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Old 12-06-2017, 08:57am   #1 (permalink)
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Trump administration begins testing border wall prototypes to prevent scaling, breach attempts - ABC News

U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) began physically testing the southwest border wall prototypes this week, according to a spokesperson for the department.

The start of the official testing period was Nov. 27, but physical tests began Monday, said Carlos Diaz, CBP's public affairs branch chief for the southwest border.

Construction of eight wall prototypes in the San Diego sector were completed on Oct. 26. Six companies were chosen to build eight sample walls -- four made of concrete and four constructed of “other materials.”

President Donald Trump made the southern border wall between Mexico and the United States the calling card of his presidential campaign. "Build the wall" became a familiar chant at all of Trump's campaign rallies, and stopping illegal immigration was one of the candidate's top selling points.

The physical testing will include attempts to scale and breach the prototypes. Officials will use items such as jackhammers, saws and hydraulic tools to attempt to breach the prototypes.

During the procurement process the companies were required to build the walls at least 6-feet deep. The depth of the walls was evaluated during the construction process, according to Diaz.

All eight prototypes were required to be 18 to 30 feet high and designed to deter illegal crossings.

The prototypes were built side-by-side to the current secondary wall in San Diego, which already has a primary and secondary barrier.

Officials say that the current barriers need to be modernized.

Over the past three years, the existing infrastructure in San Diego has been breached nearly been 2,000 times, according to Roy Villareal, the deputy chief patrol agent of the San Diego Sector.

He said that’s a “testament” to the need for new wall structures.

“If you go back to the late '80s, the border was completely overrun. There were daily robberies, rapes, assaults, vehicle thefts, high-speed pursuits, people getting killed along the border in staggering numbers,” said Villreal, speaking to ABC News in front of the prototypes. “That has all curtailed as a result of investment in border security. That has curtailed as a result of what you see here today.”

In August, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), which oversees CBP, issued a waiver to certain laws, regulations and other legal requirements to expedite the prototype construction process.

The physical tests are expected to take place over the next two weeks.

Evaluators are going through a “very regimented process” during this assessment phase “to ensure when it’s completed we have the best information available,” said Diaz.

CBP is evaluating all the breach attempts and how long they take.

Everything is being complied and documented for the evaluation process that comes afterward, according to CBP.

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This is so unnecessary. Just dust off the plans of the old Berlin wall, and build that. Proven tech.
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What's the tallest one? That's the one we want.
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Which one is electrified?
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Let's hope the Mexicans don't learn this:
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I don't see any Concertina wire (aka razor wire) on any of them. If it's good enough to be used at every single maximum security prison in the country, why not use some on the wall?
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3rd from the left has it. With a simple tool I think the first on the left would be easy to scale.
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What's the tallest one? That's the one we want.
That's the one on the far right. All the ones to the left are clearly shorter.





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3rd from the left has it. With a simple tool I think the first on the left would be easy to scale.
Looks flat, not the big round rolls you'd see at any prison.
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Wonder if it wouldn't be cheaper to have a sniper with auto weapons spaced every 100 yards or so?

Just think of the expense to build it, patrol it, and maintain it? $$$
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I want the wall with the electronic monitoring.....simple concrete is not enough, and that includes ALL 'simple' solutions....

Electronic monitoring.....fires shotguns over top of the wall at anyone triggering a sensor....not even needing human monitoring....they pop over, they DEAD....

even VN era electronics from the HoChiMin trail would easy help the Border Service to detect ANY underground tunnels....

aircraft?? machine gun....easy....

eff 'em......


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Wonder if it wouldn't be cheaper to have a sniper with auto weapons spaced every 100 yards or so?

Just think of the expense to build it, patrol it, and maintain it? $$$
Who cares about the cost? Messico is going pay for it.
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Wonder if it wouldn't be cheaper to have a sniper with auto weapons spaced every 100 yards or so?

Just think of the expense to build it, patrol it, and maintain it? $$$
The problem is, the next president could withdraw those snipers and open it back up. A wall is forever.
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The problem is, the next president could withdraw those snipers and open it back up. A wall is forever.
NOT IF an act of coNNgress was done/pissed/passed/whatever.....

but we all know it's snot happening....

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Well, about that...
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The problem is, the next president could withdraw those snipers and open it back up. A wall is forever.
Might want to have a quick look at Berlin.
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Might want to have a quick look at Berlin.
point.

But that one lasted 50 years.
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Get some like on American Ninja Warrior.
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point.

But that one lasted 50 years.
...with patrols and a footprint just a little bit smaller.
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But that one lasted 50 years.
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...with patrols and a footprint just a little bit smaller.
The Berlin Wall was was constructed to keep the East Germans IN East Germany. Plus patrols and towers manned with machine guns with orders to shoot to kill.
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