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Old 05-17-2017, 04:50pm   #1 (permalink)
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Solid copper, obviously a ladle for something but I've had it for over 30 years and have no idea what it's for. I found it when digging a hole.... Looks very old to me.....any ideas?
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I would say it's for melting down lead to pour into bullet molds, Civil War era perhaps.
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I would say it's for melting down lead to pour into bullet molds, Civil War era perhaps.
I was tending towards that as well....because lead has a lower melting point than copper I think.

What's it worth?

But it may be from earlier than that if I dug it up in Canada? War of 1812?
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I was tending towards that as well....because lead has a lower melting point than copper I think.

What's it worth?

But it may be from earlier than that if I dug it up in Canada? War of 1812?
Yes, lead melts around 500*, I think. And copper would have worked well for this purpose for the same reason copper is still used in cooking vessels.




It doesn't really have to be from any war. Back then, any gun owner would have had one.
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YUP, now that I look again and see the what appears to be lead inside the ladle/cup.....take some scrubby to it, and see if it shines up a tad......
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a copper cup with a copper handle would be a poor choice for melted lead. the handle would be hot VERY fast.
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The way the handle is hollow for ventilation for cooling tells me it was meant to be used for prolonged periods over very high temp fires. If it got hot you could pour water in the end of it to cool it without even interrupting what you were doing.
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a copper cup with a copper handle would be a poor choice for melted lead. the handle would be hot VERY fast.
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The way the handle is hollow for ventilation for cooling tells me it was meant to be used for prolonged periods over very high temp fires. If it got hot you could pour water in the end of it to cool it without even interrupting what you were doing.
Wow. I actually typed my post before I saw yours.

You could also stick a piece of wood into the handle if it got too hot to handle.
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I'm probably completely wrong about all this but this is fun anyway.
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Give you 50 bux American for it......

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I wouldn't give him 50 cents for the damn thing if it was used in the making of lead bullets for the northern invaders!!!
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I wouldn't give him 50 cents for the damn thing if it was used in the making of lead bullets for the northern invaders!!!
Want to really be outraged?

Look at what the fine folks in New Orleans are doing, since the city's so laden with extra cash (it's not).

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Statue of Confederate Gen. P.G.T. Beauregard being removed in New Orleans in wee hours of May 17, 2017
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NEW ORLEANS -- The city of New Orleans late Tuesday began taking down a monument to Gen. P.G.T Beauregard - the third of four Confederate-era monuments slated for removal.


The city had already taken down a statue of the Confederacy's only president and a memorial to a white rebellion against a biracial Reconstruction-era government in the New Orleans.

By 4:10 a.m., the Beauregard statue had been removed from its pedastal, which city officials said would be left in place for now but with Beauregard's name removed, according to CBS New Orleans affiliate WWL-TV.

Bill protecting Confederate monuments passes Louisiana House after fiery debate

The removal was met by demonstrations favoring and opposing it, WWL says, adding that several arrests were made.

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Mayor Mitch Landrieu first proposed removing the monuments in 2015, and the City Council approved the move that year. But the process was stuck in legal limbo for over a year as supporters fought to keep them up.

"Today we take another step in defining our City not by our past but by our bright future," Landrieu said in a news release announcing the Beauregard statue was coming down. "While we must honor our history, we will not allow the Confederacy to be put on a pedestal in the heart of New Orleans."

Last minute appeals - the vocal kind, not the legal one - were made Tuesday by members of the Monumental Task Committee, but were unsuccessful, WWL says.

The committee recently launched a long-shot legal battle in an effort to save the Beauregard statue. "Mayor Landrieu's actions are an insult to New Orleanians who came before us -- the veterans, widows, parents, children, and citizens who donated their personal money to build and place these monuments where they stand to honor the memory of their fallen family members," committee President Pierre McGraw said in a statement .

But for many in this majority black city, the monuments pay honor to a history of slavery and segregation, and they want them down.

The Beauregard monument was unveiled to a crowd of hundreds, and with a 17-gun salute the afternoon of Nov. 11, 1915, by Hilda Beauregard, a granddaughter of the Confederate general.

New Orleans previously took down the Battle of Liberty Place monument and a statue of Jefferson Davis. Still awaiting removal is the statue of Gen. Robert E. Lee, which is located in the center of Lee Circle.


Each removal has drawn protests from those who have sought to keep the monuments in place, with several people standing vigil at the Davis statue and waving Confederate battle flags even as a crane lifted it off its pedestal.
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I wouldn't give him 50 cents for the damn thing if it was used in the making of lead bullets for the northern invaders!!!
........James....a wee bit bitter are we?
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Tomorrow I'll scour the inside of the ladle and see what kind of metal remnants are in it. I'd like to know what the half hook is for on the lower handle as well...

And....I'll bet there was a wooden long handle on it that went into the handle to keep away from the heat?
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Tomorrow I'll scour the inside of the ladle and see what kind of metal remnants are in it. I'd like to know what the half hook is for on the lower handle as well...
Yeah, I wonder about that hook, too.
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........James....a wee bit bitter are we?
Got to admit the man knows how to hold a grudge
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Lead melts at 621.5 F
Copper at 1984 F.
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