Can't we just agree...

[lspencer534]

First there were phonoautographs, graphophones, gramophones, and other non-electrical devices to play music from metal or was cylinders. In the 1920s electric amplifiers were used to generate sound from a groove in a thick disc. Those discs gave way to thin plastic discs and to thin plastic tape to record and generate sound. LPs, either 33 rpm or 78 rpm and then 45 rpm, and reel-to-reel recorders flourished and players.

Then came 8-track, followed quickly by cassettes, and then CDs. Now CD sales are dramatically waning in favor of digital files and iTunes. Some of us still have LPs and 45s, but they're simply worn out and only good for album art. We also haven't chunked our casettes and CDs, but we don't listen to them.

So far I've bought pretty much the same songs in 5 formats. Not cheap. Can't we just agree that today's format is where it stops? Music sounds as good as it can and is as compact as it can be. Even if not, who cares....

[Jeff '79]

It feels wonderful to be an inspiration to you Spence.
A man of your stature in the VB community..

I'm humbled... :shots:


btw.... It's free now so that's where it stops for me... :seasix:
You Tube is your friend

[DAB]

the point of new systems isn't to make your music sound better to you, it's to extract your money out of your wallet. :slap:

just like the point of hiring a new lawyer isn't to get back at the first lawyer your hired, it's to make the second one richer than the first.

sheesh...did you miss that class?

[MrPeabody]

I still have two under-dash 8Track players on a shelf in the garage, and a big box of tapes. If I ever own a 60s muscle car again, I'm going to install one in it.

[CertInsaneC5]

the point of new systems isn't to make your music sound better to you, it's to extract your money out of your wallet. :slap:

just like the point of hiring a new lawyer isn't to get back at the first lawyer your hired, it's to make the second one richer than the first.

sheesh...did you miss that class?

:iagree: Planned obsolescence or something like that. :shots:

[Jeff '79]

I still have two under-dash 8Track players on a shelf in the garage, and a big box of tapes. If I ever own a 60s muscle car again, I'm going to install one in it.

My friend has his old cassette/ turntable in his barn, He runs his I-pad through it, through a pair of 1980's Kenwood speakers and it sounds great.
I'm going to pillage my SIL's bedroom at her dad's house and grab her old stereo and do the same thing. She said I can have it. I already have massive Kenwood speakers from my old rack system, so I'm ready to fill up my barn with great sounding tunes this spring.
It looks something like this.
Vintage stereo sound using digital inputs. It really sound good. I like the vintage look of it too

http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af113/jeff79/VintageStereo_zps7e1c9820.jpg

Dial tuning too! I won't have to reset all of my favorites every time I cut the power.:seasix:

[lspencer534]

My friend has his old cassette/ turntable in his barn, He runs his I-pad through it, through a pair of 1980's Kenwood speakers and it sounds great.
I'm going to pillage my SIL's bedroom at her dad's hose and grab her old stereo and do the same thing. She said I can have it. I already have massive Kenwood speakers from my old rack system, so I'm ready to fill up my barn with great sounding tunes this spring.
It looks something like this.
Vintage stereo sound using digital inputs. It really sound good. I like the vintage look of it too

http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af113/jeff79/VintageStereo_zps7e1c9820.jpg

I have a pair of massive 30+ year-old Fisher speakers in my workshop, a turntable, and a cassette player. Even though it's in the workshop under less than ideal heat, cooling, and moisture standards, it puts out incredible sound.

[Jeff '79]

I have a pair of massive 30+ year-old Fisher speakers in my workshop, a turntable, and a cassette player. Even though it's in the workshop under less than ideal heat, cooling, and moisture standards, it puts out incredible sound.

:yesnod: I'm running my Kenwoods through a Sony boombox right now, but after hearing my friend's setup, I'm going older and will have all of the convenience of streaming music.
My Kenwoods have taken a beating over the years and still sound great.

[CertInsaneC5]

I have a set of old Marantz LS-88 speakers with the inscription engraved on the front name plate reading:

Okinawa Japan
82-83'
3rd Marine Division, FMF
KonFe B.J.
370823085

Had them for years. In fact. Listening to them now through a Bluetooth interface. They sound great. :cert:

[Jeff '79]

I have a set of old Marantz LS-88 speakers with the inscription engraved on the front name plate reading:

Okinawa Japan
82-83'
3rd Marine Division, FMF
KonFe B.J.
370823085

Had them for years. In fact. Listening to them now through a Bluetooth interface. They sound great. :cert:

:seasix: That's what I'm talking about.... :yesnod:

[CertInsaneC5]

:seasix: That's what I'm talking about.... :yesnod:

These suckers are heavy too. Huge magnets in them. I have pumped 500 watts through each of them before with no problem. Other than cracking a window or two, and well the cops showing up. :leaving:

[MrPeabody]

I still have and use regularly my 1971 Pioneer SX 9000 receiver. It used to be in the garage when I had the Corvette, but since selling it I don't spend much time out there, so I moved it to my den. I got rid of my ESS towers (they needed work) and downsized to some Bose 301s.

[CertInsaneC5]

I retired my Pioneer VSX-4700S receiver that I got in the early 90's to the garage. Hooked up to a couple of custom 48" tall towers that a buddy of mine made for me years ago.

I chit you not. The sound dial on this thing goes to 30. :rofl: It has never gone past 20 here. I Swear. :leaving:

[Kerrmudgeon]

I like to bring my old stuff up to the lake for get togethers and blast the neighbors! They love me. :rofl:

And no kids will break in to steal that ancient stuff when they look in the windows. Too old and heavy to run with. :polis:

[Jeff '79]

These suckers are heavy too. Huge magnets in them. I have pumped 500 watts through each of them before with no problem. Other than cracking a window or two, and well the cops showing up. :leaving:

They made quality stuff in the late '70's early '80's.
I've had parties where the amp blew before my speakers...
I think that my Kenwood rack system was the 1979-1980 model.
Eruption from VH at 10 couldn't take those speakers out.

[CertInsaneC5]

I like to bring my old stuff up to the lake for get togethers and blast the neighbors! They love me. :rofl:

And no kids will break in to steal that ancient stuff when they look in the windows. Too old and heavy to run with. :polis:

I hear you on that. I get my furniture dolly out to move both my speakers and the stereo cabinet when I need to clean behind them. :Jeff '79:

[Jeff '79]

I hear you on that. I get my furniture dolly out to move both my speakers and the stereo cabinet when I need to clean behind them. :Jeff '79:

:Jeff '79:

[Bill]

First there were phonoautographs, graphophones, gramophones, and other non-electrical devices to play music from metal or was cylinders. In the 1920s electric amplifiers were used to generate sound from a groove in a thick disc. Those discs gave way to thin plastic discs and to thin plastic tape to record and generate sound. LPs, either 33 rpm or 78 rpm and then 45 rpm, and reel-to-reel recorders flourished and players.

Then came 8-track, followed quickly by cassettes, and then CDs. Now CD sales are dramatically waning in favor of digital files and iTunes. Some of us still have LPs and 45s, but they're simply worn out and only good for album art. We also haven't chunked our casettes and CDs, but we don't listen to them.

So far I've bought pretty much the same songs in 5 formats. Not cheap. Can't we just agree that today's format is where it stops? Music sounds as good as it can and is as compact as it can be. Even if not, who cares....

Speak for yourself. My '04 Vert has a cassette player in the dash, and it gets more use than the 12 disc changer in the trunk, although that gets used, too.

late 60's-late 80's classics, including copies of all of my albums? Yep....on cassette tape.

[Bill]

I have a pair of massive 30+ year-old Fisher speakers in my workshop, a turntable, and a cassette player. Even though it's in the workshop under less than ideal heat, cooling, and moisture standards, it puts out incredible sound.

My Dad lost a pair of Fisher speakers when the house flooded. Those things rocked. The bass would rattle the plates stacked in the kitchen cabinets. Mom still has the Fisher head unit, paired with a pair of Bose 301's in bookshelves. Still sounds pretty good.

[CertInsaneC5]

:Jeff '79:

Not joking here.

I have seriously considered mounting handles on the sides of them to more easily move them. :funnier: :cert:

[Bill]

They made quality stuff in the late '70's early '80's.
I've had parties where the amp blew before my speakers...
I think that my Kenwood rack system was the 1979-1980 model.
Eruption from VH at 10 couldn't take those speakers out.

I've got a pair of these, and yeah, those are old school 15" woofers. I actually melted both forward facing tweeters playing a dance in college. The top firing tweeters made it, though.

http://images.addoway.com.s3.amazonaws.com/items/22933/2703287/22933_1_5ba93c.jpg

[lspencer534]

They made quality stuff in the late '70's early '80's.
I've had parties where the amp blew before my speakers...
I think that my Kenwood rack system was the 1979-1980 model.
Eruption from VH at 10 couldn't take those speakers out.

My receiver/amplifier is a Harman/Kardon tube-type. Double-deck cassette player is a Fisher. Those things are indestructible and built like a vault.

[MrPeabody]

The only downside to the old stuff is no remote control, but us geezers can usually reach the controls from our reclining chair by using our cane if our hands aren't shaking too much.:leaving:

[CertInsaneC5]

The only downside to the old stuff is no remote control, but us geezers can usually reach the controls from our reclining chair by using our cane if our hands aren't shaking too much.:leaving:

I have become expert at just throwing a beer bottle at mine. :D

[Jeff '79]

Maximum input, 180 Watts and made in the USA...:seasix:

http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af113/jeff79/DSC08661_zps16d9781a.jpg

http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af113/jeff79/DSC08660_zpsba867ff2.jpg

Listen to the first 40 seconds of this song at 10 and you'll see how good your speakers really are. As the song progresses, you'll wish the dial went to 15.
When those drums kick @ :34, the ceiling tiles snow :D

VUG3Dz9OC_c

[lspencer534]

For Jeff '79:


Widor Toccata at Cathedral Basilica in Newark - YouTube

[CertInsaneC5]

Want to really test them? Try some Quite Riot or Metalica. Call your neighbors first if you have over 1000 watts though. Trust me on this one. :cert:

[MrPeabody]

On vinyl this one will test your bass:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy3IWHSl7hg&list=ALBTKoXRg38BAf52TRJLmGw932RZaR9Yrz&index=3

[Jeff '79]

Want to really test them? Try some Quite Riot or Metalica. Call your neighbors first if you have over 1000 watts though. Trust me on this one. :cert:

I've done that for parties back in the day.... Metallica wasn't born yet though :D
Not in the early '80's anyway....
This little nugget tried to tear 'em up though.

8J9zyviTTmQ

Oh ya! :dance:

[CertInsaneC5]

I've done that for parties back in the day.... Metallica wasn't born yet though :D
Not in the early '80's anyway....
This little nugget tried to tear 'em up though.

8J9zyviTTmQ&list=PLEFF360660C8712BD

Oh ya! :dance:

"an error occurred. please try again" :cool1: :D

[Jeff '79]

"an error occurred. please try again" :cool1: :D

Oops.

8J9zyviTTmQ

[CertInsaneC5]

Oops.

8J9zyviTTmQ

Yup. If that don't tear em up, nothing will. :seasix: :cert:

[Jeff '79]

Yup. If that don't tear em up, nothing will. :seasix: :cert:

I was 18 and was working in the Sears regional credit department when I bought it on discount...
Panasonic EAB-930's for my car and those Kenwoods.
It's a wonder I can still hear anything. :fastguy:

[86RAG]

I build my own :dance:

[Norm]

Been ripping my favorite tunes from cds to a SanDisk Cruzer Glide for the C7, love it, so easy. :seasix:

[Jeff '79]

I build my own :dance:

Made in the USA...:seasix:

Man, those are some stout cabinets.

[OddBall]

I've still got a reel-to-reel

[86RAG]

Made in the USA...:seasix:

Man, those are some stout cabinets.

I used to hang out on a couple speaker building forums and learned all the secrets of speaker box building!

[simpleman68]

the point of new systems isn't to make your music sound better to you, it's to extract your money out of your wallet. :slap:


Truth spoken for the most part. That's why I enjoy spending time researching audio components that work well together and don't break the bank.
Good equipment, well placed and tuned will outperform systems that cost many times more.

In recent years there have been small companies created by other audio nuts that wanted to bring very good quality audio to market without draining folks dry.

I've spent the last year putting together a very good 2 channel room that is very enjoyable to me. Sometimes I put on 180 gram vinyl that sounds incredible on the right equipment.

Not that it surpasses the clarity of the digital realm but a good pressing through an excellent phono stage, out to a great amp and speakers is really great.

I also enjoy playing SACDs, MoFi Masters etc but the vinyl has been fun. Found a German 180 gram pressing of Dire Straits Love Over Gold. Danielle walked in and said "what cd is this"?
She said she would swear it sounded as good as an old cd of theirs.
Scott

Marantz TT-15S1 turntable with Clearaudio MM ebony cartridge
Oppo 105 BDP source unit
Emotiva XSP-1 pre-amp
Parasound Halo A-21 amp
Paradigm Studio 100 V5 speakers
Panamax power conditioner M5300


http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/simpleman68/IMG_20150101_184205647_zps34d27335.jpg

[DukeAllen]

My Corvette and Mustang both have tape decks. I still have my stereo with dual cassettes and a turntable, and a cassette/CD ghetto blaster. I'm not parting with my hundreds of cassettes unless you pry them from my cold, dead hands.

Or offer me far more than they are worth :D

[CubSmurf]

Stop or you'll summon he that shall not be named, aka owner of 5 VCRs and a Kuro.

[CertInsaneC5]

Stop or you'll summon he that shall not be named, aka owner of 5 VCRs and a Kuro.

This thread is about audio not video. :cert:

[lspencer534]

This thread is about audio not video. :cert:

that's right: Audio eroticism, not video eroticism.

[CertInsaneC5]

that's right: Audio eroticism, not video eroticism.

Good thing Barbies don't make any sound huh. :D

[lspencer534]

Good thing Barbies don't make any sound huh. :D

Mine do. :leaving:

[CertInsaneC5]

:waiting: for sounds. :leaving:

[lspencer534]

:waiting: for sounds. :leaving:

That's obscene.... :leaving:

[lspencer534]

:waiting: for sounds. :leaving:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HIwcQFEpQM

[lspencer534]

:waiting: for sounds. :leaving:

Barbie sex tape - YouTube

[John Wiz]

I agree it's to get you to spend more money...

I have this exact amp/pre-amp and tuner in my basement.. Yamaha M-85 Amp and C-85 Pre Amp.

http://img.canuckaudiomart.com/uploads/large/270914-yamaha_m85_power_amp_also_have_pre_amp_and_reciever.jpg

it can run 40 Watts as a pure Class A amp, or up to 260 Watts as a Class AB into 8 ohms. I also have their DSP-1 digital signal processor, one of the first on the market. The Pre-Amp also has a parametric equalizer (instead of a bass/treble adjustment).

I love this old stuff.

It can thump some tunes.. LOL

[DukeAllen]

Mine do. :leaving:

They spit out the gag?