View Full Version : Ultimate F.I. setup - what would yours be?
YELLOHH
11-13-2009, 2:12pm
:popcorns:
TTix setup on an 433-460 ci aluminum LSX tall deck block (not out yet but coming soon) with 6 bolt ET 245 heads. Should make 1000-1200 HP with not a ton of boost.
YELLOHH
11-13-2009, 4:26pm
TTix setup on an 433-460 ci aluminum LSX tall deck block (not out yet but coming soon) with 6 bolt ET 245 heads. Should make 1000-1200 HP with not a ton of boost.
How much coin, you figure?
How much coin, you figure?
22-25K by the time your done. This includes a BIG clutch but not a built rear and tranny. Add another 5k for that or another 6k if its an auto.
Peter Pan
11-13-2009, 5:30pm
F1R with an LSX 454, ETP LS7 style headshttp://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c293/elsloan22/emotions/mega-icon-smiley-thumbs-up-1.jpg
YELLOHH
11-13-2009, 5:43pm
22-25K by the time your done. This includes a BIG clutch but not a built rear and tranny. Add another 5k for that or another 6k if its an auto.
Since our cars are now worth < $20k now, that seems like a fantastic investment...
It would be fun to put that powertrain in a Factory Five GTM though. :drivingskid::auto:
Y2Kvert4me
11-13-2009, 6:32pm
Since our cars are now worth < $20k now, that seems like a fantastic investment...It sounds like a fun way to reward one's self and have fun with the money spent...But unless your build will set some of record that allows you to sell the car profitably (including all you put into it), and/or bank enough in won races to compensate...it's still just a money pit, otherwise known as a poor investment.
That said, I really like Kevin's idea too. :D
:cheers:
YELLOHH
11-13-2009, 6:48pm
Say you buy a new Z06 for $7x,xxx. You put $25k in the motor. I get it. But to put $25k in the motor of a $20k car?
There's a company called HPA that made a crazy TT kit for the VW R32. The kit was more than the car itself. It did top out at over 200 mph though.
Y2Kvert4me
11-13-2009, 7:05pm
Say you buy a new Z06 for $7x,xxx. You put $25k in the motor. I get it. But to put $25k in the motor of a $20k car?
There's a company called HPA that made a crazy TT kit for the VW R32. The kit was more than the car itself. It did top out at over 200 mph though.It's not tough at all to put more into the engine/drivetrain than what the car is worth. The cheaper the car, the more that applies.
There were $50k TT 427 engine packages being sold when the C5 was still the new and current model too.
Buying a <$20k C5 and dumping a mega-expensive engine into it might be more cost-effective than buying a new Z06/ZR-1, I agree....but it being a good investment, it definitely is not.
:cheers:
Even investments aren't much of an investment nowadays..:banghead::ack::(
thegreenman
11-13-2009, 8:54pm
I have a C6 not a C5 but I decided to go with the MagnaCharger TVS1900 for the stump pulling power on the street. I am not done yet, other upgrades in work and planned. Pulley upgrade done, intercooler installed, meth kit in work now and I will post here when I get some time off from work.
If I was to sell the Vette I wouldn't get but a small amount of return that I have put into it, I decided I wanted to invest in fun.
FrickNFrack
11-13-2009, 10:06pm
I would basically do what I already have.
Maybe a 402ci or a 427ci SC
Peter Pan
11-14-2009, 9:23am
My Boosted Vette is already a money pit, but I love it and driving it like I stole ithttp://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c293/elsloan22/emotions/mega-icon-smiley-thumbs-up-1.jpg
YELLOHH
11-14-2009, 10:34am
I have a C6 not a C5 but I decided to go with the MagnaCharger TVS1900 for the stump pulling power on the street. I am not done yet, other upgrades in work and planned. Pulley upgrade done, intercooler installed, meth kit in work now and I will post here when I get some time off from work.
If I was to sell the Vette I wouldn't get but a small amount of return that I have put into it, I decided I wanted to invest in fun.
Pretty much sounds like my set up, minus the intercooler. :cheers:
YELLOHH
11-14-2009, 10:39am
I would basically do what I already have.
Maybe a 402ci or a 427ci SC
What about a 416ci LS3? Why SC over TT?
FrickNFrack
11-14-2009, 11:46am
What about a 416ci LS3? Why SC over TT?
No reason for SC over TT. I do like the top mounted TT systems out there
What about a 416ci LS3? Why SC over TT?
Plumbing two sets of pipes, heat, and cost effectiveness. Priced a TT setup lately? :leaving:
thegreenman
11-14-2009, 6:02pm
I am hoping for a 427ci LS3 in a year or so. I went with the SC instead of TT because most of my driving is street performance. I think TT would be better on the drag strip where it can be spooled up before launching. Hard to complain about any SC or TT, each type has it pros and cons, they all kick azz.
Jeffyvette
11-25-2009, 8:08pm
My 383cc Lingenfelter TT (see the red car in my sig) is a pretty nice set up. Spools quick and makes good power. Basicly 700rwhp and 800 ft/lbs of torque. I am interested to see how it does in the 1 mile shoot out in March in California.
Jeffy'
edcmat-l1
12-21-2009, 2:01pm
The bigger motors don't work as well with FI. Less room for head gasket material between cyl, and the strokes too long.
Smaller motors.......
BTW, can't beat the low end of the PDs. Roger's makes 700 ft pounds at about 2500 rpm. Which equates to abso-freegin-useless on the street LOL. But it sho is funn!!
thegreenman
12-22-2009, 1:00am
The bigger motors don't work as well with FI. Less room for head gasket material between cyl, and the strokes too long.
Smaller motors.......
BTW, can't beat the low end of the PDs. Roger's makes 700 ft pounds at about 2500 rpm. Which equates to abso-freegin-useless on the street LOL. But it sho is funn!!
I will have to sit down with you when I am ready for the engine upgrade. I need to beef up the drivetrain first.
FRC Joe
01-21-2010, 9:45am
My ultimate setup would be;
Longblock
stock bore LS2 block, stock crank, Compstar rods, Wiseco pistons, LS9 or Katech oil squirters, DM Perf. block girdle, ECS blower cam, ARP studs/hardware, shoot for 9.5-10:1 CR
Retained
A&A T-Trim kit, Patriot LQ9 Heads, LS6 manifold and stock TB, Tex clutch
Blower Mods
Cartek Flip Drive, 8 rib Innovators West balancer + A&A 8 rib spacers, new style A&A IC and pax. side hose routing.
Misc
Short radiator for blower inlet clearance, RSI dual intank pump setup and cooresponding fuel system, 1-7/8" headers, Meziere pump
I had always thought I'd deal with Champion Motors up in Canada or ECS for the bottom end. However the more I read and see of Va. Speed the more I like. :cheers:
1slowvette
12-26-2012, 8:22am
I think i would go SC this time instead of the TT setup I have!! They are a lot simpler and less headache Oh and cheaper also!!
auctiondepot
05-04-2013, 6:43am
the ultimate FI setup has to account for the limitation of the drive train.
since 600 ft-lbs is enough to brake it, if you can get it to the ground, that's where I would stop.
More power sooner is the goal, so that's what a supercharger (TVS) does.
More power sooner is the goal, so that's what a bigger motor (LS7) does.
More power sooner is the goal, so that's what Tires (Mickey T's) do.
You have to remember, what goes fast needs to stop fast and as far as I'm concerned the C5 brakes are inadequate from the factory.
Forged 5.3 Motor with the best of the best parts.
Lopey Camshaft.
STS Rear Mount Setup with Oil-less turbos swapped in.
Wastegates as loud as possible.
MP112 Magnacharger with rear cogs & whine as loud as possible.
No cats, no mufflers.
Imagine the terrifying sound of that bad-boy approaching. Turbos whistling, waste-gates fluttering, engine loping, maggie whining, exhaust roaring.
Dumb-as-hell setup for achieving any particular power goal or 1/4 mile ET goal, yeah, but unique, head-turning, and stupid fun.
Stock hood with cut-out for maggie, black convertible, realistic flame paint job hood ---> sides, chrome wheels, lots of laughs. :dance::dance::dance:
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