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NEED-A-VETTE
07-07-2015, 1:06am
Bill Cosby Admits to Giving Quaaludes to Woman, Seeking the Drug for Others, Court Documents Say

Embattled TV superstar Bill Cosby admitted to giving a woman Quaaludes and said that he obtained the drugs with the idea that he would give them to women he wanted to have sex with, according to court filings released Monday.

In the 2005 filing, part of a civil case, Cosby, who has been accused of sexual misconduct by dozens of women, said that he obtained seven prescriptions for the drugs and answered "yes" when asked if he got them with the intent on giving them to women with whom he wanted to have sex.

The documents cite a deposition that Cosby gave in the case on Sept. 27 and 28, 2005 and quotes from it.

In the filings, which the Associated Press pushed to release, Cosby admits to giving the drug to one woman who he met in Las Vegas. It was not clear when the alleged meeting took place and the woman is not the same person who filed the suit.

"She meets me back stage," he allegedly said. "I give her Quaaludes. We then have sex."

According to the filing, Cosby's lawyer, Patrick O'Connor, said the "Cosby Show" star got the drugs in the '70s and suggested that he may have kept them for decades after that.

O'Connor would not allow Cosby to say whether he gave the drug to "other people."

The sexual abuse lawsuit was settled in 2006 for undisclosed terms, according to the AP.

Cosby has never been charged with a crime in connection to the accusations of drugging and sexual assault and his lawyers have denied the allegations.

"The only reason Mr. Cosby settled was because it would have been embarrassing in those days to put all those women on the stand and his family had no clue," the Cosby camp said in a statement to ABC News. "That would have been very hurtful."

Lawyer Gloria Allred, who represents several of the women who have accused Cosby, applauded the release.

"This admission is one that Mr. Cosby has attempted to hide from the public for many years and we are very gratified that it is now being made public," she said in a statement.

Bill Cosby Admits to Giving Quaaludes to Woman, Seeking the Drug for Others, Court Documents Say - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/US/bill-cosby-admits-giving-quaaludes-woman-seeking-drug/story?id=32261612)


Bill Cosby said in 2005 that he got sedative to give women for sex

Cosby admitted under oath that he got a sort of sedative for the purpose of giving the drug to young women with whom he wanted to have sex, newly released documents show.

The documents date back to 2005, and they stem from a lawsuit filed by one of the many women who have publicly accused the comedian of sexual assault. The records were made public Monday after The Associated Press went to court to compel their release.

According to the documents, Cosby was asked by attorney Dolores Troiani: "When you got the quaaludes, was it in your mind that you were going to use these quaaludes for young women that you wanted to have sex with?"

Cosby answered yes.

attorney then asked: "Did you ever give any of those young women the quaaludes without their knowledge?" At that point, Cosby's lawyer objected, stopping his client from answering.

Cosby then clarified an earlier remark saying that he had misunderstood.

He'd said he gave quaaludes to other people, and he later said: "I misunderstood. Woman ... not women."

The documents include Cosby's recollection of an incident in Las Vegas in the 1970s.

"She meets me backstage. I give her quaaludes. We then have sex," he said.

While the woman's name was redacted, the details of the encounter closely mirror those provided by one of Cosby's accusers, Therese Serignese.

An attorney who represents three Cosby accusers, including Serignese, told "CNN Tonight" that "it appears" Cosby was talking about Serignese, although Joseph Cammarata stopped short of saying for sure.

Previously, Serignese had told ABC's "20/20" that she was a 19-year-old model visiting Las Vegas when Cosby handed her pills in a private dressing room after a performance.

"Take these," Cosby told her, according to Serignese.

After consuming the pills, she remembered "feeling drugged, and I was kind of leaning forward, and he was behind me having sex with me. And I -- I remember it because it was not good."

Serignese did not make public accusations in the immediate aftermath of the 1976 incident. She explained her decision in a November 2014 article she wrote in the New York Daily News.

"Cosby was everywhere. Everyone thought he was a great family man. I knew he wasn't. I just couldn't prove it with anything but my word. There was no video camera or DNA evidence. No one else had accused him publicly yet," Serignese wrote.

She added: "He didn't drink or take the pills. They could test him, and he'd be clean."

Cosby, 77, has never been criminally charged and has vehemently denied wrongdoing. Efforts to contact his attorney for comment on the latest allegations were unsuccessful Monday.

Cosby had fought the release of the documents, arguing it would violate his and others' privacy and be a source of embarrassment.

More than 25 women have alleged that Cosby assaulted them over the past 40 years. Most of the allegations have passed statutes of limitations, preventing criminal legal action.

"I am so overwhelmed that this has come out at long last. At last we are being validated, and there is vindication," Victoria Valentino told CNN's "Erin Burnett OutFront" soon after news of the documents broke.

She claims that Cosby raped her.

"This has opened the door for all of us to speak out against rape culture in our society. Just because someone is famous and wealthy and powerful does not mean he gets away with it. He doesn't get to drug and rape women. And we don't have to live with the shame and the blame," Valentino said. "Silence is a rapist's greatest weapon."

Bill Cosby in 2005 oath: Got sedative to give women - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/06/us/bill-cosby-allegations-sedative/)

Kerrmudgeon
07-07-2015, 1:19am
:smash:......guilty as charged. :yesnod:


hi Sandy, still hot and dry on the coast? :(

joecaver
07-07-2015, 4:19am
:smash:......guilty as charged. :yesnod:
:(

he has not been charged. I'm not saying he didn't do it, he may have but he has not been charged with any crimes (yet).

wwomanC6
07-07-2015, 5:13am
he has not been charged. I'm not saying he didn't do it, he may have but he has not been charged with any crimes (yet).

Really?! He may have! He admitted under oath he did. Needs to be charged as a serial rapist!!!


:ironchef::ironchef::ironchef:

LATB
07-07-2015, 6:50am
Mr Cosby's problem is his stance on the black community. His outspoken approach paints him as not "down with the struggle". So he's getting the Clarance Thomas treatment.

VatorMan
07-07-2015, 7:54am
{Trump} I'll bet Cosby has some Mexican in him{Trump}

SnikPlosskin
07-07-2015, 9:00am
What's interesting to me is the sole admission involves the woman voluntarily taking the pills. Lot's more to this story, me thinks.

Iron Chef
07-07-2015, 9:02am
Have you SEEN Cosby? Who wouldn't need to be drugged.

DukeAllen
07-07-2015, 9:11am
{Trump} I'll bet Cosby has some Mexican in him{Trump}

No but I bet some Mexicans had some Cosby in them :lol:

island14
07-07-2015, 9:17am
What's interesting to me is the sole admission involves the woman voluntarily taking the pills. Lot's more to this story, me thinks.

I have no clue what happened in the above story when she willingly took Ludes, (AKA Panty droppers) but I do remember that in the late 1970's and early 80's asking a girl in a bar if she wanted some Ludes was just a nice way of asking if she wanted to get laid.. :yesnod:

I remember one time a girl asked me if I had any Ludes..

Told her no I don't... but I will buy your drinks tonight if you still wanna.. :lol:

island14
07-07-2015, 9:18am
No but I bet some Mexicans had some Cosby in them :lol:


It sounds like quite a few girls had some Cosby in them.. :leaving:

ApexOversteer
07-07-2015, 12:31pm
Really?! He may have! He admitted under oath he did. Needs to be charged as a serial rapist!!!


:ironchef::ironchef::ironchef:

It's too late. That is why these women are suing for defamation.

Kerrmudgeon
07-07-2015, 12:38pm
Have you SEEN Cosby? Who wouldn't need to be drugged.

Buckets of money tend to cloud the eyes in those situations, Groucho Marx comes to mind.....:yesnod:

Fastguy
07-07-2015, 12:41pm
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Mike Mercury
07-07-2015, 12:49pm
Have you SEEN Cosby? Who wouldn't need to be drugged.

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Jeff '79
07-07-2015, 12:50pm
Throughout history, women have used their "guile", to get ahead in life.
Poor Bill, to have to go through all of this BS.

C5SilverBullet
07-07-2015, 12:55pm
Throughout history, women have used their "guile", to get ahead in life.
Poor Bill, to have to go through all of this BS.

:skep:

Jeff '79
07-07-2015, 12:59pm
:skep:

What?

They have brains and feet.
It's not his fault that they chose not to use them.
Now, all of a sudden, years later???
C'mon!

Mike Mercury
07-07-2015, 1:37pm
If they take them voluntarily, this isn't a story. I hate the news.

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C5SilverBullet
07-07-2015, 2:30pm
What?

They have brains and feet.
It's not his fault that they chose not to use them.
Now, all of a sudden, years later???
C'mon!

I didn't understand what you were saying.

Jeff '79
07-07-2015, 2:36pm
I didn't understand what you were saying.

:cert:

I was waiting for someone to come back and say, "what if it was one of your daughters"?
Well..... If I didn't instill the proper values in her while growing up, it's on me, but I feel that I did the best that I could, so shame on her for even being in that situation.

C5SilverBullet
07-07-2015, 2:43pm
:cert:

I was waiting for someone to come back and say, "what if it was one of your daughters"?
Well..... If I didn't instill the proper values in her while growing up, it's on me, but I feel that I did the best that I could, so shame on her for even being in that situation.

I agree that it isn't his fault if they willingly took them. If he puts them in their drink, his fault. If he hands them to the women, they take them, their fault.

C5SilverBullet
07-07-2015, 2:44pm
I've had people hand me pills and say, "Here try these." Uh, you're f'king crazy.

boracayjohnny
07-07-2015, 3:04pm
If they take them voluntarily, this isn't a story. I hate the news.

Oh come on, Dave. What's wrong with the MSM and their news?

The news has to make money. To make money they need to sell ads. To sell ads they need viewers. To have viewers they need to create a controversy. Rinse, repeat...

*For Lars, so what if a person gets caught up in a smear campaign during the effort to make money. :shrug:

MrPeabody
07-07-2015, 3:17pm
I've had people hand me pills and say, "Here try these." Uh, you're f'king crazy.

Some of the best rock concerts I saw started that way.:yesnod::leaving:

Jeff '79
07-07-2015, 3:18pm
Some of the best rock concerts I saw started that way.:yesnod::leaving:

:yesnod: Deep Purple in the Ivine Ampitheater comes to mind. :D

island14
07-07-2015, 4:04pm
Some of the best rock concerts I saw started that way.:yesnod::leaving:

Gee thanks... that little thing couldn't mess me up much... its so small.

Just what is this micro dot anyways..? :island14:

:lol:

Kerrmudgeon
07-07-2015, 4:33pm
Yup some of them have waited 15+ years for their chance at the wheel of fortune. :yesnod:
I can see all sides here. If he's guilty...string him up. But if these women would have jumped a famous man given the chance with goals in mind, like $$$ or pregnancy, screw 'em.....er.....too late. :hide:

If budding startlets/groupies had screwed Elvis or James Dean?.....they'd be writing books about it now. Cha-ching! $$$

It's up to the courts to overlook popular opinion and get to the facts OF EACH CASE. :thumbs:

American Made
07-07-2015, 6:56pm
Yup some of them have waited 15+ years for their chance at the wheel of fortune. :yesnod:
I can see all sides here. If he's guilty...string him up. But if these women would have jumped a famous man given the chance with goals in mind, like $$$ or pregnancy, screw 'em.....er.....too late. :hide:

If budding startlets/groupies had screwed Elvis or James Dean?.....they'd be writing books about it now. Cha-ching! $$$

It's up to the courts to overlook popular opinion and get to the facts OF EACH CASE. :thumbs:

:lol: Elvis and James Dean should not be in the same comparison. let me be honest, I asked my mom how Dean was discovered and she flat out said he did the bisexual producer/casting mob sexual things. :sadangel: Really bugs me and I don't want to believe it. Elvis was a true lover of women. My mom dated him. :yesnod: Edit: Oh!! Cosby was just a dude overwhelmed by white p***y and in the 60's and 70's qualudes were a part of the process. He's a douche but like so many others that did the same. Humanity has always been ill.

boracayjohnny
07-08-2015, 8:18am
:lol: Elvis and James Dean should not be in the same comparison. let me be honest, I asked my mom how Dean was discovered and she flat out said he did the bisexual producer/casting mob sexual things. :sadangel: Really bugs me and I don't want to believe it. Elvis was a true lover of women. My mom dated him. :yesnod: Edit: Oh!! Cosby was just a dude overwhelmed by white p***y and in the 60's and 70's qualudes were a part of the process. He's a douche but like so many others that did the same. Humanity has always been ill.

It's crazy the things people will do to be an actor.

Cosby, meh, I'm not surprised since I'm sure there are many more crazy things folks have done and are currently doing.

LATB
07-08-2015, 8:48am
If he hands them to the women, they take them, their fault.

Someone hands me Rorer 714's...I'm putting them in my pocket. :D

Cybercowboy
07-08-2015, 11:59am
First, I'm not going to defend Cosby. Couldn't care less about him.

Thing is, back in the 70's quaaludes were extremely common. How many parties was I at where people were handing out stuff like that? And if you gave some to a girl and later she had sex with you, well, bonus. Now if you are giving a very young/inexperienced woman drugs like that and then take advantage of them, not good. But if you offered some chick something you had, and later things worked out between you, it was just - well - nothing.

Lots of people would just take whatever someone handed them without really even knowing what it was. It was...different back then.

How many kids today go to a rave or a party and offer chicks some of the incredibly potent marijuana that's legally available in CO and WA? Or ecstasy? If later that girl has sex, is it rape or something?

island14
07-08-2015, 1:21pm
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island14
07-08-2015, 1:23pm
First, I'm not going to defend Cosby. Couldn't care less about him.

Thing is, back in the 70's quaaludes were extremely common. How many parties was I at where people were handing out stuff like that? And if you gave some to a girl and later she had sex with you, well, bonus. Now if you are giving a very young/inexperienced woman drugs like that and then take advantage of them, not good. But if you offered some chick something you had, and later things worked out between you, it was just - well - nothing.

Lots of people would just take whatever someone handed them without really even knowing what it was. It was...different back then.

How many kids today go to a rave or a party and offer chicks some of the incredibly potent marijuana that's legally available in CO and WA? Or ecstasy? If later that girl has sex, is it rape or something?

Lots of people were doing them back in the day.. and if you were out in the bars at that time everyone knew what they were.. :yesnod:

They have a Facebook Fan page.. :lol:

https://www.facebook.com/QuaaludeLemmon714

Iron Chef
07-08-2015, 5:14pm
First, I'm not going to defend Cosby. Couldn't care less about him.

Agreed. This is a total non-issue for most people. For those who say that "It's all over for Cosby", they've lost their minds. The man is 77 years old and is worth in excess of $400 million. He's obviously not going to jail, and there's really no way any bad publicity will harm him at this point in his life or career, even if there is a shit-ton of it. In fact, I'd even bet that he'll lay low for awhile and then wind up making an appearance on some show and get an ovation. That's just how the public is.

Thing is, back in the 70's quaaludes were extremely common. How many parties was I at where people were handing out stuff like that? And if you gave some to a girl and later she had sex with you, well, bonus. Now if you are giving a very young/inexperienced woman drugs like that and then take advantage of them, not good. But if you offered some chick something you had, and later things worked out between you, it was just - well - nothing.

Lots of people would just take whatever someone handed them without really even knowing what it was. It was...different back then.

How many kids today go to a rave or a party and offer chicks some of the incredibly potent marijuana that's legally available in CO and WA? Or ecstasy? If later that girl has sex, is it rape or something?

This. :iagree:

Hell...I was in show business for almost a decade. I could have opened a pharmacy at my place. And no...I never gave anyone anything to get them to become more compliant. But there is a reason why the saying is "Sex, Drugs, Rock and Roll." The three pretty much went hand-in-hand, and when you're in the business as I was, it gets amplified exponentially. Drugs of all kinds were given out like candy and there was so much alcohol present you could fill a swimming pool.

Cybercowboy
07-08-2015, 5:37pm
This. :iagree:

It never even dawned on me to try to get a girl so wasted that we could have sex. It was pretty much the opposite actually. Back when I was dating my wife, she came up to where I was going to college and it was a big party night. All the various frats and clubs were having "teas" so you could just go from annex to annex and sample their wares.

Was early, about 6 PM on a Saturday night, and we hit the first one (Campus Club) we stopped at, I kinda lost sight of her for about 10 minutes while I was talking to a few people. Apparently they had a "special tea" for the girls, and they gave her one of them. Or two. Who knows? By the time I saw her she was wiped out. I tasted a bit of it. Jeezus, it was pretty much flavored Everclear.

She started stumbling and was obviously hammered. We went to the next place, a house I knew, and I dropped her off with a girl I knew. Then my roommate and I went back to Campus Club and "had a word" with them. I'm not sure they had spiked that tea with something other than alcohol, but whatever it was, it was totally uncool. A few other girls were in the same boat as my wife, and there were plenty of guys who were just flat pissed off that they would even think about doing something like this. It was the first and only time I've ever seen anything like that happen.

After making sure they got rid of that batch, we walked back and my wife had a) thrown up b) was pretty much done for the evening. I kept an eye on her while she sat on the front porch (in case the dry heaves became less dry) and knew she was OK when later one guy came up to her and started hitting on her, and she just looked up, put her cigarette to her lips, and then silently flipped him off with both hands before going back to the "I'm going to throw up again" pose she had been in. I'm still pissed about this 30 years later actually.

Iron Chef
07-08-2015, 7:32pm
It never even dawned on me to try to get a girl so wasted that we could have sex. It was pretty much the opposite actually. Back when I was dating my wife, she came up to where I was going to college and it was a big party night. All the various frats and clubs were having "teas" so you could just go from annex to annex and sample their wares.

Our radio station in L.A. had a softball team that played celebs all the time for charity. We played the Happy Days cast and crew at Dodger Stadium. One time we played a team made up of celebs raising money for ALANON (Alcoholics Anonymous) on a Friday night. There were a lot of Scientology goofballs on the team too. After the game, there was a party at the home of Chick Corea in Hancock Park. I wound up hanging with Elvis' old g/f Linda Thompson most of that weekend (and that's all I'll say). There was so much...ehhhh..."contraband" there that I woke up Sunday morning on the lawn. That was my cue that it was time to go home.

Good times. :rofl:

island14
07-08-2015, 7:47pm
Our radio station in L.A. had a softball team that played celebs all the time for charity. We played the Happy Days cast and crew at Dodger Stadium. One time we played a team made up of celebs raising money for ALANON (Alcoholics Anonymous) on a Friday night. There were a lot of Scientology goofballs on the team too. After the game, there was a party at the home of Chick Corea in Hancock Park. I wound up hanging with Elvis' old g/f Linda Thompson most of that weekend (and that's all I'll say). There was so much...ehhhh..."contraband" there that I woke up Sunday morning on the lawn. That was my cue that it was time to go home.

Good times. :rofl:

The Hangover.. Part 3 :lol:

Steve Austin
07-08-2015, 9:40pm
First, I'm not going to defend Cosby. Couldn't care less about him.

Thing is, back in the 70's quaaludes were extremely common. How many parties was I at where people were handing out stuff like that? And if you gave some to a girl and later she had sex with you, well, bonus. Now if you are giving a very young/inexperienced woman drugs like that and then take advantage of them, not good. But if you offered some chick something you had, and later things worked out between you, it was just - well - nothing.

Lots of people would just take whatever someone handed them without really even knowing what it was. It was...different back then.

How many kids today go to a rave or a party and offer chicks some of the incredibly potent marijuana that's legally available in CO and WA? Or ecstasy? If later that girl has sex, is it rape or something?


In the 70s a typical part in those days would include a bowl being passed around like a bowl of M&Ms. Only it would be a variety of pills and you could sample any you wanted. Not sure what I may have ingested.:willy: Not proud of that but not ashamed.

Cybercowboy
07-08-2015, 10:04pm
Good times. :rofl:

I remember things. Sometimes.

Wow, we did a lot of shit back then. :lol:

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07-09-2015, 10:44am
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69camfrk
07-09-2015, 12:43pm
I've had people hand me pills and say, "Here try these." Uh, you're f'king crazy.

Get with the program Mister. If pills weren't good for ya, the pharm companies wouldn't make sure the docs hand them out like Pez. Of course you might hit age 60 and one leg suddenly becomes shorter than the other, but the rash on your arm will be gone. Oh, and that last 20 years of your life that you can't remember is only considered a "moderate side effect", but if the condition worsens, let your physician know.:leaving:

Mirroredshades
07-09-2015, 12:51pm
If two or three or ten women say he raped them, then maybe Cosby is innocent.

But 25 have come forward. If you still believe he is innocent, you are an idiot.


:seasix:

RedLS1GTO
07-09-2015, 3:02pm
Previously, Serignese had told ABC's "20/20" that she was a 19-year-old model visiting Las Vegas when Cosby handed her pills in a private dressing room after a performance.

"Take these," Cosby told her, according to Serignese.

After consuming the pills, she remembered "feeling drugged,


Wait, wait, wait....

Someone handed you pills, you took them, and then you "felt drugged". Again, so there is no misunderstanding, you willingly took drugs... and then "felt drugged"?

Perhaps we should investigate this further to figure out what exactly happened.



I'm sorry, but that's just stupid.



**Note** My comment is in no way a defense of Mr. Cosby.

island14
07-09-2015, 4:09pm
Someone handed you pills, you took them, and then you "felt drugged". Again, so there is no misunderstanding, you willingly took drugs... and then "felt drugged"?

That's how I see this one, girls get drunk or take pills, wanna do it.. and the next day regret it happened. kinda like buyers remorse.. :island14:

Happens all the time..

Not sure about the other claims out there, and if he drugged someone without their knowledge that is rape plain and simple.. :yesnod:

He hasn't been charged with anything yet.. why?

All these years go by and just now they start bringing it up? this plus the fact that he is rich makes me suspicious..

I am NOT defending him, but its not my place to accuse him without any facts either.

Time will sort it out and we will hear more eventually I bet, as they are not going to let this just go away until it is settled.

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07-09-2015, 5:10pm
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07-09-2015, 5:15pm
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lspencer534
07-09-2015, 7:01pm
Back in those days we'd typically start the weekend with "Name That Drug". A bowl of various drugs was passed around, you took one, and later had to identify the drug. Was the object sex? Never. It might have been an occasional by-product, but sex was not the object. Getting wasted was.

BADRACR1
07-10-2015, 11:21pm
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