friend of mine (with a FFL)

[Mike Mercury]

said he made an offer on a few crates of these... but apparently it wasn't high enough (someone else got them):

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads25/28251468441392.jpg

Russian-made Mosin-Nagants just now surfacing, been stored in a warehouse in Ukraine since WWII.

Collectors rifle only? or good shooters as well ???

[OddBall]

There are a guhzillion Mosin-Nagants out there. Not really a collection rifle, but a good shooter though. I got this one for ninety bucks about 10 years ago. I cleaned off the gallon of cosmoline that was still on it; striped off the quarter-inch layer of paint and lacquer, sanded and poly'd the stock and reblued the barrel.


http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/visund/Guns/MN11.jpg

[VITE1]

My son has two. You have to be careful about the wear and tear on many of them. Finding one in good condition is not that difficult and they do shoot well.

[6spdC6]

Cheap, plentiful a bit crude and always works, whats not to like.

Also easy to find cheap ammo but be warned its corrosive.

Yes I have one a carbine, it tends to kick a bit and is very loud!:D

[Mike Mercury]

sounds like they are fairly plentiful.

wanna talk about difficulty in obtaining a weapon, try getting your hands on a ZF-1:

https://www.yourprops.com/movieprops/original/yp_5134d7266836a6.02816007/The-Fifth-Element-5th-ZF-1-Remote-Control-2.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSszMkW_Rqw0WazBFSRHFMVPpBrKnvFhD7NisO2qsLDhFl_sH0p

http://www.incrediblyinventive.com/zf1_images/rp/ZF-1rp_cu_top.jpg

http://www.studiocreations.com/howto/zf1/IMAGES/screencap_barrel_and_pistolgrip.jpg

http://www.incrediblyinventive.com/zf1_images/rp/ZF-1rp_scope.jpg









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Handle's adjustable for easy carrying, good for righties and lefties. Breaks down into four parts, undetectable by x-ray, ideal for quick, discreet interventions. A word on firepower. Titanium recharger, three thousand round clip with bursts of three to three hundred, and with the Replay button - another Zorg invention - it's even easier.

[SQUIRMIN VERMIN 84]

I've had several of these over the years. I like the octagonal receivers better than the round but that's just me. Good straight shooter. Pretty rudimentary as far as engineering but that was back in the day. I kept the best one and still enjoy range time with it.:seasix:

[SQUIRMIN VERMIN 84]

sounds like they are fairly plentiful.

wanna talk about difficulty in obtaining a weapon, try gettig your hands on a ZF-1:

https://www.yourprops.com/movieprops/original/yp_5134d7266836a6.02816007/The-Fifth-Element-5th-ZF-1-Remote-Control-2.jpg

Handle's adjustable for easy carrying, good for righties and lefties. Breaks down into four parts, undetectable by x-ray, ideal for quick, discreet interventions. A word on firepower. Titanium recharger, three thousand round clip with bursts of three to three hundred, and with the Replay button - another Zorg invention - it's even easier.

Do they make an ankle holster for that?

[Mike Mercury]

Do they make an ankle holster for that?


no on the ankle holsters....



zero crates !

http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/4/46/5th_09.jpg/800px-5th_09.jpg

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[Fastguy]

I have an M44 carbine. You used to be able to buy the full sized 91/30 rifles for $75-$100 but they have gone up. Lot's of recoil in the carbine.
The Russian rifles aren't worth much, they are crude and sloppy. Built to be as simple as possible to operate and maintain. The Finnish rifles can command some decent money.

[Mike Mercury]

https://scifiinterfaces.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/reddots1.gif?w=545&h=227

Zorg: A case with four stones in it! Not one or two or three but four! Four stones! What the hell am I supposed to do with an empty case?

Aknot: We are warriors, not merchants.

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Zorg: But you can still count.

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[69camfrk]

I have an M44 carbine. You used to be able to buy the full sized 91/30 rifles for $75-$100 but they have gone up. Lot's of recoil in the carbine.
The Russian rifles aren't worth much, they are crude and sloppy. Built to be as simple as possible to operate and maintain. The Finnish rifles can command some decent money.

Well, I agree with most of what you are saying. I collect Mosin's and have researched the hell out of them. The M44's command more money than the 91/30's and as you stated the Finnish rifles are definitely pricey upwards of around 400 bux. On the other hand, a PU sniper rifle is going to cost around 600 bux give or take a dollar or two and of course that would be either an Izzy or a Tula rifle. If one was able to get an American made Mosin, they command the money too, but the Bolshevik revolution put an end to that contract. Remington and Westinghouse both made them, but I've not personally seen one. A crate of Mosin's would be a helluva lot of fun, and if there is a hex receiver one in the batch, try and score it. Tula arsenal rifles are generally more preferable because they are deemed higher quality than the Izhesvk (Izzy for short) rifles. Tula rifles have a star with an arrow in the middle on the top of the receiver. Izzy rifles have a triangle with an arrow in the middle.

Each one of mine is different, and carries obviously a different piece of history. I did get lucky a few years ago and score a Tula M44 which while not rare, is rarer. After the run of M38 carbines (same as M44, no bayonet) Tula was manufacturing the M44's, however, the Nazi's over ran the factory, and all production moved to Izhesvk. Supposedly there were only 100,000 of those made. It was purely luck of the draw on that one. You might run across a "MO" marked rifle which is a double stamped firearm. It means it was taken out of military service and issued to the ministry of defense. It seems like those are getting harder to find too. All in all, it is a great piece of history, and still relatively cheap. A regular round receiver 91/30 can still be had in the $140 range, sometimes a little cheaper. Be mindful though, if you do get one and shoot the surplus ammo, it is corrosive. Within 24 hours, the barrel needs to be washed out with a mild soapy solution, or even Windex works ok. Just so long as you do it. Dry patch it, bore brush, oil patch it, and roll. If you have any questions, shoot me a pm. I have some pretty good resource material.:cert:

[Jeff '79]

Well, I agree with most of what you are saying. I collect Mosin's and have researched the hell out of them. The M44's command more money than the 91/30's and as you stated the Finnish rifles are definitely pricey upwards of around 400 bux. On the other hand, a PU sniper rifle is going to cost around 600 bux give or take a dollar or two and of course that would be either an Izzy or a Tula rifle. If one was able to get an American made Mosin, they command the money too, but the Bolshevik revolution put an end to that contract. Remington and Westinghouse both made them, but I've not personally seen one. A crate of Mosin's would be a helluva lot of fun, and if there is a hex receiver one in the batch, try and score it. Tula arsenal rifles are generally more preferable because they are deemed higher quality than the Izhesvk (Izzy for short) rifles. Tula rifles have a star with an arrow in the middle on the top of the receiver. Izzy rifles have a triangle with an arrow in the middle.

Each one of mine is different, and carries obviously a different piece of history. I did get lucky a few years ago and score a Tula M44 which while not rare, is rarer. After the run of M38 carbines (same as M44, no bayonet) Tula was manufacturing the M44's, however, the Nazi's over ran the factory, and all production moved to Izhesvk. Supposedly there were only 100,000 of those made. It was purely luck of the draw on that one. You might run across a "MO" marked rifle which is a double stamped firearm. It means it was taken out of military service and issued to the ministry of defense. It seems like those are getting harder to find too. All in all, it is a great piece of history, and still relatively cheap. A regular round receiver 91/30 can still be had in the $140 range, sometimes a little cheaper. Be mindful though, if you do get one and shoot the surplus ammo, it is corrosive. Within 24 hours, the barrel needs to be washed out with a mild soapy solution, or even Windex works ok. Just so long as you do it. Dry patch it, bore brush, oil patch it, and roll. If you have any questions, shoot me a pm. I have some pretty good resource material.:cert:

Excellent dissertation.. :seasix:

[markids77]

Wish I had gotten a crate of the long rifles when they were selling for $69.95 each. I passed because they were too long to fit in my safe at that time.