2016 DAYTONA 500 - America's Race

[Jeff '79]

1pm today on FOX.
Only 40 cars are in the field today, as opposed to the usual 43.
Here is the qualifying order.
POS. CAR DRIVER TEAM
1. 24 Chase Elliott Hendrick Motorsports
2. 20 Matt Kenseth Joe Gibbs Racing
3. 88 Dale Earnhardt Jr. Hendrick Motorsports
4. 18 Kyle Busch Joe Gibbs Racing
5. 22 Joey Logano Team Penske
6. 1 Jamie McMurray Chip Ganassi Racing
7. 21 Ryan Blaney Wood Brothers Racing
8. 41 Kurt Busch Stewart-Haas Racing
9. 4 Kevin Harvick Stewart-Haas Racing
10. 19 Carl Edwards Joe Gibbs Racing
11. 11 Denny Hamlin Joe Gibbs Racing
12. 95 Ty Dillon Circle Sport-Leavine Family Racing
13. 5 Kasey Kahne Hendrick Motorsports
14. 42 Kyle Larson Chip Ganassi Racing
15. 16 Greg Biffle Roush Fenway Racing
16. 10 Danica Patrick Stewart-Haas Racing
17. 34 Chris Buescher Front Row Motorsports
18. 14 Brian Vickers Stewart-Haas Racing
19. 17 Ricky Stenhouse Jr. Roush Fenway Racing
20. 93 Matt DiBenedetto BK Racing
21. 3 Austin Dillon Richard Childress Racing
22. 46 Michael Annett HScott Motorsports
23. 6 Trevor Bayne Roush Fenway Racing
24. 38 Landon Cassill Front Row Motorsports
25. 2 Brad Keselowski Team Penske
26. 48 Jimmie Johnson Hendrick Motorsports
27. 7 Regan Smith Tommy Baldwin Racing
28. 78 Martin Truex Jr. Furniture Row Racing
29. 23 David Ragan BK Racing
30. 47 AJ Allmendinger JTG Daugherty Racing
31. 15 Clint Bowyer HScott Motorsports
32. 13 Casey Mears Germain Racing
33. 32 Bobby Labonte Go Green Racing
34. 43 Aric Almirola Richard Petty Motorsports
35. 44 Brian Scott Richard Petty Motorsports
36. 83 Michael Waltrip BK Racing
37. 27 Paul Menard Richard Childress Racing
38. 31 Ryan Newman Richard Childress Racing
39. 59 Michael McDowell Circle Sport-Leavine Family Racing
40. 26 Robert Richardson Jr. BK Racing

:drivingskid::drivingskid: Gidee-up!!

[Steve Austin]

Im ready. Have until 12:25 to pick drivers.Pre race starts at noon. I think they actually start at, 12:30 PM central.:drivingskid::drivingskid:

[Jeff '79]

Im ready. Have until 12:25 to pick drivers.Pre race starts at noon. I think they actually start at, 12:30 PM central.:drivingskid::drivingskid:

It's 70° and you're staying inside??? :D

[Steve Austin]

It's 70° and you're staying inside??? :D

53 and raining. Still not bad for February but yes, staying inside.:cert:

[Jeff '79]

53 and raining. Still not bad for February but yes, staying inside.:cert:

44° & cloudy here.
It was a great move to move the race up a week. One week makes a huge weather difference in Florida.

[Steve Austin]

44° & cloudy here.
It was a great move to move the race up a week. One week makes a huge weather difference in Florida.

:iagree: Hope they have clear skies for racing.
Never mind.

[Jeff '79]

:iagree: Hope they have clear skies for racing.
Do we get qualifying points for this race ?

No, prolly because of the qualifying format.
Sorry... No 10 points for Chase :D

[Steve Austin]

:iagree: Hope they have clear skies for racing.
Never mind.

No, prolly because of the qualifying format.
Sorry... No 10 points for Chase :D

Ninja edit, not ninja enough. Went to the site and realized you can still actually change drivers.:cert:

[wwomanC6]

I'm ready for some racing! :drivingskid::drivingskid:

Suppose to be 74 and thunderstorms this afternoon! Good stay inside with the window open and watch the race weather!


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[Jeff '79]

I'm reloading 9mm, doing laundry, just watched a movie about Cole Porter on TCM and now watching the Lost Weekend. 100 bullets to crimp and it's shower time !

[Burro (He/Haw)]

I'm reloading 9mm, doing laundry, just watched a movie about Cole Porter on TCM and now watching the Lost Weekend. 100 bullets to crimp and it's shower time !

Essential information here folks. :lol:

[Jeff '79]

Essential information here folks. :lol:

I will be essentially clean for the 500. :D

[Kerrmudgeon]

It's not on regular cable up here. Any good live links on the net? :bigears:

[Jeff '79]

Show time ! :dance:

[Fasglas]

I have a feeling we may see a RE-PEAT.
:yesnod:

22 :seasix:

[DAB]

they really need to park mike waltrip. :ack:

[Fasglas]

Radio just said 101,000+ fans there...

[Jeff '79]

Whoa!!! I hope Harvick is wearing a depend.
Chase Elliott is dunzo !! :hurray:

[wwomanC6]

Bunch of rookies! :lolsmile:

[Jeff '79]

Bunch of rookies! :lolsmile:

:rofl: .. :yesnod: He straight up lost it like Harvick did but couldn't save like the veteran did.

Ryan Blaney better finish well!!! I dumped Elliott for him in FN.:dance:

[Steve Austin]

Whoa!!! I hope Harvick is wearing a depend.
Chase Elliott is dunzo !! :hurray:

:rofl: .. :yesnod: He straight up lost it like Harvick did but couldn't save like the veteran did.

Ryan Blaney better finish well!!! I dumped Elliott for him in FN.:dance:

I kept the 24, had Blaney on the bench.:banghead::banghead:

[Jeff '79]

I kept the 24, had Blaney on the bench.:banghead::banghead:

:seasix: Excellent pick !!! Thank you !
Too much pressure on that NoOb. I saw that coming a mile away.
He should have just led a lap, went to the back and went to school..
To try to figure out the air in a pack like that is just insane.

[Steve Austin]

:seasix: Excellent pick !!! Thank you !
Too much pressure on that NoOb. I saw that coming a mile away.
He should have just led a lap, went to the back and went to school..
To try to figure out the air in a pack like that is just insane.

He may have thought he was pretty educsted after yesterday.:funnier:

[Steve Austin]

Yep, I picked the 19 too.:banghead::banghead:

[Jeff '79]

Yep, I picked the 19 too.:banghead::banghead:

Wow....

Earnhardt
Truex
Casey Mears
Blaney

[Steve Austin]

Wow....

39th & 40th place. Hell, Is it possible to get negative points ?:funnier::funnier:

[Jeff '79]

39th & 40th place. Hell, Is it possible to get negative points ?:funnier::funnier:

You'll be in a lot better shape after the big one happens.
Elliott is back on the track.
All is not lost..... Yet

[Steve Austin]

Yes the 24 is only 40 laps down. Can he get the lucky dog 40 times in one race ??:funnier::funnier:

[Jeff '79]

Yes the 24 is only 40 laps down. Can he get the lucky dog 40 times in one race ??:funnier::funnier:

No but 16 cars can disappear in the big one and you're magically in 24th place

[69camfrk]

Someone wake me up later when it's over. It's so boring I've already changed channels. So much for real racin':sadangel:

[Steve Austin]

The 88 was my A pick. No:funnier:w:funnier: I just need the 3 to crash.:woohoo:

[Jeff '79]

The 88 was my A pick. No:funnier:w:funnier: I just need the 3 to crash.:woohoo:

We all got him to win. No harm no foul

Not feeling all these commercial breaks

I hear that....:wtf:

[Steve Austin]

We all got him to win. No harm no foul



I hear that....:wtf:

He was awesome Thursday night. Stuff happens, I guess.

[Kerrmudgeon]

:hurray:....WHAT A FINISH!!! :party:

[wwomanC6]

Hamlin Hamster :hurray:

[Jeff '79]

Great finish ! :yesnod:

Horrible FN Day for me though. 210 points :cry:

Starters - 2, 19, 32, 36 :puke:

Backups - 1, 7, 9, 37

Most enjoyable day... :cert:

[Datawiz]

When does the fantasy site update?

[Jeff '79]

When does the fantasy site update?

Just add up the total. It usually takes an hour or two to update itself.

What ju get?

[Steve Austin]

[QUOTE=datawiz;1453927]When does the fantasy site update?[/QUOTE ]


Sometimes an hour or 2. Sometimes the next day for final scores. You can do the math though.
194 points here, I think. Ive had worse weeks.

[Datawiz]

Just add up the total. It usually takes an hour or two to update itself.

What ju get?

192

[Bluezey]

192

Group pick have you not having made any picks! :confused5:

[Datawiz]

Group pick have you not having made any picks! :confused5:

Huh?

[Bluezey]

my bad , just rechecked

[Datawiz]

my bad , just rechecked

"My Team Score" says 222. I'm way confused. :lol::datawiz:

[Datawiz]

7th! Not bad for a rookie. Little E left me hanging. :slap:

[Hoog]

"My Team Score" says 222. I'm way confused. :lol::datawiz:
Laps led bonus?

I ended up with 240...I'll take it.

[carlton_fritz]

NASCAR lost me last year when they gave Kryle a pass and let him compete for the championship, which he then won as I predicted.

[Datawiz]

Laps led bonus?

I ended up with 240...I'll take it.

Yeah, I got another 30 points for laps lead.

[Jeff '79]

Whew!! 10th place...

Looks like Jeff is taking up where he left off last year :seasix::leaving:

[Burro (He/Haw)]

Who won?

[Jeff '79]

Who won?

Denny Hamlin

[Datawiz]

Denny Hamlin

SUPERFLO Motor Oil

:leaving:

[Jeff '79]

SUPERFLO Motor Oil

:leaving:

:Jeff '79:

[69camfrk]

Who won?

Bobby Allison....Oh, my bad, that was when Nascrap was actually fun to watch. It's a doomed sport.......

[Jeff '79]

Bobby Allison....Oh, my bad, that was when Nascrap was actually fun to watch. It's a doomed sport.......

Speak for yourself.:spdchk:

Posting this here is constructive, why?
Start your own bashing thread.

[69camfrk]

Speak for yourself.:spdchk:

Posting this here is constructive, why?
Start your own bashing thread.

We've had this discussion, and Jeff, I consider you a friend. That said, like so many other things, Nascar has ruled itself to death, the cars and their drivers have essentially 0 identity with anyone. It's a bunched up field of identical cars that shouldn't even be allowed in the series and a Nascar race could put me to sleep faster than a truck load of Xanax. I realize that we cant' turn time back, but there is a reason the stands aren't filled up any more. They know it, but won't admit to their own failures as a sanctioning body. I caught a few minutes of it, but it damn sure wasn't worth a few hours of my life. I'm not entirely trying to bash, I just wish they would see the error of their ways and fix it, but unfortunately that car has left the garage.

[Steve Austin]

Speak for yourself.:spdchk:

Posting this here is constructive, why?
Start your own bashing thread.

:iagree: We do this for fun.

[Jeff '79]

We've had this discussion, and Jeff, I consider you a friend. That said, like so many other things, Nascar has ruled itself to death, the cars and their drivers have essentially 0 identity with anyone. It's a bunched up field of identical cars that shouldn't even be allowed in the series and a Nascar race could put me to sleep faster than a truck load of Xanax. I realize that we cant' turn time back, but there is a reason the stands aren't filled up any more. They know it, but won't admit to their own failures as a sanctioning body. I caught a few minutes of it, but it damn sure wasn't worth a few hours of my life. I'm not entirely trying to bash, I just wish they would see the error of their ways and fix it, but unfortunately that car has left the garage.
Ya, ya, ya...We'd be beating a dead horse. Like the NFL, NBA, NHL,US Gov, all have run their course but we are stuck with them.
It seems fantasy NASCAR keeps it interesting for a lot of people though. No, it's not the same, but nothing is these days.
It is what it is and it just gets old hearing about how bad it is because actually, it's not as bad as nothing.
I don't hold any I'll will toward you either:cert:

[JRD77VET]

Whew!! 10th place...

Looks like Jeff is taking up where he left off last year :seasix::leaving:

176 points

:leaving:

[Steve Austin]

Whew!! 10th place...

Looks like Jeff is taking up where he left off last year :seasix::leaving:

176 points

:leaving:

Looks like we all had the 88.:willy:
I forgot the laps led points. Ended up with 224. And who the heck is this Superflow guy ???

[JRD77VET]

Looks like we all had the 88.:willy:
I forgot the laps led points. Ended up with 224. And who the heck is this Superflow guy ???

Superflo is the guy who is kicking our asses :lol:

[Steve Austin]

Superflo is the guy who is kicking our asses :lol:

I want to know who he is, so I can send Milton Fox after him for revenge.:issues:

[island14]

It's rigged I'm telling yah! It's rigged!!!

those guys all tapped the brakes in the last corner to let him pass..

:lol:

[island14]

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[Burro (He/Haw)]

Speak for yourself.:spdchk:

Posting this here is constructive, why?
Start your own bashing thread.

I'd rather Marilyn Manson beat off on my titties than watch NASCAR.

There.


Bite me.

[Olustee bus]

Didn't think I would but I did enjoy it.

[Milton Fox]

224 - thank you bonus points!

I had both Jr and Chase! :willy:

[Kerrmudgeon]

a lot of napcar races are boring but that one was worth watching, great ending!. :thumbs:

[Jeff '79]

I'd rather Marilyn Manson beat off on my titties than watch NASCAR.

There.


Bite me.

Me too.... :drool:

[Hoog]

Me too.... :drool:

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Marilyn Manson, Jeff.

[Datawiz]

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Marilyn Manson, Jeff.

:iagree: :rofl::rofl::rofl:

[island14]

Jeff's not having a good day... :Jeff '79:

[Fasglas]

At least DANICA did what she does best...

[Steve Austin]

224 - thank you bonus points!

I had both Jr and Chase! :willy:

Me too. Must havehad the same picks.:cert:

[Fasglas]

She got airborne and still kept the car out of the wall.

Really? SHE kept it off the wall? Too bad "all that talent" wasn't too apparent ON the track...

[VatorMan]

Really? SHE kept it off the wall? Too bad "all that talent" wasn't too apparent ON the track...

SHE had help with her incident-Unlike JR. who did it all by himself.

BTW- Hamlin's setup and pass for the win was a thing of beauty.

[RedLS1GTO]

SHE had help with her incident-Unlike JR. who did it all by himself.

Define "help"...

She turned down across Biff's nose. There's pretty much nobody to blame but her (and her spotter) on that one. :shrug:

[NeedSpeed]

224 - thank you bonus points!

I had both Jr and Chase! :willy:

:iagree:

Truex and Carl saved me. Top 5 :party:

[Gozar]

Bobby Allison....Oh, my bad, that was when Nascrap was actually fun to watch. It's a doomed sport.......

I love how some people feel the absolute need to come piss all over a thread.

Do you feel better now?

:rolleyes:

[Gozar]

It was a great race yesterday with an amazing finish!

My FN was awful though... started the 88. :( Also had the 24.

208 points... ouch. :slap:

[Jeff '79]

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Marilyn Manson, Jeff.

:iagree: :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Ya, I know who Marilyn Manson is.
I was just kidding. :D

[Datawiz]

Ya, I know who Marilyn Manson is.
I was just kidding. :D

This is 2016, there's nothing wrong with your fetish. :lol:

[Jeff '79]

This is 2016, there's nothing wrong with your fetish. :lol:

:D

[69camfrk]

It was a great race yesterday with an amazing finish!

My FN was awful though... started the 88. :( Also had the 24.

208 points... ouch. :slap:

Yes I do feel better. Nascar used to be awesome until they collectively abandoned their fan base, and threw every pos with wheels into the field. If I've said it once, I've said it a million times, there is just nothing to identify with anymore. With the exception of a very small minority of drivers, most of these guys have been spoon fed from the get go, and hell, some of them still aren't any good. Sometimes, grittier drivers with actual opinions, and race cars that look like their civilian counterpart is a good thing. I used to love Nascar, but yesterday I had some paint to watch dry......

[Gozar]

Yes I do feel better. Nascar used to be awesome until they collectively abandoned their fan base, and threw every pos with wheels into the field. If I've said it once, I've said it a million times, there is just nothing to identify with anymore. With the exception of a very small minority of drivers, most of these guys have been spoon fed from the get go, and hell, some of them still aren't any good. Sometimes, grittier drivers with actual opinions, and race cars that look like their civilian counterpart is a good thing. I used to love Nascar, but yesterday I had some paint to watch dry......

How about you start a thread called, "I'm grumpy and I hate NASCAR"?

Then you and the other haters can jerk each other off about how much you don't like the sport anymore in there.

[Burro (He/Haw)]

but yesterday I had some paint to watch dry......
What color paint? Do you find the lighter colors tend to dry more quickly than the darker colors or is it just an illusion?

For example, Rapture Blue tends to dry quicker than Concord Grape.


Or does it?



:leaving:

It's, THE BALL!!
:ball:

[Jeff '79]

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Milton Fox]

FS1 is doing a rebroadcast this evening at 7 PM Central time. :woohoo:

You guys that like to watch paint dry; would you try British Racing Green against Petty Blue these evening for us and let us know which one is faster! :popcorns:

[Gozar]

What color paint? Do you find the lighter colors tend to dry more quickly than the darker colors or is it just an illusion?

For example, Rapture Blue tends to dry quicker than Concord Grape.


Or does it?



:leaving:

It's, THE BALL!!
:ball:



:lol:

[Burro (He/Haw)]

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

This guy get's it. A couple others? Not so much. I do find it interesting that when your 'sport' for lack of a better word get's criticized people find a crushing need to defend it.


This is a public forum. Last time I checked? We were allowed to have differing opinions.

Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to go beat off to a Danica picture.


:funnier:

[Jeff '79]

This guy get's it. A couple others? Not so much. I do find it interesting that when your 'sport' for lack of a better word get's criticized people find a crushing need to defend it.


This is a public forum. Last time I checked? We were allowed to have differing opinions.

Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to go beat off to Danica's front tire.

:funnier:

Fixt

[Gozar]

This guy get's it. A couple others? Not so much. I do find it interesting that when your 'sport' for lack of a better word get's criticized people find a crushing need to defend it.


This is a public forum. Last time I checked? We were allowed to have differing opinions.

Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to go beat off to a Danica picture.


:funnier:

Of course it's a public forum. Of course different opinions are always welcome.

Now, why the compelling need to piss on the same topic over and over?

i.e. Anytime someone posts about chocolate chip cookies a member feels the need to say they hate chocolate chip cookies. Why? After the first 10 times we understand you don't like them. Beyond that it is being negative for the sake of being negative.

If you or anyone else wants to continue to talk about how much you hate chocolate chip cookies then by all means, start a thread and go to town!!!

Nobody is stopping anyone from starting a thread about disliking NASCAR.

[Datawiz]

Here's another viewpoint...

I hold the exact same opinion of NASCAR as others here do that it's boring as shit now. Having said that, yesterday's race, especially the finish, were very fun to watch.

Regardless of that, the biggest reason it was fun for me again, for the first time in about 15 years, is that I'm playing Fantasy NASCAR with you misfits.

The "challenge" to win adds a whole new dimension to watching the sport. :datawiz:

My $0.02.

[Gozar]

Here's another viewpoint...

I hold the exact same opinion of NASCAR as others here do that it's boring as shit now. Having said that, yesterday's race, especially the finish, were very fun to watch.

Regardless of that, the biggest reason it was fun for me again, for the first time in about 15 years, is that I'm playing Fantasy NASCAR with you misfits.

The "challenge" to win adds a whole new dimension to watching the sport. :datawiz:

My $0.02.

A lot of people experience the same thing with the NFL. Fantasy sports add a whole new element of entertainment.

:yesnod:

[RedLS1GTO]

She did, but Biffle could have given a 1/4 lift that would have kept himself out of the wall. Only 2 cars behind him it wouldn't have caused an incident. Only 16 to go nobody is lifting and everybody is blocking. It was just a racing incident.

He had a massive run. He held a line. She was tried to block WAY too late. That is 100% on her.

And no, it has nothing to do with Danica hate. I would say the exact same thing if it was the other way around.

All Videos (http://www.nascar.com/en_us/news-media/franchises/all-videos.sprint-cup-series-daytona-500-highlight-danica-patrick-spin.4766622892001.html)


If I'm going to make fun of her, it would be for this one... when she wrecked all on her own for absolutely no reason at all during the duels... pay attention. In the first view you can see her car come into the frame, already slowed down. She gets clear of the wreck, stands on the gas, and puts it in the infield. Oopsie. :rofl:

All Videos (http://www.nascar.com/en_us/news-media/franchises/all-videos.sprint-cup-series-daytona-can-am-duel-final-laps-jimmie-johnson-matt-kenseth-crash.4763520770001.html)

[Jeff '79]

Here's another viewpoint...

I hold the exact same opinion of NASCAR as others here do that it's boring as shit now. Having said that, yesterday's race, especially the finish, were very fun to watch.

Regardless of that, the biggest reason it was fun for me again, for the first time in about 15 years, is that I'm playing Fantasy NASCAR with you misfits.

The "challenge" to win adds a whole new dimension to watching the sport. :datawiz:

My $0.02.

A lot of people experience the same thing with the NFL. Fantasy sports add a whole new element of entertainment.

:yesnod:
:iagree:
There are great races, there are good races, and there are really boring races.
Fantasy NASCAR. Adds an element that makes every race interesting, not necessarily good, but interesting..
Same with football. The Bills blow goats, but with FF, the entire league interests me.

[Jeff '79]

I don't know, man. I always get bored with fantasy. Too many stats to keep track of. Too much tv to watch. But hey, if thats what you're into then party on Wayne.

Pffft....Stats???.....I just guess.

[Jeff '79]

You're the guy who closes his eyes and points to the race horses in the program, huh? I respect your dangerous lifestyle.

Ya, and all that got me was third last year..... Geez!!

[Jeff '79]

Out of 3?

25ish

[island14]

You're the guy who closes his eyes and points to the race horses in the program, huh? I respect your dangerous lifestyle.


:Jeff '79:

[island14]

I like Chocolate Chip Cookies and Milk.. :datawiz:

If it was on TV here I'd watch it.. I'd watch anything Racing, Sprints, Midgets, Stock Cars even Dirt Cars makes no difference to me.

I just like racing.. :island14:

I do like Road Course Racing also, but feel like Oval Track Racing is more spectator friendly as you can see the whole race track without leaving your seat.

I have to admit with NASCAR that now over the years about all of the names and faces have changed and I don't know who over half of them are anymore so makes it less interesting to me.

Probably why I don't comment much in most of these threads..

But a few of the names I remember long before they ever made it to NASCAR..


:cert:

[Jeff '79]

I like Chocolate Chip Cookies and Milk.. :datawiz:

If it was on TV here I'd watch it.. I'd watch anything Racing, Sprints, Midgets, Stock Cars even Dirt Cars makes no difference to me.

I just like racing.. :island14:

I do like Road Course Racing also, but feel like Oval Track Racing is more spectator friendly as you can see the whole race track without leaving your seat.

I have to admit with NASCAR that now over the years about all of the names and faces have changed and I don't know who over half of them are anymore so makes it less interesting to me.

Probably why I don't comment much in most of these threads..

But a few of the names I remember long before they ever made it to NASCAR..


:cert:

You're always welcome to troll here ! :jeff:

:D

[RedLS1GTO]

But a few of the names I remember long before they ever made it to NASCAR..

So how old does it make you feel to see Jeff Gordon RETIRED and Bill Elliott's kid replacing him in the car? :willy:

[Datawiz]

So how old does it make you feel to see Jeff Gordon RETIRED and Bill Elliott's kid replacing him in the car? :willy:

I feel extremely old. I watched Gordon in the Baby Ruth car, and saw his first Cup race. :willy:

[VatorMan]

I also just like racing. Not really even into nascar to be honest. I don't think the discipline matters to those of us who know what it feels like to hold down the throttle and pray it sticks.

Same here. Going up the uphill esses at Watkins Glen side by side puts your heart in your throat. Imagine doing that for 4 hours straight on a raceway at 200 MPH. The car control those guys know is second to none. F1 doesn't do it. IMSA to a small extent. Air does funny things when other cars are around you. This is why NASCAR fascinates me.

[Gozar]

I always get a chill going through there. That's where he was killed.

<------

The guard rail right?

[Gozar]

Correct. He landed upside down on top of the guardrail over the tunnel. Some folks say he hit the curbing on the left which threw him into the guardrail on the right. He bounced off that and landed upside down on the opposite side. Some say he just lost it. He left the car in 4th even though Jackie told him to upshift to 5th because the car was difficult to control at the crest in 4th. No one told Francois that Jackie was retiring after the race. He was still trying to qual on the pole to earn his seat for '74 when he found out the Depailler had already been signed for next season as the #2 driver. He thought he was being replaced, not promoted.

Photo from earlier that day approaching the spot. (Linked because it's a big picture) Picture (http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/auto-racing-us-grand-prix-qualifying-francois-cevert-in-action-during-picture-id145028448)


:sadangel::sadangel:

That track has been particularly brutal throughout the years. :sadangel:

[island14]

So how old does it make you feel to see Jeff Gordon RETIRED and Bill Elliott's kid replacing him in the car? :willy:

Older I guess.. :(

I remember when Gordon was still running USAC Sprints, a few years before he went Busch racing, and remember watching him and Rich Vogler tear up the track one night at Winchester.

No one else was even on the same lead lap with them if I remember right.

Dad and a friend of his Johnny Vance (USAC Car Owner) were talking that night about how he (The Kid) had no fear as he had never been hurt yet or had a bad crash at the time.

Brad Keselowski I don't remember, but sure do remember his Father Bob racing in ARCA.

Ryan Newman was still racing Midgets when I met him, we were at a Championship banquet around 1993 or 94 I think.. when he won his class championship for the year, and was also awarded the DARF Driver of the Year award

I still have a copy of the program from that night here somewhere as it was in my Dad's scrap book.

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