A little common sense is spreading across America...

[lspencer534]

The list of governors who are either pausing or altogether halting acceptance of Syrian refugees into their states following Friday’s terror attacks in Paris continues to grow. And fast. These are the States so far:

http://i63.tinypic.com/w83ku1.jpg

Though the list is largely made up of Republican governors, New Hampshire’s governor Maggie Hassan is a notable exception.

The Chicago Tribune reports on one of today’s recent additions, President Obama’s home state of Illinois.

So far, at least one governor is following suit with Obama– Democrat Gov. Dannel Malloy of Connecticut, who downplayed any security threat from incoming refugees, describing them as “a small number” and added they were, “a number over which you could do a lot of security background checks and that sort of thing.”

I guess Gov. Malloy missed the admission from our own FBI that there’s really no way to screen “refugees” coming from Syria. Just last month, FBI head James Comey testified before Congress acknowledging it was not possible for the U.S. to properly vet the Syrian refugees because there are no data points that would show the past activity of the vast majority of Syrians.

MUTINY: List of states saying no to refugees growing fast, despite Obama - Allen B. West - AllenBWest.com (http://www.allenbwest.com/2015/11/developing-list-of-states-saying-no-to-refugees-growing-fast-despite-obama/)

[Craig]

I wonder what Georgia will do. We have a Republican Governor, but the Mayor of Atlanta is a flaming Lib, Atlanta is one of the so-called "sanctuary cities".

[ApexOversteer]

I'm hoping Tennessee will join the club...

[lspencer534]

I wonder what Georgia will do. We have a Republican Governor, but the Mayor of Atlanta is a flaming Lib, Atlanta is one of the so-called "sanctuary cities".

If The Governor wants to be re-elected, he'll not allow the "refugees". Although Atlanta is a big City, obviously the rest of the State isn't as liberal. I'm sure the Governor realizes he wasn't elected by Atlanta voters.

[lspencer534]

I wonder what Georgia will do. We have a Republican Governor, but the Mayor of Atlanta is a flaming Lib, Atlanta is one of the so-called "sanctuary cities".

Here's your answer:

Deal: Georgia will not accept Syrian refugees | Governor Nathan Deal Office of the Governor (http://gov.georgia.gov/press-releases/2015-11-16/deal-georgia-will-not-accept-syrian-refugees)

[Cybercowboy]

Missouri won't be on that list because of our useless Governor Nixon (D). Oh, and Sen. Claire "all college men are rapists" McCaskill...

[Rob]

I'm hoping Tennessee will join the club...

We did

[Rob]

5942

[Jeff '79]

They're talking about it here in NYS.
THey won't..... Puzzies

The Buffalo News | Buffalo's Number One Source For Breaking News | The Buffalo Newspaper Online (http://www.buffalonews.com/)

[VITE1]

The NH governor is a flaming liberal idiot. She is asking for more "Scrutiny" but i can't find any statement saying 'we will not take them".

State leaders say US should examine immigration policies | Politics - WMUR Home (http://www.wmur.com/politics/gov-hassan-believes-feds-should-halt-acceptance-of-syrian-refugees/36479608)

And it's even more baffling since Manchester NH took in a great number of Somalis and they have failed assimilate and have caused major issues for the police in Manchester.

[Bill]

The problem is this is merely feel good talk. Unless the governors plan a Little Rock style confrontation using the states' National Guard troops to physically block the refugees from entering the states, I don't see what practical protections this provide the citizens of those states.

We had a pretty horrific case of murder a few months ago, a cop was executed at a gas station, shot from behind, multiple times. This happened in a nice part of the suburbs. Turns out, the shooter and his mother lived in a Section 8 house....right there in the suburb. Uncle Sam will use his force and our money to put undesirables wherever he wants, governors and citizens' opinions be damned.

[lspencer534]

The problem is this is merely feel good talk. Unless the governors plan a Little Rock style confrontation using the states' National Guard troops to physically block the refugees from entering the states, I don't see what practical protections this provide the citizens of those states.

We had a pretty horrific case of murder a few months ago, a cop was executed at a gas station, shot from behind, multiple times. This happened in a nice part of the suburbs. Turns out, the shooter and his mother lived in a Section 8 house....right there in the suburb. Uncle Sam will use his force and our money to put undesirables wherever he wants, governors and citizens' opinions be damned.

I agree with you only on legalities. Yes, the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution overrides the States' powers to prevent enforcement of Federal laws. But I'm betting that Obama won't risk a National Guard type of confrontation for the following reasons:

One, he has only a year left in power. Any actual confrontation will be several months away, and I don't think Obama is willing to tarnish his legacy by leaving the Nation at war against itself.

Two, your point about no one having control over where the "refugees" settle after gaining admittance to this Country only supports the position of the resisting States: While a citizen may support Obama on humanitarian grounds, I doubt that the citizen wants the refugees in his neighborhood. The NIMBY syndrome, in other words.

Three, the Democrats running for President will be furious if they have to tow the Party line in favor of admittance of these "refugees": They'll look like Republicans if they side with the States in opposition to admittance.

Four, this issue gives the Republicans a lot of credibility in opposing the liberals. Obama's policy of admitting these "refugees" is hard to accept by most people and has, IMO, a tenuous following even among liberals. I can't believe that the electorate will be won by a liberal if the key issue is the admittance of these "refugees"

My predictions will be off the mark perhaps if there is no ISIS attack here in the coming year, which would be the smart thing for them to do in order to get a Democrat President elected. If they can't resist an attack, then it's a Republican shoo-in.

[Bill]

I don't think Obama is willing to tarnish his legacy by leaving the Nation at war against itself.


Too late!




My Mom lives in a nice neighborhood that, in combination with a few other nearby neighborhoods and a golf course, are becoming like Fort Apache, the Bronx....surrounded by up and coming "diverse" (read: ghetto] neighborhoods. There are at least 2 mosques within a 2 mile radius of her subdivision. As if this was not enough, our Uncle Sam has insisted on putting up "affordable housing" (read: Section 8 crime zone apartments), also within a 2 mile radius of her subdivision. The subdivisions got together and lobbied their Congress critters, but to no avail. I'm quite sure Uncle Hobama took delight in bringing more of his voters to very close proximity with those neighborhoods. And there was nothing our Congress critters could do about it. This will be the way our new Syrian neighbors will be distributed. We won't get to consent to where they are placed, but you can be sure we will be taxed to place them, house them, feed them, etc. Maybe we will catch a break, though, and Saudi Arabia will build their mosques for them, instead of putting that on the US taxpayers' tab, too.

[JRD77VET]

Our stupid tax raising D governor here in PA wants to keep letting them in. :bslap:

I can guarantee I will NOT be retiring in PA with all the new higher taxes :cuss:

[Rob]

What if we built a huge city in the middle of nowhere and let them all settle there. Restrict travel into and out of the area until they all assimilate to this nations standards.

[Sneaks]

You can bet this lib ass state wont even think about it. Time to buy more ammo.......:leaving:

[NEED-A-VETTE]

Updated list as of 10:30 PM Eastern.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c343/sandyeas/Mobile%20Uploads/4561E08C-C932-4EE4-86D2-098CE71DCDC2_zpsqfhpfjzx.jpg

[Wathen1955]

Wonder what Gov Moon Beam will do for CA? Wait, I already know. Bring them all here.

[69camfrk]

What if we built a huge city in the middle of nowhere and let them all settle there. Restrict travel into and out of the area until they all assimilate to this nations standards.

The will never assimilate...never.

[6spdC6]

I live in the people’s republic of NY and have no doubt our ultra-liberal from NY city phucktard of a governor will welcome those muzzie invaders! I used the word invaders as that is just the non-politically correct definition of them and their religious cults plans for this country

[Iron Chef]

What if we built a huge city in the middle of nowhere and let them all settle there. Restrict travel into and out of the area until they all assimilate to this nations standards.

Why build? I hear Auschwitz-Birkenau is available.

[Rob]

Why build? I hear Auschwitz-Birkenau is available.

I don't want them dead, I want everyone safe from one another until a reasonable understanding and mutual agreement can be made between all individuals as to how they will begin to be introduced into the public sector.

[Iron Chef]

I don't want them dead, I want everyone safe from one another until a reasonable understanding and mutual agreement can be made between all individuals as to how they will begin to be introduced into the public sector.

In a perfect world, I'd agree with you. But here's the rub: The people who have come out of Syria have proven time and again that there are no such things as "reasonable understandings" and "mutual agreements". And too many innocent people have paid with their lives because we continue to overlook these warning signs. I think most people have grown tired of the "women and children" nonsense as an excuse for turning a blind eye to what will eventually cause more harm.

In other words, go refugee somewhere else.

Better still, cause a revolution and overthrow the Assad regime that foments this kind of idiocy. But that would mean standing up and fighting, which we all know these people don't know how to do.

[Jobaka]

Wonder what Gov Moon Beam will do for CA? Wait, I already know. Bring them all here.

He has stated that he wants to work with the Obama administration to make sure the refugees are properly vetted, despite the fact that the head of the FBI has stated there is no way to do that.

[Rob]

Better still, cause a revolution and overthrow the Assad regime that foments this kind of idiocy. But that would mean standing up and fighting, which we all know these people don't know how to do.

And here is the problem with that - when we support the overthrow and cessation of the dictatorships, something worse seems to grow. We need to keep our political hands out of other peoples pots. Iraq and Hussein was a fine example, he kept those people in line and we didn't hear crap from anyone over there. Same with Qaddafi....but when we support the people that want a change of command, then we are also agreeing that we have 50 years of support before, what we hope, the change of thought processes become the norm in those areas.

Sadly, I don't think it will become the norm - and we have only opened the door to paying off people that want nothing more than to kill us.

[island14]

If extremists weren't hiding among the refugees, I would welcome the opportunity to make new friends and learn new culture.

http://freeshopmanual.com/uploads/photos/Amish-Terrorist.jpg

[Rob]

If extremists weren't hiding among the refugees, I would welcome the opportunity to make new friends and learn new culture.

:iagree: maybe have some new restaurants that aren't just Mexican

[6spdC6]

And here is the problem with that - when we support the overthrow and cessation of the dictatorships, something worse seems to grow. We need to keep our political hands out of other peoples pots. Iraq and Hussein was a fine example, he kept those people in line and we didn't hear crap from anyone over there. Same with Qaddafi....but when we support the people that want a change of command, then we are also agreeing that we have 50 years of support before, what we hope, the change of thought processes become the norm in those areas.

Sadly, I don't think it will become the norm - and we have]only opened the door to paying off people that want nothing more than to kill us




In that case we should kill them before they kill us. I tend to go along with Mr Vetts solution to the muzzie problem.

To win or in most cases even survive you got to do what they do!


Its what they do, its what they understand you got to play the game with the rules they use not our own goodie two shoes approach that is not working..

[Cybercowboy]

Like Reagan said to his new campaign manager in 1979, when asked what his official position on the Cold War was going to be. Reagan said "We win, they lose. What do you think of that?" That was actually an unheard of response back then, the mainstream left/right response was various modes of coexistence and containment with the Soviets.

[Iron Chef]

If extremists weren't hiding among the refugees, I would welcome the opportunity to make new friends and learn new culture.

Exactly :seasix:

And here is the problem with that - when we support the overthrow and cessation of the dictatorships, something worse seems to grow. We need to keep our political hands out of other peoples pots. Iraq and Hussein was a fine example, he kept those people in line and we didn't hear crap from anyone over there. Same with Qaddafi....but when we support the people that want a change of command, then we are also agreeing that we have 50 years of support before, what we hope, the change of thought processes become the norm in those areas.

I see your point. It's the devil you know vs. the devil you don't. But I'm betting that there are around 60 million people that wish an attempt had been made on the Nazi regime before WW2.

[Cybercowboy]

The fact that Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Turkey, Jordan, and the other "peaceful" Gulf states won't take them speaks volumes.

[Iron Chef]

The fact that Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Turkey, Jordan, and the other "peaceful" Gulf states won't take them speaks volumes.

The moderate Arab countries consider the Syrians and the Palestinians as basically the scum of the Arab world. With good reason.

[mrvette]

Too late!




My Mom lives in a nice neighborhood that, in combination with a few other nearby neighborhoods and a golf course, are becoming like Fort Apache, the Bronx....surrounded by up and coming "diverse" (read: ghetto] neighborhoods. There are at least 2 mosques within a 2 mile radius of her subdivision. As if this was not enough, our Uncle Sam has insisted on putting up "affordable housing" (read: Section 8 crime zone apartments), also within a 2 mile radius of her subdivision. The subdivisions got together and lobbied their Congress critters, but to no avail. I'm quite sure Uncle Hobama took delight in bringing more of his voters to very close proximity with those neighborhoods. And there was nothing our Congress critters could do about it. This will be the way our new Syrian neighbors will be distributed. We won't get to consent to where they are placed, but you can be sure we will be taxed to place them, house them, feed them, etc. Maybe we will catch a break, though, and Saudi Arabia will build their mosques for them, instead of putting that on the US taxpayers' tab, too.

Bill, THAT is pretty much exactly what happened to my folks in the early 60's yet, before all the Kennedy crap was shoved through conngress by LBJ.....spent some 25 years 'under siege' subject to constant break-ins and so forth, but the 8's knew if I was around, I carried, so they never showed.....tad rough on a 86 y/o mother facing a final break in, while standing in the back hallway.....:issues::issues::issues:

[mrvette]

Exactly :seasix:



I see your point. It's the devil you know vs. the devil you don't. But I'm betting that there are around 60 million people that wish an attempt had been made on the Nazi regime before WW2.

Yes, BUT, if hitler didn't kill them, the commies would have...just a different direction of the army marching, same thing.....

lenin/stalin killed FAR more than hitler ever managed.....cripe, the only ones to out do them was mao.......

but looking at population growth and stats over time going back some 1500 year or so.......neither one of them did more killing than islam....not even close....gotta go by percentages now.....

:issues:

[mrvette]

So....a prison camp?

A HUGE one in Colorado, with NO HEAT!!!!!!!:seasix:

[mrvette]

If extremists weren't hiding among the refugees, I would welcome the opportunity to make new friends and learn new culture.

WHY?? WTF does some ignorant sandland dweller have to offer in a tech society?? except attacking/regression??? gotta be kidding me, .....Drew, that is just flat out ignorant.....

:issues::issues::sadangel:

[erickpl]

What if we built a huge city in the middle of nowhere and let them all settle there. Restrict travel into and out of the area until they all assimilate to this nations standards.

Damascus is already there.

[mrvette]

The moderate Arab countries consider the Syrians and the Palestinians as basically the scum of the Arab world. With good reason.

UMMMM, scum of the scum.......never thought of it THAT way, maybe a good point......:issues:

[Rob]

Obama calls for a conference call this evening with all the US Governors. From the sound of things, he is not happy that a majority of them are stepping up and not accepting this government handout...

[Burro (He/Haw)]

https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/12246800_10208035209338321_973664417641293343_n.jpg?oh=bec2fdfe7db806ea69c92df8ec3ad22e&oe=56F5BF1B

And what about situations like this one? (http://www.wsj.com/articles/image-of-syrian-boy-washed-up-on-beach-hits-hard-1441282847)

[lspencer534]

Obama calls for a conference call this evening with all the US Governors. From the sound of things, he is not happy that a majority of them are stepping up and not accepting this government handout...

Good luck on getting the Governors to change their mind.

[Rob]

https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/12246800_10208035209338321_973664417641293343_n.jpg?oh=bec2fdfe7db806ea69c92df8ec3ad22e&oe=56F5BF1B

And what about situations like this one? (http://www.wsj.com/articles/image-of-syrian-boy-washed-up-on-beach-hits-hard-1441282847)

I am guessing it is a sad story, and I feel terrible seeing how children are caught up in all of this crap. However, all I see is this

To Read the Full Story, Subscribe or Sign In

[Blademaker]

Good luck on getting the Governors to change their mind.

That's OK.......the federal government will handle that.......


No, State Governors Can't Refuse To Accept Syrian Refugees | ThinkProgress (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/11/16/3722628/no-state-governors-cant-refuse-to-accept-syrian-refugees/)

You guys may want to read this....

[Rob]

That's OK.......the federal government will handle that.......


No, State Governors Can't Refuse To Accept Syrian Refugees | ThinkProgress (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/11/16/3722628/no-state-governors-cant-refuse-to-accept-syrian-refugees/)

You guys may want to read this....

And this is how they should respond.

To be clear, states still retain the power to deny their own resources to the federal government, so they could potentially make settlement of refugees more difficult than it would be if the states cooperated. Nevertheless, an act of Congress — the Refugee Act of 1980 — has given Obama broad discretion to allow refugees to be admitted into the United States. The states of Texas, Louisiana and others must yield to that act.

[Rob]

It's a heartbreaking story. I know you'll feel it so be prepared.


Family of Syrian boy washed up on beach were trying to reach Canada | World news | The Guardian (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/03/refugee-crisis-syrian-boy-washed-up-on-beach-turkey-trying-to-reach-canada)

:sadangel:

[Fasglas]

https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/12246800_10208035209338321_973664417641293343_n.jpg?oh=bec2fdfe7db806ea69c92df8ec3ad22e&oe=56F5BF1B

And what about situations like this one? (http://www.wsj.com/articles/image-of-syrian-boy-washed-up-on-beach-hits-hard-1441282847)

From the beginning, I suspected the details/photo were manipulated to produce a desired effect. Apparently, I was correct.

The 5 Awkward Questions They Won't Answer About The Drowned Boy, Syria And Our ?Moral Duty' (http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/09/08/the-5-awkward-questions-they-wont-answer-about-the-drowned-boy-syria-and-our-moral-duty/)

[VITE1]

https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/12246800_10208035209338321_973664417641293343_n.jpg?oh=bec2fdfe7db806ea69c92df8ec3ad22e&oe=56F5BF1B

And what about situations like this one? (http://www.wsj.com/articles/image-of-syrian-boy-washed-up-on-beach-hits-hard-1441282847)

And what about the 100,000,000 Indians killed over the centuries by Islam?

They estimated 50 million sold and still being sold into slavery by muslims?

Or the 10,000s of your African girls being kidnapped and made to be wife's to muskims?

Or the kurdish and others turned into sex slave and raped to death by muslims?

That kid is dead due to 1400 years of evil in the form of Islam.

[Burro (He/Haw)]

And what about the 100,000,000 Indians killed over the centuries by Islam?

They estimated 50 million sold and still being sold into slavery by muslims?

Or the 10,000s of your African girls being kidnapped and made to be wife's to muskims?

Or the kurdish and others turned into sex slave and raped to death by muslims?

What about them?

[mrvette]

What about them?

Eliminate islam, easy do, done in 6 weeks or less without nuclear explosions.....

guaranFREEKING TEED!!!!!


:seasix:

[Burro (He/Haw)]

Eliminate islam, easy do, done in 6 weeks or less without nuclear explosions.....

guaranFREEKING TEED!!!!!


:seasix:

No way Gene. I know better than to engage you, you know more than I do on most any topic especially on political stuff. NFW I'm gonna bring it OUT on you!

[Craig]

As I understand it, the governors' publicly opposing this thing is pointless grandstanding, it's unproductive nonsense; which maybe is the appropriate response to this pointless, grandstanding President.

I'm not all that opposed to taking in some of these refugees, especially since Obama's foreign policy (facilitated by Billary Clinton) helped destroy their country. The difference in this case is that, in the past they spent their vetting period in camps on their side of the ocean; his plan appears to be to bring them here, then vet them. If that is not his plan, then maybe he should tell us that, rather than deride our opposition with smug disdain. I don't know if he has that in him (I doubt it), but it seems reasonable.

[island14]

Just my 2 centavo's

If Obama still wants to bring them in against most all States and the peoples wishes... and try to sell us on it being safe.

Then shouldn't he personally be held responsible, and also be charged as an accessory to homicide, or manslaughter if and when it happens for knowingly putting American lives at risk? :island14:


Hey... He is the one that wants to Co-Sign for this..



Like said here before, none of the other middle east countries want them, the reasons are obvious why not. :yesnod:

[VITE1]

What about them?

They are all DEAD due to the Cult Of Islam. Islam is the root cause problem and until we address and fix the evil within Islam we will have more of the items I've listed.

[69camfrk]

No way Gene. I know better than to engage you, you know more than I do on most any topic especially on political stuff. NFW I'm gonna bring it OUT on you!

He wants to shut their power off. He's actually right. Essentially the same would happen here if the lights went out. Mr.Vette, correct me if I'm wrong...:cert:

[island14]

He wants to shut their power off. He's actually right. Essentially the same would happen here if the lights went out. Mr.Vette, correct me if I'm wrong...:cert:

Things might be different in the desert, but our power was out for over three months here... and we just learned to live without it..

[69camfrk]

Things might be different in the desert, but our power was out for over three months here... and we just learned to live without it..

But you guys are resourceful and have a reasonable food supply and drinking water. Rag heads would be screwed, and eating each other in 3 days.:hurray:

[VITE1]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v517/VITE1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-11/FB_IMG_1447955518605_zpsymt3h8ak.jpg

[69camfrk]

Vite, I would make a long comment, but I assure you we are already thinking alike. That sorry, smug, mofo..........