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[Rob]

Why don't Anti-Trump supporters ever threaten to move to Mexico?

:confused5:

[8Up]

:rofl::seasix:

[Bill]

Why don't Anti-Trump supporters ever threaten to move to Mexico?

:confused5:

I don't need to move to Mexico....Mexico has moved in next door to me.

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[Burro (He/Haw)]

Why don't Anti-Trump supporters ever threaten to move to Mexico?

:confused5:

Because they're hoping for a tumble with Hillary. But I've got news for 'em. She's gonna be awful busy giving me a blumpkin.

[boracayjohnny]

Because they're hoping for a tumble with Hillary. But I've got news for 'em. She's gonna be awful busy giving me a blumpkin.

That's not what I heard. She's really into Cleveland Steamers.

[Burro (He/Haw)]

That's not what I heard. She's really into Cleveland Steamers.

Either one is fine, both involve poo.

[Cybercowboy]

Why doesn't Trump just try some real tacos and burritos?

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/6e/92/97/6e9297edcf33b6649c31c0a66bd25783.jpg

I can make great burritos. So can all the Mexican legal immigrants here.

[Cybercowboy]

I'm pretty sure illegals aren't using modern jet transportation often, but perhaps we can give them a ride on one soon.

[Bill]

I'm pretty sure illegals aren't using modern jet transportation often, but perhaps we can give them a ride on one soon.

That's not true. Remember all those "unaccompanied minor" illegal aliens? Not only did we not send them back, we put them on planes and sent them all over the country....a diaspora of illegals, as it were.

You know how you have to show ID and get felt up to get on a plane these days? Hey, who needs ID when you've got Obama backing your play?

[Cybercowboy]

You should volunteer to be their escort.

I do my part by not sneaking into their country and then putting my anchor baby into their schools, getting paid under the table and sending the money back home to bring more of their family there, using their welfare state at a rate double of legal immigrants and nearly triple that of citizens, using false social security numbers, obtaining driver's licenses and then voting in our elections (California, it really does work that way), and absolutely killing the job market for minority and marginalized citizens there. I also don't drive around without any insurance, causing all sorts of death and destruction, facilitate the cartel drug trade, and march around having demonstrations telling that country that it's really my country and for "the race."

[Cybercowboy]

That's not true. Remember all those "unaccompanied minor" illegal aliens? Not only did we not send them back, we put them on planes and sent them all over the country....a diaspora of illegals, as it were.

You know how you have to show ID and get felt up to get on a plane these days? Hey, who needs ID when you've got Obama backing your play?

And all of that was planned. It's so incredibly in-your-face how much this administration hates its own citizens.

[Bucwheat]

We got lots of taco benders here already.

[Bill]

"....and by complaining like a broken record on the internet."

If you actually agree with the speech given to you by every republican drone then do something about it. Write to your elected officials. Attend local and state assemblies. If you think donny trump will fix these problems you're sorely mistaken. If you truly believe that he wouldn't send this country into financial ruin just to increase his own net worth then you might as well go down to the DMV and have the picture on your license replaced with a head of lettuce.


This all sounds so familiar. An alarmingly confident candidate who yells the loudest. Placing blame for hardship on a specific and entire race of people has to have happened before. I feel like it was in Europe somewhere. I'm getting a strong sense of deja vu.

If you lived on the front lines of the invasion, you might feel differently. Here's the latest (just a couple of days ago) casualty of our open borders policy.....a beautiful young girl on her way to prom. She didn't make it, thanks to the illegal alien, drunk Guatemalan who was fleeing from the police, ran a red light and killed her.

Driver awaits hearing on deadly prom night crash charges | abc13.com (http://abc13.com/news/suspected-drunk-driver-charged-in-death-of-prom-goer/1340756/)

Edit: And here's the thing......Trump was the only one even bothering to mention the problem, and suggest that yes, we can do something to fix the problem the right way, not the Reagan way. Since Eisenhower and Reagan's failed amnesty, no one else has done anything about the problem.

[Bill]

Because illegal immigrants are the only people who get drunk and kill people with their cars...

Of course that's not true. Plenty of citizens do it, too, and they should be severely punished for that. But when you have people who don't belong here in the first place that you could deport (who have a high propensity for DWI, as well as cantina shootings, btw) and you don't do it, what do you say to families like the one that just lost a daughter? Sorry, politics is more important than your loved one? Actually it really isn't even politics, since prior to the advent of Trump, NO ONE was talking about the problem, rather, just accepting it like we accept illness and old age.

Again, if you were here in Houston, at the epicenter, you might feel differently about the issue. I've been hit by a no insurance, no DL illegal driver before, and there are plenty of them here. And don't get me started on school taxes. Remove the illegal kids from our schools, and we wouldn't have such outrageous school taxes, and Texas' test scores wouldn't be so abysmal.

[boracayjohnny]

Of course that's not true. Plenty of citizens do it, too, and they should be severely punished for that. But when you have people who don't belong here in the first place that you could deport (who have a high propensity for DWI, as well as cantina shootings, btw) and you don't do it, what do you say to families like the one that just lost a daughter? Sorry, politics is more important than your loved one? Actually it really isn't even politics, since prior to the advent of Trump, NO ONE was talking about the problem, rather, just accepting it like we accept illness and old age.

Again, if you were here in Houston, at the epicenter, you might feel differently about the issue. I've been hit by a no insurance, no DL illegal driver before, and there are plenty of them here. And don't get me started on school taxes. Remove the illegal kids from our schools, and we wouldn't have such outrageous school taxes, and Texas' test scores wouldn't be so abysmal.

:seasix: This guy...he gets it.

Btw, a while back, the wife and I left San Antonio and moved to, of all places, Los Angeles. I actually feel safer driving here. :Jeff '79: Give me the 405 anytime as opposed to the ~once monthly shithead driving the wrong way on the 410/35/10 while drunk. It was so bad, the wife and I stayed off those after dark on the weekends. We even kept it to a minimum during the week.

[WalkerInTN]

Because Canada has cheap meds & a better economy than Mexico. :seasix:

I've heard several people threaten to move to Canada if he wins. :yesnod:

[boracayjohnny]

Because Canada has cheap meds & a better economy than Mexico. :seasix:

I've heard several people threaten to move to Canada if he wins. :yesnod:

I believe the point Dixie is trying to make is if they fly the Mexican flag and want open borders with Mexico then gtfo to Mexico.

[Cybercowboy]

"....and by complaining like a broken record on the internet."

If you actually agree with the speech given to you by every republican drone then do something about it. Write to your elected officials. Attend local and state assemblies. If you think donny trump will fix these problems you're sorely mistaken. If you truly believe that he wouldn't send this country into financial ruin just to increase his own net worth then you might as well go down to the DMV and have the picture on your license replaced with a head of lettuce.


This all sounds so familiar. An alarmingly confident candidate who yells the loudest. Placing blame for hardship on a specific and entire race of people has to have happened before. I feel like it was in Europe somewhere. I'm getting a strong sense of deja vu.

So funny. The GOP was all set to roll this country up, amnesty and H1B city. Trump stands athwart their plans and they hate him for it. The dems long ago decided to sell out our country. But whatever, we are going to fix shit.

[SQUIRMIN VERMIN 84]

Savage was right! Liberalism is a mental disorder.

[Rob]

I believe the point Dixie is trying to make is if they fly the Mexican flag and want open borders with Mexico then gtfo to Mexico.


No. I was just making a joke and trying to be funny.

Call it a jole. :-)

[Cybercowboy]

So what you're saying is that the problem lies with the insurance companies that are discriminating who they offer services to. If they could get a drivers license and insurance you wouldn't have been stuck with the bill.

The problem lies with the government that won't accept taxes. If they could pay taxes, you wouldn't have to for them.

The problem lies with the government which makes it extremely difficult to live here legally. If they weren't risking jailtime, deportation, and death for a better life, they wouldn't run from a simple traffic violation.

People are going to continue to move here whether you like it or not. You can fight it to get nowhere and make both your lives more difficult or you can work to make it easier for everyone.

LOL let's just make it easier for them to utterly screw this country up just like Mexico and those other gems down there. And...let's make sure we register them to vote Democrat while we're at it, and let them have all those government goodies. And let's just say **** it, we have no borders. Why discriminate against Chinese or Africans or anyone else who wants to just "move here"? Who cares who they are! It's just one big world where we can just let people move here or there and have full citizen rights wherever they feel like they most identify?

Or, we can build a wall. Places currently where wall-building is working great: Israel and Hungary.

[Bill]

So what you're saying is that the problem lies with the insurance companies that are discriminating who they offer services to. If they could get a drivers license and insurance you wouldn't have been stuck with the bill.

The problem lies with the government that won't accept taxes. If they could pay taxes, you wouldn't have to for them.

The problem lies with the government which makes it extremely difficult to live here legally. If they weren't risking jailtime, deportation, and death for a better life, they wouldn't run from a simple traffic violation.

People are going to continue to move here whether you like it or not. You can fight it to get nowhere and make both your lives more difficult or you can work to make it easier for everyone.

Lets get some facts straight. Insurance companies most certainly WILL insure illegal drivers. I know this as fact (don't ask me how I know). True, most of the companies that will insure illegals are surplus lines (non standard, aka high risk). Some illegals actually carry liability insurance, although they are still likely to run if there's an accident because, well, because they are illegal, likely drunk, and they don't trust la policia. And the second fact here is, the government most certainly WILL accept tax money from illegals. Illegals pay property tax on property they own, they pay for the car license plate tax the day after they buy a one month liability insurance policy so they can actually GET that car tag. The smarter illegals also pay federal income tax via a TIN (taxpayer identification number) issued by the IRS of all people. So they have meager income tax deducted from their check, then get a "refund" in the high thousands, even ten thousand, by virtue of the 36 kids they claim as dependents back in the old country. EITC (earned income tax credit) is the best thing to happen to illegals since sliced bread.

If you have other points, I'd be glad to address them, fairly, and without prejudice. Like I said, unless you are on the front lines like me, this could be an academic, esoteric exercise. Live here, though, and there are real problems and lots of real costs that leave less $$ for citizens...the ones that don't die at the hands of drunk illegals.

Finally, let's be clear. The Republicans by and large are just as in favor of open borders and welcoming illegals as you are. That's why ever since Eisenhower, nothing has been done about this problem. Hell, Reagan gave them all amnestia back in the day. So this isn't a Pub/Dem divide, it's something else entirely, and it's that something else that Trump has tapped into to defeat all those other Pub challengers.

[SQUIRMIN VERMIN 84]

LOL let's just make it easier for them to utterly screw this country up just like Mexico and those other gems down there. And...let's make sure we register them to vote Democrat while we're at it, and let them have all those government goodies. And let's just say **** it, we have no borders. Why discriminate against Chinese or Africans or anyone else who wants to just "move here"? Who cares who they are! It's just one big world where we can just let people move here or there and have full citizen rights wherever they feel like they most identify?

Or, we can build a wall. Places currently where wall-building is working great: Israel and Hungary.

:iagree:

With Kerry preaching a world of borderless nations, I'd like to see he and everyone else who thinks 'people will come over the border anyway so sit back and enjoy', remove all doors of access to their homes. If it's good globally, it should be good locally! Borders, Language and Culture-all depend on each other to maintain and nurture healthy societies. Good fences make good neighbours. Illegal alien's first act on our soil was to break our federal law.
No one is supposed to be above the law in a nation of laws. It's all lost on the left.

[Cybercowboy]

It's too bad your family didn't encounter a wall when they moved here. Being born in this country doesn't make you better than anyone else. I'm sorry to see that you're so narrow minded.

If I ever wanted to immigrate to another country I'd do it legally. I actually cannot understand the thinking of people such as yourself. It's incredibly dangerous for them to come up through the border with coyotes and the cartels running that show, extorting money, raping young girls with no repercussions. I've heard the opinions of quite a few Mexican nationals who are totally for shutting down the open border to our south because it would be a humanitarian thing. Not to mention what it would do to the cartels.

My dad's family came over in one of the boats that came along with the Mayflower. My great^7 grandfather signed the Declaration of Independence and was put on a British prison ship in New York Harbor because of it, ruining his health and his fortune. Another great grandfather fought in the Civil War and nearly got taken to Andersonville (he was an albino, they thought he was an old man and left him to die of his wounds.) My mom's family immigrated through Ellis Island in the late 1800's from Germany. Legally. They busted their asses, learned the language, and built farms and businesses.

I have many friends who have gone through our rather arduous immigration process and have became productive American citizens. They are frankly pissed off at these illegals who just flaunt it right in their faces, and these same illegals don't give a crap about America and its values for the most part. They are here to take. Sure, there are plenty of hard workers and I'd be all for a reasonable worker program but they would no doubt shit all over that too. It's totally out of control. We have about 13 million documented illegals here, but the real number is closer to 30 million. If you dig into our "jobs growth" numbers in the last 10 years, guess what? Immigrants (some legal, most not) make up something like 70% of the new jobs. Visa overstays are par for the course too.

We don't have to continue down this road. It's idiocy. Well, if you want to keep your country it is. If you don't care about havinga country that is even slightly identifiable as America and not Venezuela or Cuba or Mexico, then I guess you'd be fine with it.

[Bill]

It's too bad your family didn't encounter a wall when they moved here. Being born in this country doesn't make you better than anyone else. I'm sorry to see that you're so narrow minded.

The US is already $ 19T in debt, due in large part, to foreign wars and foreign aid, as well as entitlement spending here at home.

Think of America as a life boat. We can only take in so many people, we can only give out so much aid before the lifeboat gets overloaded and sinks, taking all hands with it. That's pretty much where we are at now. The makers in this country can't keep up with all the takers. We can't build new schools fast enough to house all the illegal and anchor kids, and every one of those kids is a big drain on the taxpayers, starting from before they were even born with WIC for mamacita, medical care and expensive hospital delivery, then Medicaid, free breakfast, free lunch, food stamps, etc.

This problem is entirely numbers driven. If we were just talking about a few illegals, the taxpayers could absorb those costs, no problem. Millions of millions of takers, each bearing even more takers? No life boat could handle that without eventually sinking.

[boracayjohnny]

It's too bad your family didn't encounter a wall when they moved here. Being born in this country doesn't make you better than anyone else. I'm sorry to see that you're so narrow minded.

Quoted to ensure I can read this for all it's worth.

[SQUIRMIN VERMIN 84]

I immigrated here back in '66 and did it LEGALLY. Had a ton of paperwork, physical exam to make sure I wasn't carrying a disease and had to have a sponsor with a job waiting for me based on my own application so that I wouldn't "become a burden upon the American taxpayer". A few years after the Army (volunteer, not drafted), I became an American citizen to ASSIMILATE in the American culture. It is worth defending.

We are NOT a nation of immigrants! We are a nation of CITIZENS! Just being here does not make you one of US!

[Bill]

People are going to continue to move here whether you like it or not. You can fight it to get nowhere and make both your lives more difficult or you can work to make it easier for everyone.

People are going to continue to burglarize homes and rob people. Should we start leaving our doors open, disconnecting the alarms, and turn in our guns to make it easier for the criminals to take from us, or should we fight crime, even if it gets us nowhere?

[SQUIRMIN VERMIN 84]

My dad's family came over in one of the boats that came along with the Mayflower. My great^7 grandfather signed the Declaration of Independence and was put on a British prison ship in New York Harbor because of it, ruining his health and his fortune. Another great grandfather fought in the Civil War and nearly got taken to Andersonville (he was an albino, they thought he was an old man and left him to die of his wounds.) My mom's family immigrated through Ellis Island in the late 1800's from Germany. Legally. They busted their asses, learned the language, and built farms and businesses.


Nice ancestry, bud! :seasix:
:patriot:

[69camfrk]

We? You don't seem to be doing anything but whining.

You say that, but contacting your "elected" representative is like pissing in the wind. I've made more calls and sent more emails than you can shake a stick at. Once elected, their only goal is to be reelected. I have no problem with people that have immigrated here through legal channels, but if you are here illegally, I have a problem with it. There should be no such thing as an "anchor" baby if you are in this country illegally. Please explain to me why my tax dollars should be redistributed to those that have not contributed. Hell, for that matter, I don't like the fact that people who are citizens that are capable of working don't, and get my money. The takers are starting to out pace the makers, and we are all going to end up shit creek without a paddle. I'm not a bigot, nor a racsist, but I'm not a fan of having the .gov take from me and give it to someone else that doesn't contribute.

I'm not saying Trump is going to be a saviour either, far from it. He is just echoing what most of America feels, but we can no longer continue to go down the same path. I highly doubt there will be any meaningful change, but I'll be danged if I vote for the status quo. And, if all the south of the border illegals waving the Mexican flag think it is so great there, then like others have said....go the hell back..

[MrPeabody]

You say that, but contacting your "elected" representative is like pissing in the wind. I've made more calls and sent more emails than you can shake a stick at. Once elected, their only goal is to be reelected. I have no problem with people that have immigrated here through legal channels, but if you are here illegally, I have a problem with it. There should be no such thing as an "anchor" baby if you are in this country illegally. Please explain to me why my tax dollars should be redistributed to those that have not contributed. Hell, for that matter, I don't like the fact that people who are citizens that are capable of working don't, and get my money. The takers are starting to out pace the makers, and we are all going to end up shit creek without a paddle. I'm not a bigot, nor a racsist, but I'm not a fan of having the .gov take from me and give it to someone else that doesn't contribute.

I'm not saying Trump is going to be a saviour either, far from it. He is just echoing what most of America feels, but we can no longer continue to go down the same path. I highly doubt there will be any meaningful change, but I'll be danged if I vote for the status quo. And, if all the south of the border illegals waving the Mexican flag think it is so great there, then like others have said....go the hell back..

Don't bother asking anyone in Congress to do anything for you unless you are carrying six figures in cash with you at the time. Even then, no guarantees.

[69camfrk]

Don't bother asking anyone in Congress to do anything for you unless you are carrying six figures in cash with you at the time. Even then, no guarantees.

I think we all know that the only thing they represent is themselves. The whole shithouse is going up in flames, and one candidate is barely better than any of the rest of them. The whole system is broken, and I've preached it a thousand times, when the wheels fall off, we are all going to suffer.

[RedLS1GTO]

Even if that were true, it wouldn't make you personally any more deserving of a citizenship than anyone else.

So in your mind I should be able to hop a flight to London and call myself a British citizen?

[Rob]

If I ever wanted to immigrate to another country I'd do it legally.

I have many friends who have gone through our rather arduous immigration process and have became productive American citizens.

:seasix: My wife and son are a fine example of doing it legally...It isn't quick or cheap, but it is worth it to me and to them.

Just for the healthcare and education alone that we are going to be able provide for our son is worth every penny.


On the other side - I also see why so many people take the risk to come here for those same reasons - their children. There is not much that I wouldn't do to make sure my boys have every opportunity available to them in their lives.

[RedLS1GTO]

Yea. Didn't think so.

[Bill]

Even if that were true, it wouldn't make you personally any more deserving of a citizenship than anyone else.

I agree totally, and I don't think Cyber is saying he's more deserving of citizenship than someone else.

Yes. If thats where you want to live, the f- off to london. We won't miss you.

You're getting personal. Use logic, and comment on my "lifeboat" theory. I personally don't think we can afford to keep supporting anyone and everyone that can sneak over here and pump out babies. If you want to support foreigners, it's a lot cheaper to pay them in their own countries, where the cost of living is a fraction of what it is here. And in choosing which foreigners that we are going to support, should we really be rewarding the ones that broke US law to sneak in here? Why not reward the ones who DIDN'T come here illegally?

[Aerovette]

People are going to continue to move here whether you like it or not. You can fight it to get nowhere and make both your lives more difficult or you can work to make it easier for everyone.

Ahhh ok. I get the logic.

People will continue to break into houses, so we need to stop locking the doors. Stop fighting the inevitable and just let it happen.

I think that is similar to what rapists say right? Stop fighting, it will be over soon.

Illegals rape our country...figuratively and literally and if it were legal to snipe them at the border, I would have a new hobby. :mad:

[RedLS1GTO]

Yes. If thats where you want to live, the f- off to london. We won't miss you.

It was a very simple question.

Should I be able to hop off the plane and call myself a British CITIZEN?

Yes or no?

[Aerovette]

It was a very simple question.

Should I be able to hop off the plane and call myself a British CITIZEN?

Yes or no?

In order to follow the template, you will need to come off that plane and make a lot of demands while waving an American flag. I assume you have the connections needed to set up an outdoor burger stand with lawn chairs and a home made business license.

[Iron Chef]

If I ever wanted to immigrate to another country I'd do it legally.

My dad's family came over in one of the boats that came along with the Mayflower. My great^7 grandfather signed the Declaration of Independence and was put on a British prison ship in New York Harbor because of it, ruining his health and his fortune. Another great grandfather fought in the Civil War and nearly got taken to Andersonville (he was an albino, they thought he was an old man and left him to die of his wounds.) My mom's family immigrated through Ellis Island in the late 1800's from Germany. Legally. They busted their asses, learned the language, and built farms and businesses.

I posted not long ago about my Mom and Grandmother coming here after being in the Concentration Camps for two years. They arrived at Ellis Island in 1948. My Mother's citizenship papers are dated 1949.

You're getting personal.

That's usually what happens when one is at the weaker end of an argument. Sometimes called a "straw man."

[boracayjohnny]

I posted not long ago about my Mom and Grandmother coming here after being in the Concentration Camps for two years. They arrived at Ellis Island in 1948. My Mother's citizenship papers are dated 1949.



That's usually what happens when one is at the weaker end of an argument. Sometimes called a "straw man."

Wow Mike, now that's a powerful life story. For both your folks and you.

[boracayjohnny]

:seasix: My wife and son are a fine example of doing it legally...It isn't quick or cheap, but it is worth it to me and to them.

Just for the healthcare and education alone that we are going to be able provide for our son is worth every penny.


On the other side - I also see why so many people take the risk to come here for those same reasons - their children. There is not much that I wouldn't do to make sure my boys have every opportunity available to them in their lives.

:seasix:

My wife also. Redundant applications and ~$750 per. It took about five years. I received pictures of her swearing in ceremony while deployed to Afghanistan. For me, the sun shined a little brighter that day.

[FasterTraffic]

Not to distract from the bickering but...

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[Iron Chef]

Wow Mike, now that's a powerful life story. For both your folks and you.

It gives you a different perspective of what it means to be a citizen of this country, that's for sure.

My Mom, who was from Poland, spoke five languages, and her English was excellent. But she did have a somewhat thick accent. She told me that she was learning it while she was in Belgium in anticipation of emigrating to America.

One time we were having dinner together and the server asked, politely, what was her nationality. Without hesitation she said "I'm an American." Not "African-American" or "Chinese-American" or even "Polish-American" but simply "American."

After he walked away, I asked her why she didn't say she was from Poland. She said "This country saved my life in so many ways. It's a privilege to be a citizen here."

It certainly was a different time.

[Blademaker]

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[boracayjohnny]

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That can't be right. That just can't be an accurate count of the fakery for Hilldawg.