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99 pewtercoupe
12-29-2015, 8:54am
ARLINGTON COUNTY, Va., Dec. 28 (UPI) -- In four months, travelers in five states might not be able to board domestic flights unless they produce more than a driver's license to verify their identity -- a prospect the Transportation Security Administration is expected to settle this week.

Since it took over airport security in 2001, the TSA has permitted fliers to board domestic flights with nothing more than a valid U.S. driver's license. The Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks, though, eventually led Congress to pass a law mandating citizens undergo a tougher process to obtain one -- a move intended to enhance national security.

The U.S. Department of Homeland Security has yet to enforce the law. That may change in a matter of weeks.

The Real ID Act, passed in 2005, established a set of verification standards states must impose and citizens must meet in the issuing of identification records, including driver's licenses. So far, 22 states have complied with the law. Nineteen states have not fully complied, but have made enough progress to earn an extension -- and four states are being reviewed for an extension.

The remaining five states -- Illinois, Minnesota, Missouri, New Mexico and Washington -- have been deemed "noncompliant" -- and travelers in those states may have to produce a passport for domestic travel starting in late April.

"The purposes covered by the act are: accessing federal facilities, entering nuclear power plants, and, no sooner than 2016, boarding federally regulated commercial aircraft," the TSA says on its website.

The DHS, which operates the TSA, said it will release an official schedule this week specifying exactly if and when airports in noncompliant states will begin rejecting driver's licenses for domestic travel.

It's unclear exactly what day the DHS will issue the schedule, but officials previously said it would come before the end of 2015, which looms Friday.

Some states have resisted implementing the tougher standards out of privacy concerns -- and some have even passed laws barring motor vehicle departments from complying with the federal law.

"This is a game of intimidation being played out between Congress and the federal government and state governments, with ordinary citizens being squeezed in the middle," privacy advocate Edward Hasbrouck told The New York Tmes.

Some experts wonder whether the TSA will actually enforce the law in 2016 since it has gone unenforced for 10 years and could create a host of potential problems for travelers.

For example, fliers under the enforced law may only need a driver's license to board a flight in their state -- but would need another form of ID to return home if they travel to one of the five states that have yet to comply.

Which states are compliant?

Compliant: Alabama, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Maryland, Mississippi, Nebraska, Nevada, Ohio, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah, Vermont, West Virginia, Wisconsin, Wyoming

Received an extension: Arizona, Arkansas, Idaho, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, Montana, New Hampshire, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Texas, Virginia

Under review: Alaska, California, New Jersey, South Carolina

Noncompliant: Illinois, Minnesota, Missouri, New Mexico, Washington

Will be interesting to see how it plays out.


TSA: Travelers in 5 states may need more than license to fly - UPI.com (http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2015/12/28/TSA-expected-to-decide-whether-to-allow-drivers-licenses-for-US-travel-in-5-noncompliant-states/1951451350205/)

Jobaka
12-29-2015, 1:22pm
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Cybercowboy
12-29-2015, 1:29pm
I wonder what exactly makes Missouri non-compliant? Eh, I always keep my passport up-to-date anyway. My guess is it has something to do with what happened three years ago with our CCW permits. You had to go to the DMV to get your CCW permit - it looked like a state ID card or non-driver driver's license. But our governor Nixon (D) sent all the CCW information to the feds, because he's a f-ing douchebag. The state house/senate passed a law making this illegal and now the various sheriff's office issues the permit right there, keeping the info locally. I'm sure this angered someone at the federal level.

Our driver's licenses have a mag-strip, holograms, all that stuff.

Edit: Just looked at my DL, it doesn't have a mag strip, it has a funky barcode strip on the back that sorta looks like one.

Mike Mercury
12-29-2015, 1:38pm
our governor... sent all the CCW information to the feds, because he's a f-ing socialist


maybe this too.

Cybercowboy
12-29-2015, 1:44pm
maybe this too.

He's a real dickwad. Also held the National Guard back a year ago and let the thugs burn down Ferguson.

99 pewtercoupe
12-29-2015, 2:02pm
Illinois DL has holagram and 2 D bar code on the back also

last time we renewed our passports we opted to get the passport card also.
Same size as a DL so you can carry it in your wallet.

Cybercowboy
12-29-2015, 2:06pm
Illinois DL has holagram and 2 D bar code on the back also

last time we renewed our passports we opted to get the passport card also.
Same size as a DL so you can carry it in your wallet.

I didn't know about the passport card, interesting. Our passports need to be renewed in three years or so, I'll try to remember that.

Jobaka
12-29-2015, 4:54pm
I didn't know about the passport card, interesting. Our passports need to be renewed in three years or so, I'll try to remember that.

The U.S. Passport Card can be used to enter the United States from Canada, Mexico, the Caribbean, and Bermuda at land border crossings or sea ports-of-entry and is more convenient and less expensive than a passport book. The passport card cannot be used for international travel by air.

Passport Card (http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/passports/information/card.html)