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Old 05-17-2017, 04:26pm   #1 (permalink)
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National Guard soldier claims United Airlines charged $200 for overweight bag | Fox News

dear mister CEO: you and your employees are idiots.
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SO UAL is trying to say he has to repack his gear for the final leg of around the freeking planet???

WTF is RONG these daze?? people have the brains of dawgs or less.....
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United Airlines....as great as a soup sammich.
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Before everyone gets in a twist, here are some facts. Some airlines will waive the fee for military traveling on orders. This is a courtesy they extend to the military, not a requirement. If they don't waive it, the Soldier claims the fee on his travel voucher and the government picks up the tab. If the young Lt didn't know this, that's on him.

This is not new. I've deployed numerous times, sometimes I get hit with overweight or too many bags, easy solution, use my government issued credit card, put in on my voucher, done.

It's that's easy.
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Before everyone gets in a twist, here are some facts. Some airlines will waive the fee for military traveling on orders. This is a courtesy they extend to the military, not a requirement. If they don't waive it, the Soldier claims the fee on his travel voucher and the government picks up the tab. If the young Lt didn't know this, that's on him.

This is not new. I've deployed numerous times, sometimes I get hit with overweight or too many bags, easy solution, use my government issued credit card, put in on my voucher, done.

It's that's easy.
so if they dont waive the fee, they're not screwing the soldier, they're screwing us....got it.
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Before everyone gets in a twist, here are some facts. Some airlines will waive the fee for military traveling on orders. This is a courtesy they extend to the military, not a requirement. If they don't waive it, the Soldier claims the fee on his travel voucher and the government picks up the tab. If the young Lt didn't know this, that's on him.

This is not new. I've deployed numerous times, sometimes I get hit with overweight or too many bags, easy solution, use my government issued credit card, put in on my voucher, done.

It's that's easy.
Thanks for that info. I did not know that.

Perhaps it has to do with why the bag was overweight. I had a flight attendant tell me a story one tim about a military passenger who had a 4 speed transmission in a duffel bag.

That was back in the 60s. Sounds like something one of us would do.
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so if they dont waive the fee, they're not screwing the soldier, they're screwing us....got it.
No, they are enforcing their rules. Waiving the fee is a courtesy. They are a business, not a charity. That's why we're allowed to claim the fee on our vouchers.
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Thanks for that info. I did not know that.

Perhaps it has to do with why the bag was overweight. I had a flight attendant tell me a story one tim about a military passenger who had a 4 speed transmission in a duffel bag.

That was back in the 60s. Sounds like something one of us would do.
Your average Muncie 4 speed weighs around 70 or 75 pounds, probably less than what my wife packs on a weekend trip.
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He should have taken the Kevlar vest, boots and a helmet and put them on. Wear them on the plane and then throw them in the overhead bin. Sucks to have to do something like that but there is always some way to get around overzealous employees
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Your average Muncie 4 speed weighs around 70 or 75 pounds, probably less than what my wife packs on a weekend trip.
Yeah, but if it was a Mopar, they would have to lengthen the runway.
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No, they are enforcing their rules. Waiving the fee is a courtesy. They are a business, not a charity. That's why we're allowed to claim the fee on our vouchers.

Waiving the fee is nice, but let's not be like the entitlement generation that EXPECTS things will always be free. Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. Be grateful if it is, and if it isn't, well, that's what you agreed to up front.
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Before everyone gets in a twist, here are some facts. Some airlines will waive the fee for military traveling on orders. This is a courtesy they extend to the military, not a requirement. If they don't waive it, the Soldier claims the fee on his travel voucher and the government picks up the tab. If the young Lt didn't know this, that's on him.

This is not new. I've deployed numerous times, sometimes I get hit with overweight or too many bags, easy solution, use my government issued credit card, put in on my voucher, done.

It's that's easy.
Hey now, why you bringin' facts into a good UAL bashin'?
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Hey now, why you bringin' facts into a good UAL bashin'?
The only issue I've ever had flying was actually with Delta. First Iraq deployment, about 60% of the flight was military. Each of us carrying 4 bags plus an M-16. Guess what, we were overweight for the plane. So they start unloading bags, do they go random, nope they pull military bags, and only military bags off the flight. Pilot comes over the intercom: "Sorry for the delay folks, as you can probably see we have a lot of military traveling with us today. As you can guess their baggage is pretty heavy and we're overweight. We're currently unloading some of the bags, hopefully this doesn't inconvenience any of our regular passengers" All of us in uniform just kind of sat there looking at each other, like..."did he just say that".

3 hour plane right to sit and get more and more pissed off. Finally land and I get off the plane and wait for the pilot. Needless to say this Airman on his way to Iraq didn't care for the comment that us heading to a war zone was "inconveniencing" regular Delta passengers. Pilot tried to backpedal and double talk, I didn't buy it for a second. I chewed his ass for a good 20 minutes at a volume high enough for everyone within earshot to know exact what he'd said and done. Pilot got some really dirty looks as he walked away.
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Waiving the fee is nice, but let's not be like the entitlement generation that EXPECTS things will always be free. Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. Be grateful if it is, and if it isn't, well, that's what you agreed to up front.
Exactly, I look at it like a military discount at a store, if they're nice enough to extend one, thanks, I appreciate it. If not, no biggie.

I hope the Lt's CO pulls him aside and chews his ass for being an idiot. He'll be lucky if it's the CO, if the First Sergeant gets a hold of him, he's toast.
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Before everyone gets in a twist, here are some facts. Some airlines will waive the fee for military traveling on orders. This is a courtesy they extend to the military, not a requirement. If they don't waive it, the Soldier claims the fee on his travel voucher and the government picks up the tab. If the young Lt didn't know this, that's on him.

This is not new. I've deployed numerous times, sometimes I get hit with overweight or too many bags, easy solution, use my government issued credit card, put in on my voucher, done.

It's that's easy.
Government issued credit card...? As an enlisted pee-on, that was not a term familiar to me...times have changed...
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The only issue I've ever had flying was actually with Delta. First Iraq deployment, about 60% of the flight was military. Each of us carrying 4 bags plus an M-16. Guess what, we were overweight for the plane. So they start unloading bags, do they go random, nope they pull military bags, and only military bags off the flight. Pilot comes over the intercom: "Sorry for the delay folks, as you can probably see we have a lot of military traveling with us today. As you can guess their baggage is pretty heavy and we're overweight. We're currently unloading some of the bags, hopefully this doesn't inconvenience any of our regular passengers" All of us in uniform just kind of sat there looking at each other, like..."did he just say that".

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I woulda paid five dollars to watch.

I also might've stood with you and threw in a comment or two.....
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Government issued credit card...? As an enlisted pee-on, that was not a term familiar to me...times have changed...
It actually kind of sucks. I used to be able to use my own credit card and get the points but then the govt mandated I use theirs.
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The key for me is how much over weight was the bag?

I am pretty confident the soldier knew the limit and was close to it.

I did notice that he would have been allowed to just move the extra weight to another bag. So why do that if the actual weight wasnt going to change?

I also read where the airlines is reaching out to him to reimburse the cost.

But I agree some common sense is needed around these issues!
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Before everyone gets in a twist, here are some facts. Some airlines will waive the fee for military traveling on orders. This is a courtesy they extend to the military, not a requirement. If they don't waive it, the Soldier claims the fee on his travel voucher and the government picks up the tab. If the young Lt didn't know this, that's on him.

This is not new. I've deployed numerous times, sometimes I get hit with overweight or too many bags, easy solution, use my government issued credit card, put in on my voucher, done.

It's that's easy.
Wonder if "news" outlets will report these facts?

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