California is a failed state
 

I've been here all my life. I was born in San Diego in 1955. I recently moved from southern CA to northern CA in 2015. I found this article interesting. I can't believe that idiot voters made this clown governor, after what he did in Frisco as mayor. I beautiful city turned into a shit city in just a few decades of democrat rule. I hope that the citizens of this state WAKE THE **** UP and realize that the only way to go back to a safe and effective CA is to vote out all the left wing trash in this political landscape. Will it happen? I doubt it, but maybe a miracle on ice in 1980 against the Russians will happen in this next voting cycle.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...mn/5645176002/

Never happen. I don’t understand why non-liberals continue to live there.

Only three states I have never visited. The Dakotas and California.

I look forward to seeing the Dakota’s one day.

Fargo is cold in winter, do not recommend.

Badlands are cool though. be sure to visit Wall Drug.

Talk about a tourist trap out in the middle of no damn where!!!:rofl:

You got that right! :D Did get a trinket or two there.

I'm not sure what the hell I was expecting out of that place, but they sure had a lot of junk. Me and a couple of Air Force buddies went there back in 2001 when we were at Ellsworth AFB (right outside Rapid City) for a B-1B course. On the weekends, we ran that place ragged, and tried to make it to everywhere that counted.:seasix:

My wife and I used to visit wine country in CA yearly, mainly the Napa and Sonoma areas. I'd visit my sister in SoCal and later when she moved to Palm Springs. We also typically stayed at least one week every summer in Chicago, renting a condo out near the Mag Mile, sometimes just a single bedroom, sometimes we'd have a crowd and rent a 3-4 bedroom unit. It was always great, and I truly enjoyed vacationing at these destinations. We'd spend plenty on each of these trips, and met many great people there.

Now my sister has moved from Palm Springs to Las Vegas because of the insane taxes and other insanity there. We have no plans on going back to wine country any time soon, mainly because CA seems to have gone insane and they are decimating the businesses there. And seriously, **** Chicago. They stopped letting people rent condos for less than a month at a time a decade ago or so, and now that I truly have written off the MLB and NFL experience, no more reason to go there period. We used to love catching a Cubs game during the afternoon, and maybe if we timed it right catch a Bears game on game 2 or so. The Air and Water show was always fun. But seriously, **** Chicago now. Never again.

Congrats democrats!

I was stationed in San Diego from 1984-1989 and then Monterey from 1989-1991. I loved it while I was there, but I am so glad that I left after that... We loved to go San Fran, the wine country and other places,,,, but with the mess they have made of such a beautiful state, I have no desire to go back... I think I'd rather go to Mexico at this point rather than Ca.....

The Bay Area was a beautiful place when I lived there in the 80s. They actually like military and politics wasn’t everything.

Now the place is waterless wasteland. Sooner or later, N. California will shut down the aqueduct running south. Then the SHTF big time.

the local tourist trap is just south of me: Clines Corners. intersection of US 285 and I-40. if they don't have it, you don't need it.

little history: http://www.clinescorners.com/history.html

One of the most beautiful views I ever saw.....

Crossing the Arizona border on my way to Texas and seeing California in my rear view mirror. And this was over 25 years ago.

Los Angeles was THE place to be in the 1980's. I had more fun than I deserved and never gave leaving a thought. The people who ruined California should be guillotined.

Grew up in So Cal and never dreamed I'd move away...

Then life came and I had the opportunity to live in a few other places around the US. Then life came again and I've spent the last three years back in CA. At least I live in the South Bay where the weather is great and the beach is just a walk.

Having said that, I'm counting the days until the end of the year when I will retire and get out of this F'd up state. Herr Newsom is running unchecked in emergency status and Garcetti is following his lead in spades. It's a complete sh*t show because both of them seem to be drunk with power and control.

I can't wait for them to come after me to tax my departure and retirement:rofl: The state actually tried this when I got out of the military and left CA the first time; sent me a letter asking me to file in CA:rofl: F'ing tools.

Fargo is a very cool nice clean city lots to do. We lived there in the early 80s but moved to the Twin cities have been living here until retirement 10 years ago. Winter now in AZ. Just now thinking we might consider moving out of Twin cities getting to goofy here - and have a summer home in Fargo instead. Just big enough to have the cool bars, restaurants, breweries and close to lake country in MN. And Conservative.

Just shows that any state the dems control becomes a shit hole.

I can't believe USSR today actually published that!

Have you heard the parable about the frog in the pot of boiling water? :popcorns:

I would never live there.

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You do realize that posts like these make every Californian extremely happy? Each one represents one less undesirable who would otherwise be overcrowding our lovely state. :thumbs:

Just got this from my daughter. Maybe this guy can win for governor in 2022 to replace Gavan "Nuisance".

https://majorforgovernor.com/
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Growing up I thought CA would be a wonderful place...a dream state to live in. The music, movies, beach, etc...I bought into the Beach Boys, American Graffiti, etc..

My relatives settled near Redondo Beach, after WW2. We visited with them in the late '70s. I was only there a week, but, enjoyed the tourist stuff. I enjoyed the vaca...but, thought...what a disappointment. Too crowded for me. Decades later I had to go on .biz trips to SF, Newport Beach, Palm Springs, and nearby areas. Short stays, enjoyed the trips, but still thought I could never live there like I thought about when growing up.

I grew up in San Jose. Joined the Navy and was stationed at NAS Lemoore Ca. California tried to say I was going to have to pay state income tax on my military retirement even if I did not live in California anymore. They wanted to tax the portion I earned while stationed in California regardless of my state residency. That's when I decided I wouldn't be moving back there. Buncha money grubbing thieves. :yesnod:

All I see is " Ribbit, ribit ribit, ribbit ribit ribbit.

Says the frog.:yesnod:

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You might want to re-visit that repair.

I think it should end with "our lovely needle strewn, shit covered streets"

My sister was stationed at NAS Lemoore from 94-97. :cheers:

California passes SB 145

I was there from 82-85. I have not lived in Ca. since then, although I do have family there.

So an 18 yo can sleep with an 8 yo? BRILLIANT!

just wait for CA SB 146; elderly men can sniff and grope children (if he's a democrat).

We fled San Diego in '06 and don't miss it one bit. I loved growing up there, but when I had to start "adulting," stuff got real. I found that I was angry - A LOT! I found true peace here in Texas. We went back last year for a few days and it only confirmed that we made the right decision. Also, if I thought I was angry before, I would probably have gone true postal if I had to live under that Newsom clown. Also, they might actually get Prop. 13 repealed this time, that's really scary.

I agree with both of those. I remember the exact moment I crossed into AZ with my most important belongings knowing I would probably never return, and how happy that made me. It's such a shame, it was absolute bliss being a kid there.

If that happens I'm out.

What is Prop 13? :bigears:

It is a constitutional amendment passed back in the 70s which limits the amount of property tax the State can assess to (I think) 1 percent of the current appraised value.

Prop 13 limited the rise in assessed value of properties for taxation purposes. There were cases where long-term resident were being taxed out of their homes, even when they had tiny mortgages. Assessments can be adjusted when the property is sold or rebuilt. While this seems good in general, it has driven all sorts of weird behavior; transfer of properties for the 55 plus crowd, remodels that leave a single element in place but totally change the rest of the property, and others.

At some point, there will be more renters than owners in the state, and the law will almost certainly be repealed. There are some throttles on any likely repeal, but nothing like the current 2% max in place that was based on 1976 value, or at the time of build if after 1978. I believe the initiative this year is against commercial/industrial properties of a minimum value, not residential. Given this is a democratic dominated state, it's only a matter of time...

Proposition 13 (officially named the People's Initiative to Limit Property Taxation) is an amendment of the Constitution of California enacted during 1978, by means of the initiative process. The initiative was approved by California voters on June 6, 1978. It was upheld as constitutional by the United States Supreme Court in the case of Nordlinger v. Hahn, 505 U.S. 1 (1992). Proposition 13 is embodied in Article XIII A of the Constitution of the State of California.[1]

The most significant portion of the act is the first paragraph, which limits the tax rate for real estate:

Section 1. (a) The maximum amount of any ad valorem tax on real property shall not exceed one percent (1%) of the full cash value of such property. The one percent (1%) tax to be collected by the counties and apportioned according to law to the districts within the counties.

The proposition decreased property taxes by assessing values at their 1976 value and restricted annual increases of assessed value to an inflation factor, not to exceed 2% per year. It prohibits reassessment of a new base year value except in cases of (a) change in ownership, or (b) completion of new construction. These rules apply equally to all real estate, residential and commercial—whether owned by individuals or corporations.

The other significant portion of the initiative is that it requires a two-thirds majority in both legislative houses for future increases of any state tax rates or amounts of revenue collected, including income tax rates. It also requires a two-thirds vote majority in local elections for local governments wishing to increase special taxes. (A "special tax" is a tax devoted specifically to a purpose: e.g. homelessness or road repair; money that does not go into a general fund.)

Proposition 13 has been described as California's most famous and influential ballot measure;[2] it received an enormous publicity throughout the United States.[3] Passage of the initiative presaged a "taxpayer revolt" throughout the country that is sometimes thought to have contributed to the election of Ronald Reagan to the presidency during 1980. Yet of 30 anti-tax ballot measures that year, only 13 measures passed.[4]

A large contributor to Proposition 13 was the sentiment that older Californians should not be priced out of their homes through high taxes.[5] The proposition has been called the "third rail" (meaning "untouchable subject") of California politics, and it is not popular politically for lawmakers to attempt to change it.[6]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1978_California_Proposition_13

Yeah this is for Hollywood’s sake, at the least.