !!!
Y'ALL apparently love following the loser.
That would make you all.... LOSERS !!!
Enjoy :bigears:
MAGA
My Ass Gapes Again

Vandelay Industries 02-16-2024 6:43pm

So predictable. :lol:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vandelay Industries (Post 2219241)
They'll be in once the judge in NY fines Trump 800 million billion trillion dollars. :yesnod:


Onebadcad 02-16-2024 6:50pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff '79 (Post 2219665)
MAGA
My Ass Gapes Again

TPFF
too personal for forum

Jeff '79 02-16-2024 6:52pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onebadcad (Post 2219667)
TPFF
too personal for forum

WoW !!! A bone a fide Trump U grad

99 pewtercoupe 02-16-2024 7:04pm

OK, I have asked three times for Jeff to provide specific information how NYS citizens were harmed by Trumps loan applications and he hasn’t answered with any facts. He just keeps throwing up (regurgitating) the Dem talking points
I’m done

Jeff '79 02-16-2024 7:07pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by 99 pewtercoupe (Post 2219673)
OK, I have asked three times for Jeff to provide specific information how NYS citizens were harmed by Trumps loan applications and he hasn’t answered with any facts. He just keeps throwing up (regurgitating) the Dem talking points
I’m done

Oh.. Sorry.
Still LOSING
I can't find any either !!! :rofl:

99 pewtercoupe 02-16-2024 7:29pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff '79 (Post 2219677)
Oh.. Sorry.
Still LOSING
I can't find any either !!! :rofl:

I believe this post just proves that you are nothing but a troll. I have heard you called that before many times but was willing to give you an opportunity to give a cogent explanation of your prior post. Unfortunately it appears that you (and our current POTUS) are both incapable of that. Have fun with your trolling but I will not be responding to any more of your posts

Mick 02-16-2024 7:41pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by 99 pewtercoupe (Post 2219673)
OK, I have asked three times for Jeff to provide specific information how NYS citizens were harmed by Trumps loan applications and he hasn’t answered with any facts. He just keeps throwing up (regurgitating) the Dem talking points
I’m done

Yeah, he came back more annoying than before. :yawn:

Jeff '79 02-16-2024 7:42pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by 99 pewtercoupe (Post 2219685)
I believe this post just proves that you are nothing but a troll. I have heard you called that before many times but was willing to give you an opportunity to give a cogent explanation of your prior post. Unfortunately it appears that you (and our current POTUS) are both incapable of that. Have fun with your trolling but I will not be responding to any more of your posts

That's the problem with you cultitsts.
Reality is non existant.

slewfoot 02-16-2024 7:46pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by slewfoot (Post 2219561)
Guess he is going to up his donation game to pay for it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by slewfoot (Post 2219578)
Making Appeals Great Again

Quote:

Originally Posted by LATB (Post 2219619)
Notice how the forum lib idiots avoid threads like that one. :Jeff '79:



Yeh, I noticed.

Jeff '79 02-16-2024 7:47pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by slewfoot (Post 2219697)
Yeh, I noticed.

"Yea"

slewfoot 02-16-2024 7:52pm

"This is a very very sad day for our country!" :rofl:

slewfoot 02-16-2024 7:56pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by 99 pewtercoupe (Post 2219685)
I believe this post just proves that you are nothing but a troll. I have heard you called that before many times but was willing to give you an opportunity to give a cogent explanation of your prior post. Unfortunately it appears that you (and our current POTUS) are both incapable of that. Have fun with your trolling but I will not be responding to any more of your posts

Does this statement solidify VB as a far right wing site which opposes any objective opinions as trolling?

KenHorse 02-16-2024 7:57pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by slewfoot (Post 2219704)
Does this statement solidify VB as a far right wing site which opposes any objective opinions as trolling?

Well...considering your avatar is a complete lie, I think you speak volumes without even responding....

Jeff '79 02-16-2024 7:58pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by slewfoot (Post 2219704)
Does this statement solidify VB as a far right wing site which opposes any objective opinions as trolling?

Ya think ? :lol:

99 pewtercoupe 02-16-2024 8:03pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by slewfoot (Post 2219704)
Does this statement solidify VB as a far right wing site which opposes any objective opinions as trolling?

No. It means that despite me asking Jeff three times to show where NYC citizens suffered damages by Trumps actions all he did was deflect rather than cite any actual evidence. Are you going to step up and cite how he caused damage to the people of NY?

As I stated in a prior post, I am not a Trump fan but this particular case is political lawfare being conducted by a DA with a political agenda

Steve_R 02-16-2024 8:13pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by slewfoot (Post 2219704)
Does this statement solidify VB as a far right wing site which opposes any objective opinions as trolling?


Point out the objective opinions in any of Jeffy’s posts in this thread. We’ll wait while you look.

Hint: There aren’t any.

VatorMan 02-16-2024 8:17pm

Ok. You are right. My life won’t change for this judgement. But, Trump funded a lot of growth for NYC. Which in turn funds union workers that pay taxes.

I’ll put it this way. If I had a lot of $$ I’d think twice about doing business in NY.

Bill 02-16-2024 8:20pm


LATB 02-16-2024 8:50pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onebadcad (Post 2219646)
Are you rimjob from prc??

Worse. RIM was an unapologetic leftist not one who hides behind “moderate republican”.

Aerovette 02-16-2024 8:57pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by slewfoot (Post 2219704)
Does this statement solidify VB as a far right wing site which opposes any objective opinions as trolling?

No,but it illustrates how shitballs are dealt with. Has less to do with politics and more to do with shitballs. :seasix:

The lesson: Go ahead and be a Democrat and/or a liberal. Don't be a shitball.

LATB 02-16-2024 9:08pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aerovette (Post 2219738)
No,but it illustrates how shitballs are dealt with. Has less to do with politics and more to do with shitballs. :seasix:

The lesson: Go ahead and be a Democrat and/or a liberal. Don't be a shitball.

There are liberals and democrats who are not shitballs?

KenHorse 02-16-2024 9:47pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by LATB (Post 2219744)
There are liberals and democrats who are not shitballs?

Liberals? Sure, plenty are fine people (Alan Dersherwitz comes to mind).

Remember, your typical modern day Commucrat is NOT A LIBERAL

LATB 02-16-2024 10:09pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by KenHorse (Post 2219759)
Liberals? Sure, plenty are fine people (Alan Dersherwitz comes to mind).

Remember, your typical modern day Commucrat is NOT A LIBERAL

I can agree.


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