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I just returned from the grocery store, and it was packed with folks overreacting to our soon-to-be-here tropical storm. I overheard lots of people grousing over the fact that they were out of bottled water. WTF? No, WTF?
1st, even if the power goes out, water plants and sewer plants all have backup gas fired generators. Even during Ike, I never lost water or sewer.....not for a minute.
2nd, why does no one feel they can drink tap water? That's all I drink. To be fair, I have a faucet mount filter on my sink to eliminate the chlorine and whatever else a chunk of carbon might filter out, but I don't have any problem drinking from the hose, from the tap unfiltered, or even from the shower. People act like that's not a viable water source anymore. WTF?
If you are concerned you won't have water, just fill up the bathtub, or some pots. But no, instead, people are panicking trying to find bottled water.
Now, when I worry about losing power for a while, I worry about having enough ice and beer.
Or have a 3000 gal rain water tank out back. Gravity drain to the main house.
Burro (He/Haw)
06-15-2015, 5:39pm
Because the liberal media is trying to scare the ever-living-shit out of you. That way they can get their POTUS candidate elected under the 'Water for everyone' platform.
Duh.
Or have a 3000 gal rain water tank out back. Gravity drain to the main house.
I don't need that much storage, 'cause I can shower for free in the back yard every time there's a hurricane or tropical storm.
:bill_daniels:
wwomanC6
06-15-2015, 5:46pm
Ah, that explains why the grocery store was busy this evening. Everyone is stocking up. I normally go on Sat or Sun, but was under the weather this weekend.
Oh and I did get a 24 pack of bottled water. :leaving:
I guess the same as snowstorms, the bread, milk, and TP syndrome.
Stangkiller
06-15-2015, 5:53pm
I practically had to argue with the cashier at Walmart today, there was two pallets of water next to the register, and I didn't want any.
The flooding can contaminate the drinking water if it gets high enough....however at that point your sewer won't work either, so it's probably time to seek a hotel, or head for the ranch.
We keep 100 bottles or more on hand each storm season. It's wise to be prepared here on the coast.
People, in general, are idiots. Tap water in most areas is fine.
Aerovette
06-15-2015, 7:39pm
I have rations to last until the news is over tonight.
I have no idea where my flashlight is.
I have a couple candles, but hell if I know where a lighter is.
...but I do know that if the internet goes out I'll be one pissed mofo. :D
Stangkiller
06-15-2015, 7:40pm
I have rations to last until the news is over tonight.
I have no idea where my flashlight is.
I have a couple candles, but hell if I know where a lighter is.
...but I do know that if the internet goes out I'll be one pissed mofo. :D
You don't need any of that...just an arsenal bigger than your neighbors. :leaving:
Aerovette
06-15-2015, 7:47pm
I have a funny Ike story.
We were new to this house and I figured I'd do due diligence and I cut plywood to fit all the windows. I spent a day putting it up and helping neighbors do the same. We hunkered down in the bedroom and watched TV while the storm blew around. At one point late at night I went to the front window and peeked through the blinds and told my wife that it looks like the street lights went out and all our neighbors across the street must have lost power. It was pitch black.
Yeah, I was that stupid. I was looking at the freakin' PLYWOOD !! :lol:
Kerrmudgeon
06-15-2015, 7:47pm
I just don't like the taste of city water, so I either bring in drinking water from a well at the lake or buy it when it's on sale and stock up. Last time it was 1.99$ for 24 half litres. cheap.:seasix:
If you've ever been to a sewage treatment plant and see the stuff that goes in like used condoms and tampax......:ack:
And then there's the powdered aluminum they add to coagulate all that shit, which leaves measurable trace in the water......go ahead...drink it! :puke:
People, in general, are idiots. Tap water in most areas is fine.
Wait 'till you move to Florida. :Jeff '79:
MrPeabody
06-15-2015, 8:04pm
I drink filtered tap water from my refrigerator door. I did a blind taste test and couldn't tell it from various brands of bottled water. And it works when the power is out.
Not having ice for my Jim Beam would be a whole other level of problem.
markids77
06-15-2015, 8:09pm
Wait 'till you move to Florida. :Jeff '79:
Do you have the sulfur tainted well water like in Northeastern Florida? Stinks like egg farts and tastes like bad p*ssy? Takes a long time to get used to drinking that.
Do you have the sulfur tainted well water like in Northeastern Florida? Stinks like egg farts and tastes like bad p*ssy? Takes a long time to get used to drinking that.
Yep. Most of Florida (maybe all) uses well water. Up north they have reservoir water, that's much better.
We do use filtered refrigerator water for coffee. :seasix:
markids77
06-15-2015, 8:14pm
BTW, my water comes from a deep well. No power, no agua. We keep 100 gallons in jugs for emergencies. If a big storm hits coastal Georgia we could be without power for an extended time. A 17 foot storm surge would make my house beachfront property.
BTW, my water comes from a deep well. No power, no agua. We keep 100 gallons in jugs for emergencies. If a big storm hits coastal Georgia we could be without power for an extended time. A 17 foot storm surge would make my house beachfront property.
17 foot surge in our bay...and my house is under water. Heck, my roof is under water :Jeff '79:
I just don't like the taste of city water, so I either bring in drinking water from a well at the lake or buy it when it's on sale and stock up. Last time it was 1.99$ for 24 half litres. cheap.:seasix:
If you've ever been to a sewage treatment plant and see the stuff that goes in like used condoms and tampax......:ack:
And then there's the powdered aluminum they add to coagulate all that shit, which leaves measurable trace in the water......go ahead...drink it! :puke:
Wastewater is treated and released into bayous and streams. Drinking water is sourced from either well water, or surface water, like lakes, that aren't fed by wastewater streams. Sure, that treated wastewater gets around sooner or later, but when you buy drinking water, all you are buying in most cases, is city water that's been run through another filter by the bottling company. Enjoy!
Wastewater is treated and released into bayous and streams. Drinking water is sourced from either well water, or surface water, like lakes, that aren't fed by wastewater streams. Sure, that treated wastewater gets around sooner or later, but when you buy drinking water, all you are buying in most cases, is city water that's been run through another filter by the bottling company. Enjoy!
This is not entirely correct. And it differs for each area/state/city/county/region.
Grey Ghost
06-16-2015, 7:27am
180 ft. well here. I'm good, unless the power goes out. I've had the water tested a few times just to make sure it's good.
Bottled water - I read the label to find the source. I only buy spring water. There is a brand that I can only find in the Smoky Mtns. that beats EVERY other water I've tried. Inc., Fiji and other high dollar stuff. I always bring home several cases of it.
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GRN ENVY
06-16-2015, 11:29am
Do you have the sulfur tainted well water like in Northeastern Florida? Stinks like egg farts and tastes like bad p*ssy? Takes a long time to get used to drinking that.
Yep. Most of Florida (maybe all) uses well water. Up north they have reservoir water, that's much better.
We do use filtered refrigerator water for coffee. :seasix:
Yep, I have well. And well, it's decent at best. I have a water filtration, softner and a second filter on my tap water. Still can hardly drink it. Costco is my friend for their 48 pack of water at $4
NeedSpeed
06-16-2015, 11:40am
The EPA regulates tap water.
The FDA regulates bottled water.
Let that sink in for a moment.
I just returned from the grocery store, and it was packed with folks overreacting to our soon-to-be-here tropical storm. I overheard lots of people grousing over the fact that they were out of bottled water. WTF? No, WTF?
1st, even if the power goes out, water plants and sewer plants all have backup gas fired generators. Even during Ike, I never lost water or sewer.....not for a minute.
2nd, why does no one feel they can drink tap water? That's all I drink. To be fair, I have a faucet mount filter on my sink to eliminate the chlorine and whatever else a chunk of carbon might filter out, but I don't have any problem drinking from the hose, from the tap unfiltered, or even from the shower. People act like that's not a viable water source anymore. WTF?
If you are concerned you won't have water, just fill up the bathtub, or some pots. But no, instead, people are panicking trying to find bottled water.
Now, when I worry about losing power for a while, I worry about having enough ice and beer.
That's what the gov. what's you to think, it's called control of the masses do as we say..
C5SilverBullet
06-16-2015, 1:14pm
My son's dentist told us to not give him much bottled water, because it lacks minerals that you need for strong teeth.
My son's dentist told us to not give him much bottled water, because it lacks minerals that you need for strong teeth.
and I heard a report that they now realize that most municipalities over the last 30-40 years have been putting too much fluoride, etc. into the water. :island14:
one day coffee is good for you...next day it's a killer :willy:
btw- doesn't the dentist give fluoride treatments??
C5SilverBullet
06-16-2015, 1:30pm
and I heard a report that they now realize that most municipalities over the last 30-40 years have been putting too much fluoride, etc. into the water. :island14:
one day coffee is good for you...next day it's a killer :willy:
btw- doesn't the dentist give fluoride treatments??
He said they're seeing a lot more kids coming in with bad teeth, and they blame bottled water.
and I heard a report that they now realize that most municipalities over the last 30-40 years have been putting too much fluoride, etc. into the water. :island14:
one day coffee is good for you...next day it's a killer :willy:
btw- doesn't the dentist give fluoride treatments??
Flouride is an industrial WASTE product. It's considered hazardous waste. So what do we do with it? Add it to drinking water. Somebody at a chemical company is a HELL of a salesman. He probably sells refrigerators to eskimos, too.
...Whitepower...
06-16-2015, 1:40pm
My LG fridge has a built in filtration system. We always have a case of water on hand that we keep in the secondary fridge in the garage but that's more for use to grab and throw in the car when we are on the move.
Mike Mercury
06-16-2015, 2:39pm
Because the liberal media is trying to scare the ever-living-shit out of you. That way they can get their POTUS candidate elected under the 'Water for everyone' platform.
Duh.
while there's a lot of truth there.... drinking municipal tap water is not always smart in some instances. If the problem is storm related, flooding; a lot of the flood water passes through the groundwater processing plant - unprocessed. Sewer and all the other crud comes into the plant and goes right back out... mainly untouched (by design).
This is not entirely correct. And it differs for each area/state/city/county/region.
Where in the country is the treated effluent put right back in the water body used to make drinking water?
Where in the country is the treated effluent put right back in the water body used to make drinking water?
It's not. At least here it's not.
Mike Mercury
06-17-2015, 10:19am
Where in the country is the treated effluent put right back in the water body used to make drinking water?
probably not detailed enough on my part. The excess run-off is still filter screened... to remove solids, but skids-by most the remaining treatment.
I worked water system telemetry for years, 0-20ma type stuff. If more water enters in a treatment plant - than it can treat; it gets "rushed through" and not fully treated.
Been there, seen it.
do you think they have holding tanks - to store the runoff that's overflowing the plants capacity?
probably not detailed enough on my part. The excess run-off is still filter screened... to remove solids, but skids-by most the remaining treatment.
I worked water system telemetry for years, 0-20ma type stuff. If more water enters in a treatment plant - than it can treat; it gets "rushed through" and not fully treated.
Been there, seen it.
do you think they have holding tanks - to store the runoff that's overflowing the plants capacity?
I get that, especially the part about what happens when it is a flood situation. My point was, there aren't any water systems that put the effluent back into the body of water they draw from for drinking water. Example: The City of Houston uses Lake Houston for their drinking water, and if necessary, they can draw down Lake Conroe, too. There aren't any municipalities that pump their effluent directly into either lake. That effluent gets pumped into other streams, that don't end up in the lakes. I realize that water gets around, and eventually what's pumped one place migrates somewhere else, but it isn't like the shit water goes into the same tank the water we want to drink goes.
Burro (He/Haw)
06-17-2015, 12:48pm
Desalination is the answer. Some genius needs to figure this out on a large scale and problem solved.
Desalination is the answer. Some genius needs to figure this out on a large scale and problem solved.
reverse osmosis is already a known technology. works great. worked on a system in Antarctica 20+ years ago, 11 gallons of sea water made 7 gallons of drinkable water, 4 gallons was waste. trick is getting a big enough plant built and powered (high pressure pumps) to supply a city's needs. we have a one house system, makes about 20 gal/hour to our day tank. it wasn't cheap. :faint: add several zeros for an industrial size plant. :beggar:
people have gotten used to cheap and unlimited water. the two of us use an average of 65 gallons a day on non-laundry days. takes about 90 gallons of raw water to make that 65 gallons.
charge more and use will go down.
ApexOversteer
06-17-2015, 1:39pm
People, in general, are idiots. Tap water in most areas is fine.
Yeah, after we got a few "boil-first" notices in the mailbox (3 in 6 months), not associated with any storms, we went to bottled water for drinking.
Yeah, after we got a few "boil-first" notices in the mailbox (3 in 6 months), not associated with any storms, we went to bottled water for drinking.
As I said "In General"
NYC and Long Island are perfect examples of my statement. Their water quality have been constantly rated as some of the best, and in many cases, better than bottled water.
I am wondering if in your area it's rotting/Leaking pipes. Now that been a big issue nation wide.
Sea Six
06-19-2015, 4:22pm
Let's Talk About Drinking Water
K.
I don't like to drink water except when I'm hot, and it tastes like a water hose smells when it comes out. If you can, I think you should always take the hose off and drink from the thing instead of through the hose but you can sometimes if your real thirsty like when youve been rideing a bike for a long time in the sun.
I like water and swimming in it. If I had a brother he would to. But for now its just me and swimming is Fun! I tryed to make a sub marine this one time and it would not go down even when me and two of my friends stood on it in the water. But it was cool.
My Dad said it was supposed to be sunk down in the water and I said it won't right now but maybe it will later on. but it didn't.
The End
I always thought that people that buy bottled water were nuts.
A few years ago went to a free outside concert on a hot July day and needed hydration. Bought a total of four bottles of pop from a machine at $1.75 each and 200 calories each.
I started buying bottle water by the case for $2.29 and carrying two bottles as I went to car show, etc . Keep a supply of water in the car during warm months. It also great to take a few bottles outside as I work around the yard and use as needed.
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