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Montehall
03-09-2016, 3:26pm
does that fact that I recall almost none of it for my current class imply that I never satisfactorily learned it, or that it was so unused in "real" life, that I have never need it, and summarily forgot it?

DAB
03-09-2016, 3:30pm
i was told there would be no math.

i took, and passed, differential calc, and advanced diff. calc in college. never touched it again. :shrug:

Stevedore
03-09-2016, 3:43pm
I have a Master's degree in Mathematics. I think I used to enjoy it, but can't remember with any degree of certainty.

I did learn that a coffee mug is homeomorphic to a donut, if you want to talk about real-life uselessness.

Montehall
03-09-2016, 4:06pm
I have a Master's degree in Mathematics. I think I used to enjoy it, but can't remember with any degree of certainty.

I did learn that a coffee mug is homeomorphic to a donut, if you want to talk about real-life uselessness.
I learned the color codes for resistors on printed circuit boards in school for my job, and I've never needed it. EVER.
my job now is a glorified, card-swapping, monkey.

I really don't understand why crap like this is "required" learning

Craig
03-09-2016, 4:17pm
i was told there would be no math.

i took, and passed, differential calc, and advanced diff. calc in college. never touched it again. :shrug:

I never quite understood why it was important to know the slope of a point. Let alone the fourth derivative of a cotangent. Some of it was interesting, but I don't remember any of it now; I've never used it. I have used algebra and trig though.

Montehall
03-09-2016, 4:36pm
Geometry. I've used Geometry.

Thunder22
03-09-2016, 4:46pm
Learning math isn't only about the numbers and the formulas, it's about the logic and making your brain work in different ways. Everything you do involves math, especially music.

SQUIRMIN VERMIN 84
03-09-2016, 5:02pm
Algebra got me introduced to math formula and all but I never used algebra
per se, just the derivatives of ohm's law and all the electrical power formulae
I use in projects. Resistor color-coding I learned as a kid in my dad's tv repair
shop and that was handy in my telecommunications job as the code equates
with cable binding coding. All in all it turned on a process of analytical thinking, for me anyway...

CertInsaneC5
03-09-2016, 5:09pm
I still use algebra, trig and calc. In spreadsheets. I have not picked up a calculator in years.

GentleBen
03-09-2016, 5:57pm
I learned the color codes for resistors on printed circuit boards in school for my job, and I've never needed it. EVER.
my job now is a glorified, card-swapping, monkey.

I really don't understand why crap like this is "required" learning

This is what I was taught in Navy Basic Electricity/Electronics Prep (BEEP) school in the mid-60's "Bad Boys Rape Our Young Girls But Violet Gives Willingly. Get Some Now."

The above mnemonic refers to the following colors and/or tolerance levels: Black / Brown / Red / Orange / Yellow / Green / Blue / Violet / Gray / White

Gold / Silver / No Color

It's amazing what you can remember, even if you haven't used it in over 50-years. . .

CertInsaneC5
03-09-2016, 6:19pm
You remember the mnemonic. Do you remember the values and tolerances that they reference? :Jeff '79:

Datawiz
03-09-2016, 6:22pm
Calculus 1, 2, 3, Advanced Math, Differential Equations, Thermal Dynamics, Fluid Dynamics, blah blah blah, and all I now use is Algebra. :yesnod:

Most of my programming jobs are business related, so the math is not tough. I've forgotten a lot of what I once learned. I was a math whiz. :yesnod:

And now I'm a DATA WIZ :rofl:

GentleBen
03-09-2016, 6:44pm
You remember the mnemonic. Do you remember the values and tolerances that they reference? :Jeff '79:

Actually, I do. Keep in mind that they start at 0 and go to 9 in orders of magnitude. The G/S/N tolerances were 5%, 10% and no tolerance specified/required.

mrvette
03-09-2016, 7:01pm
I learned the color codes for resistors on printed circuit boards in school for my job, and I've never needed it. EVER.
my job now is a glorified, card-swapping, monkey.

I really don't understand why crap like this is "required" learning

Bad Boy Rape Our Young Girls But Violet Gives Willingly


any of you old fart ham radio/tech heads should know THAT!!!!!!:rofl:


OH Gee, Ben Bear there beat me 2 it......:kimblair::D

mrvette
03-09-2016, 7:04pm
I never quite understood why it was important to know the slope of a point. Let alone the fourth derivative of a cotangent. Some of it was interesting, but I don't remember any of it now; I've never used it. I have used algebra and trig though.

Sounds like the kinda crap my son is battling with to get his Ca. state master Surveyor's license.....tough battle at age 32, learning nothing in his college career.....:dance:

Bill
03-09-2016, 7:10pm
Geometry. I've used Geometry.

Pool player, huh?

Bill
03-09-2016, 7:12pm
This is what I was taught in Navy Basic Electricity/Electronics Prep (BEEP) school in the mid-60's "Bad Boys Rape Our Young Girls But Violet Gives Willingly. Get Some Now."

The above mnemonic refers to the following colors and/or tolerance levels: Black / Brown / Red / Orange / Yellow / Green / Blue / Violet / Gray / White

Gold / Silver / No Color

It's amazing what you can remember, even if you haven't used it in over 50-years. . .

Pics of Violet?

Montehall
03-09-2016, 7:26pm
Pool player, huh?
wood working

DAB
03-09-2016, 7:29pm
wood working

measure once, cut twice.....:slap::DAB:

SQUIRMIN VERMIN 84
03-09-2016, 10:01pm
Pics of Violet?


Well, ok........



http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/realbunky/real%20violet_zpst3pfnh4z.jpg

ZipZap
03-09-2016, 10:22pm
I have a Master's degree in Mathematics. I think I used to enjoy it, but can't remember with any degree of certainty.

I did learn that a coffee mug is homeomorphic to a donut, if you want to talk about real-life uselessness.

The torus is a powerful thing.

I found that engineering school was the basis for critical thinking. Don't bring me a solution unless you have the analytical support for your position. IDGAF about opinions, and engineering judgment is just opinion until backed up with analysis.

As far as using math, I like to build stuff. Decks, cars, walls, whatever. So geometry is a basic need. I also like to dabble in statistics. Statistical math relies on basic calculus. Most linear mathematics I currently engage in is taken care of by MatLab or other software language, however, it is important that I understand the methodology, and thus the limitations, of such software languages.

Entropy
03-09-2016, 10:39pm
I use a lot of algebra, but I teach chemistry, so there's that.

I refer to calculus on a regular basis (and even use it in some labs) but not all the time.

It does go hand in hand with problem solving. Not in a "plug in A, solve for B" manner, but in how to dissect a problem and think through them. My students don't like the approach, but they learn the value soon enough.

SteelCityBlue
03-10-2016, 12:24am
AS a chem major myself, this is why a small school chemist is often much better than a big school. No plug and play. You're the kind of prick that gives homework every other day as well, huh?

Olustee bus
03-10-2016, 4:23am
Algebra was one of only two college courses I failed. I went back and passed it.

At one time in my Financial review jobs I used lots of algebra. Sometimes I would have to study it. It really helped. I was reviewing hospital rate increases and the impact on their budget. They would show one thing on the actual rate increases but a different thing on the overall budget. I would employ some algebra and call them on it. I enjoyed it.

Black95
03-10-2016, 8:47am
Algebra got me introduced to math formula and all but I never used algebra
per se, just the derivatives of ohm's law and all the electrical power formulae
I use in projects. Resistor color-coding I learned as a kid in my dad's tv repair
shop and that was handy in my telecommunications job as the code equates
with cable binding coding. All in all it turned on a process of analytical thinking, for me anyway...

What???? The rat can think???
:cert:

8Up
03-10-2016, 8:54am
Math is a use it or lose it thing. I was really good in college, got an engineering degree. Now I can only remember the basic stuff as far as algebra and geometry and I got A's in both. I dont remember calculus at all. its the only class I got a C in all through college and I havent used it since. But at least I can tell people that I learned it once.

Entropy
03-10-2016, 9:22am
AS a chem major myself, this is why a small school chemist is often much better than a big school. No plug and play. You're the kind of prick that gives homework every other day as well, huh?
Homework is only due once a week (it usually takes 2 to 3 hours to complete) but I give quizzes every week.

I make them write full lab reports every week as well and keep data in a lab notebook/

Most of my students transfer (I teach at a community college) and they need a good foundation to be successful in the rest of their classes.

SteelCityBlue
03-10-2016, 10:22am
What are you teaching and how many students?

NeedSpeed
03-10-2016, 11:55am
http://img.ifcdn.com/images/ffdd7b270f7b36b7feda360afbf64ad7d360e77908f9cbc9a8bcf4172dd6c9fe_1.jpg

mrvette
03-10-2016, 12:39pm
http://img.ifcdn.com/images/ffdd7b270f7b36b7feda360afbf64ad7d360e77908f9cbc9a8bcf4172dd6c9fe_1.jpg

Is the Pie she ate round or square?, need get to the root of the problem.....:issues:

Entropy
03-10-2016, 1:37pm
What are you teaching and how many students?
I usually teach 3 different courses per semester. Course size is usually around 30 students, and I usually double up on at least one of the courses. So around 120 students per semester.

Courses I teach include:
Intro Chem - It's like 1 year of high school chem shoved into 1 semester.
Gen Chem - This is for your standard freshman course for chem, bio, engineering majors. 2 semester course and I teach both.
Intro to Organic/Biochem - This is for nursing and dental hygiene students. I also get some pre. pharm/med students who want a little background before tackling full blown organic chem.

NeedSpeed
03-10-2016, 2:10pm
I usually teach 3 different courses per semester. Course size is usually around 30 students, and I usually double up on at least one of the courses. So around 120 students per semester.

Courses I teach include:
Intro Chem - It's like 1 year of high school chem shoved into 1 semester.
Gen Chem - This is for your standard freshman course for chem, bio, engineering majors. 2 semester course and I teach both.
Intro to Organic/Biochem - This is for nursing and dental hygiene students. I also get some pre. pharm/med students who want a little background before tackling full blown organic chem.

https://i.imgflip.com/e2v8e.jpg

:D

Entropy
03-10-2016, 2:57pm
https://i.imgflip.com/e2v8e.jpg

:D
Ha! :Entropy:

There was a big discussion on this a few years ago based on this article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/29/opinion/sunday/is-algebra-necessary.html?_r=0

Craig
03-10-2016, 3:28pm
http://img.ifcdn.com/images/ffdd7b270f7b36b7feda360afbf64ad7d360e77908f9cbc9a8bcf4172dd6c9fe_1.jpg

*dat

DAB
03-10-2016, 6:00pm
There's some kids who might actually get into math if the problems were done like that. :funny:

antwan buys a kilo of smack for 100, he wants to step on it (cut it by half) and sell 1 oz bags for 20 each. what's his profit (assume he steals the creamer from momma's kitchen)? :dance:

CertInsaneC5
03-10-2016, 6:04pm
antwan buys a kilo of smack for 100, he wants to step on it (cut it by half) and sell 1 oz bags for 20 each. what's his profit (assume he steals the creamer from momma's kitchen)? :dance:

1310.96 :leaving:

mrvette
03-10-2016, 6:06pm
If a gal swims in the ocean for too much one day....what does she get????































Alge (in her)














bra........:seasix::D

Datawiz
03-10-2016, 6:06pm
1310.96 :leaving:

42

mrvette
03-10-2016, 6:14pm
What equals One over 2 pie root LC????


hope I tiped that right.....

:confused5:

DAB
03-10-2016, 6:20pm
antwan buys a kilo of smack for 100, he wants to step on it (cut it by half) and sell 1 oz bags for 20 each. what's his profit (assume he steals the creamer from momma's kitchen)? :dance:

1310.96 :leaving:

1kilo = 2.2 lb

1lb = 16 oz

so we have 35.2 oz of uncut smack. step on it once, and we have 70.4 oz of cut product. times 20 bucks each = 1400 (the 0.4 oz is given away to a 'friend'). minus the 100 he spent, that leaves a profit of 1300.

here we have conversion from metric to customary, and lb to oz, and multiplication and subtraction. a decent problem.

close enough Cert, full marks.

CertInsaneC5
03-10-2016, 9:04pm
1kilo = 2.2 lb

1lb = 16 oz

so we have 35.2 oz of uncut smack. step on it once, and we have 70.4 oz of cut product. times 20 bucks each = 1400 (the 0.4 oz is given away to a 'friend'). minus the 100 he spent, that leaves a profit of 1300.

here we have conversion from metric to customary, and lb to oz, and multiplication and subtraction. a decent problem.

close enough Cert, full marks.


Thanks Douglas. But you have huge rounding errors in that calculation.

One Kilo = 35.27396195 Oz. Stepped on = 70.547839 x 20 - 100 = 1310.95678. Shame on you. You should know better. And you never said anything about dipping into the stash. :D :leaving:

99 pewtercoupe
03-10-2016, 9:18pm
1kilo = 2.2 lb

1lb = 16 oz

so we have 35.2 oz of uncut smack. step on it once, and we have 70.4 oz of cut product. times 20 bucks each = 1400 (the 0.4 oz is given away to a 'friend'). minus the 100 he spent, that leaves a profit of 1300.

here we have conversion from metric to customary, and lb to oz, and multiplication and subtraction. a decent problem.

close enough Cert, full marks.

I thought you said there would be no math. :lol:

CertInsaneC5
03-10-2016, 9:20pm
I thought you said there would be no math. :lol:
He can't help himself. It's a disease I'm tellin' ya. :funnier:

DAB
03-10-2016, 9:28pm
Thanks Douglas. But you have huge rounding errors in that calculation.

One Kilo = 35.27396195 Oz. Stepped on = 70.547839 x 20 - 100 = 1310.95678. Shame on you. You should know better. And you never said anything about dipping into the stash. :D :leaving:

I thought you said there would be no math. :lol:

Well, maybe just a little math.

As for Antwan, you really think he has first class gear?

CertInsaneC5
03-10-2016, 9:39pm
Well, maybe just a little math.

As for Antwan, you really think he has first class gear?

Oh. BTW .4 oz = 8 not 10. You got ripped off. :D