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Datawiz
10-25-2014, 7:34pm
Anyone have any experience with them?

We just got back from their open house. My daughter is still only a junior, but was overwhelmingly impressed with their curriculum, Formula SAE Program, and the professors and class sizes.

Dorms for freshmen are only average, but not a deal breaker. Smallish university, only 5,500 students, but considered #1 in the world for aeronautical engineering (currently 20+ % of the world's airline pilots are ERAU graduates), and #12 in the country for mechanical engineering (her intended major).

Private school...sticker price including room and board is $66K per year. Nobody pays sticker. She can earn up to $15K/year based on her grades (after 3 years, 3.98 unweighted GPA, 4th of 135 students), and test scores.

She's also very interested in becoming a Resident Assistant. They accept applications after only 1 semester at the school. I was an RA, but could only do it in my junior and senior years. Being an RA saves you $14K per year.

Naturally, there are MANY other sources of scholarship income which we will pursue, but the school has an incredible placement rate of 96% of graduates with a job (or Masters program) within 1 year of graduation. Internships (or ROTC) are REQUIRED. 5 of the current students are now working for Tesla. :yesnod:

Any experiences? Thoughts?

I'm pretty sure this school will remain very high on G's short list. Next up...Georgia Southern.

Datawiz
10-25-2014, 7:48pm
Mechanical engineering? I'm partial to Colorado School of Mines or Georgia Tech (and that's coming from a Clemson grad).

I'm not sure how they rank with Mech E in particular but it's up there. Might be worth looking into? Best Engineering Schools in the U.S. as Ranked by College Factual | USA TODAY College (http://college.usatoday.com/2014/08/20/the-top-10-engineering-colleges-in-the-u-s/)


I've only heard good things about Embry but no direct experience. :cheers:

Georgia Tech is also on the list to visit. :yesnod:

ERAU's ME program piggy backs off of the aeronautical program and the vast technological facilities that exist. One of their strongest assets is relationships to corporate sponsors. NASCAR's France family is heavily invested, Roush, Tesla, Boeing (obviously lots of aeronautical sponsors), but I do truly like the fact that Internships are mandatory. The university can facilitate virtually all of them. Pretty cool stuff. :yesnod:

mrvette
10-25-2014, 7:54pm
Smart shrimp there, good on her, and I laugh with some funny as hell recollections of RA life at Univ/MD. some 45 years ago.....

but it was a guys' dorm.....


:rofl::rofl::hurray::cert::cert::cert::cert:

ZipZap
10-25-2014, 7:59pm
Having been in the USAF and associated with aeronautics and space for my entire career, I know a bunch of ERAU grads. Good school; most of the folks are headed there for the flight school aspects.

I also have a decent number of friends that did FSAE at a number of schools. Does she know what part of ME she would like to pursue? I'm partial to EE, only because it gave more options. Does she want to go into the military? Does she want to stay in the automobile side?

In ANY case, a technical degree is a great stepping stone. It's still fairly male dominated, which provides many opportunities for females to be unique when it comes to finding employment.

As a side note, most young engineers I have known that have pursued a career at one of E. Musk's endeavors has enjoyed it immensely. Until they burned out from the incredibly demanding workload. It's a tough, but rewarding path.

Datawiz
10-25-2014, 8:03pm
Having been in the USAF and associated with aeronautics and space for my entire career, I know a bunch of ERAU grads. Good school; most of the folks are headed there for the flight school aspects.

I also have a decent number of friends that did FSAE at a number of schools. Does she know what part of ME she would like to pursue? I'm partial to EE, only because it gave more options. Does she want to go into the military? Does she want to stay in the automobile side?

In ANY case, a technical degree is a great stepping stone. It's still fairly male dominated, which provides many opportunities for females to be unique when it comes to finding employment.

As a side note, most young engineers I have known that have pursued a career at one of E. Musk's endeavors has enjoyed it immensely. Until they burned out from the incredibly demanding workload. It's a tough, but rewarding path.

No interest in military, but I know they are also a big part of ERAU. She's 100% interested in the automotive aspect of ME, in particular racing, hence the FSAE. After today, she's pretty convinced that racing will only be a passion and not a career pursuit, but she wants to be immersed in vehicle dynamics and testing. At a young age, she has a pretty strong "butt-o-meter" already. :yesnod:

Embry is also big on green energy as well, so it can't hurt to have involvement in that either.

GRN ENVY
10-25-2014, 8:04pm
Look into UCF, they have a great Engineering program, many of those candidates work for lockeed martin.

Also UCF engineering club has a race team, go karts, off road buggies, and electric cars etc etc

GRN ENVY
10-25-2014, 8:08pm
In fact a few of my buddies are still in the program and fresh graduates and might have some connections still

Datawiz
10-25-2014, 8:11pm
In fact a few of my buddies are still in the program and fresh graduates and might have some connections still

Looking them up. We're not so much looking for Florida schools for residency issues, but for the best schools for what she's trying to accomplish. I'm a firm believer that the student makes the outcome more than the university does.

For her, the #1 criteria is an active FSAE program. :yesnod:

ZipZap
10-25-2014, 8:12pm
No interest in military, but I know they are also a big part of ERAU. She's 100% interested in the automotive aspect of ME, in particular racing, hence the FSAE. After today, she's pretty convinced that racing will only be a passion and not a career pursuit, but she wants to be immersed in vehicle dynamics and testing. At a young age, she has a pretty strong "butt-o-meter" already. :yesnod:

Embry is also big on green energy as well, so it can't hurt to have involvement in that either.

Clemson. Georgia Tech. VA Tech.

Others, such as Kettering in the upper midwest.

Datawiz
10-25-2014, 8:15pm
Clemson. Georgia Tech. VA Tech.

Others, such as Kettering in the upper midwest.

Just emailed these to her. :seasix:

House is too big to walk over and tell her in person. :lol:

ZipZap
10-25-2014, 8:21pm
Just emailed these to her. :seasix:

House is too big to walk over and tell her in person. :lol:

New business people problems...:D

Datawiz
10-25-2014, 8:29pm
New business people problems...:D

She was already aware of Georgia Tech. We're going to try and coordinate the GA swing and see both Tech and Southern. Not sure when, but soon. :yesnod:

ApexOversteer
10-25-2014, 8:29pm
Wish I could help, but I'm still stunned that these two...

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb164/ApexOversteer/1038/EmbryRiddle.jpg

... have a university named for them...

Datawiz
10-25-2014, 8:30pm
Wish I could help, but I'm still stunned that these two...

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb164/ApexOversteer/1038/EmbryRiddle.jpg

... have a university named for them...

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Well done. :cert:

RonC5
10-25-2014, 9:12pm
Know 2 kids that have gone. One played baseball, the other ROTC. Baseball kid was hire by Lockheed Martin before graduation, moved around thru them for a bit, ended up as an IT admin for a school system in the Carolinas. ROTC kid went straight to the Navy as an officer. Due to be out in a couple unless he becomes a lifer. Both got excellent educations.

69camfrk
10-26-2014, 11:20am
I think it really depends on what her goals are. Does she want to be a .mil type, pilot, etc.? Unless she wants to go into an aviation career, I would think there are other schools that would get the job done easier and cheaper. Also, it would be a helluva lot cheaper for her to go to a junior college for the first two years, then transfer to a 4 year school. Even if she wants to go into engineering, that would be my advice. Just my .02.

TabuIsMe
10-26-2014, 12:59pm
I can't contribute my opinion about that specific school, but I have attended both private universities and public universities, and the private university was a better experience academically, the students were a bunch of spoiled douchebags but that is not related. The classes were smaller, and the attention was there.

69camfrk
10-26-2014, 2:15pm
I can't contribute my opinion about that specific school, but I have attended both private universities and public universities, and the private university was a better experience academically, the students were a bunch of spoiled douchebags but that is not related. The classes were smaller, and the attention was there.

How do you really feel about the other students??:D

Admiral Blue
10-26-2014, 3:41pm
You're going to pay money for that? :confused5: Doesn't she get enough mechanical engineering, etc. in your garage? :yesnod::seasix:

Datawiz
10-26-2014, 5:56pm
I think it really depends on what her goals are. Does she want to be a .mil type, pilot, etc.? Unless she wants to go into an aviation career, I would think there are other schools that would get the job done easier and cheaper. Also, it would be a helluva lot cheaper for her to go to a junior college for the first two years, then transfer to a 4 year school. Even if she wants to go into engineering, that would be my advice. Just my .02.

She's definitely not doing a junior college. As an AP student, she'll transition into virtually any college without the basic class BS that incoming freshman must take.

She is definitely not .mil or .police, simply .car

Girl needs to be behind the wheel figuring things out and making 6 figures. Pretty simple equation. :yesnod:

Datawiz
10-26-2014, 5:59pm
I can't contribute my opinion about that specific school, but I have attended both private universities and public universities, and the private university was a better experience academically, the students were a bunch of spoiled douchebags but that is not related. The classes were smaller, and the attention was there.

Jen, this is valuable info, and why we're attracted to private universities. She's been in private school her entire life. She takes advantage of the teacher-student relationships to overcome any pending issues all of the time. While I'm sure she'd be just fine in a big university, I think the "cozyness" of a small university may suit her well. Small class size is a HUGE plus in our book. :yesnod:

Datawiz
10-26-2014, 6:03pm
You're going to pay money for that? :confused5: Doesn't she get enough mechanical engineering, etc. in your garage? :yesnod::seasix:

I know what I don't know, and I don't know shit.

I hope to learn from her in the future. What excites me is that she is un-wavered in her pursuit of this career. She is a car geek through and through. We just solved an exhaust leak in her Miata, she adjusted both windows in the same car to eliminate rain leaks, and she installed a brand new sway bar 100% on her own.

I only had to drill out a dead aluminum lug nut that she encountered during the sway bar swap. ****ed up the rim plenty. Ordering new rims as we speak. :D

TabuIsMe
10-26-2014, 6:10pm
Jen, this is valuable info, and why we're attracted to private universities. She's been in private school her entire life. She takes advantage of the teacher-student relationships to overcome any pending issues all of the time. While I'm sure she'd be just fine in a big university, I think the "cozyness" of a small university may suit her well. Small class size is a HUGE plus in our book. :yesnod:

Definitely don't take it for granted! Most schools will put you in debt, at least have a good experience while she is there :lol:

Many schools have the option for interested juniors/seniors to stay the night at the college and see how they like the school. (if she will be dorming)

mrvette
10-26-2014, 6:44pm
I know what I don't know, and I don't know shit.

I hope to learn from her in the future. What excites me is that she is un-wavered in her pursuit of this career. She is a car geek through and through. We just solved an exhaust leak in her Miata, she adjusted both windows in the same car to eliminate rain leaks, and she installed a brand new sway bar 100% on her own.

I only had to drill out a dead aluminum lug nut that she encountered during the sway bar swap. ****ed up the rim plenty. Ordering new rims as we speak. :D

reminds me of my Daughter a few years ago, emailing me about how to change the fan belt on her vehicle.....so I asked for pix and she sent them, and so she showed a little selfie with her left greazy paw out extended in victory......and a HUGE grin......


:lol::lol::cert:

69camfrk
10-26-2014, 8:29pm
It appears that she will have no problem getting into any engineering school she wants, but there are so many junior colleges have the fast track into engineering. Your core classes, as you know, are just that. She can save a ton of money get all of that out of the way, and then concentrate on a ME degree. I would go that route way before aeronautical engineering as it sort of limits you so to speak. ME's are always in demand, and once she has her Professional engineering license, her ticket is signed. I have many engineer friends, and all have taken different approaches. Good luck to her regardless of the path she chooses.:seasix:

onedef92
10-27-2014, 7:30am
No first-hand experience, but I had a scholarship to go there back in 1984. I opted for the University of Louisville instead.

Entropy
10-27-2014, 8:53am
It appears that she will have no problem getting into any engineering school she wants, but there are so many junior colleges have the fast track into engineering. Your core classes, as you know, are just that. She can save a ton of money get all of that out of the way, and then concentrate on a ME degree. I would go that route way before aeronautical engineering as it sort of limits you so to speak. ME's are always in demand, and once she has her Professional engineering license, her ticket is signed. I have many engineer friends, and all have taken different approaches. Good luck to her regardless of the path she chooses.:seasix:
I agree with this (I teach a lot of pre-engineering students where I work) to a point.

The only issue has to deal with where you plan on going with the work. If the junior/community college has a good relationship with the transfer institution, than it can definitely be smooth sailing (my engineering students generally transfer to Iowa State or University of Iowa).

However, not all colleges accept all credits, and they have the right to refuse them if they think the course was insufficient.

GRN ENVY
10-27-2014, 9:03am
It appears that she will have no problem getting into any engineering school she wants, but there are so many junior colleges have the fast track into engineering. Your core classes, as you know, are just that. She can save a ton of money get all of that out of the way, and then concentrate on a ME degree. I would go that route way before aeronautical engineering as it sort of limits you so to speak. ME's are always in demand, and once she has her Professional engineering license, her ticket is signed. I have many engineer friends, and all have taken different approaches. Good luck to her regardless of the path she chooses.:seasix:

I agree with this (I teach a lot of pre-engineering students where I work) to a point.

The only issue has to deal with where you plan on going with the work. If the junior/community college has a good relationship with the transfer institution, than it can definitely be smooth sailing (my engineering students generally transfer to Iowa State or University of Iowa).

However, not all colleges accept all credits, and they have the right to refuse them if they think the course was insufficient.

That's what I did, went through a community college to get out the basic English, and arithmetic classes, then was able to transition into a 4 year univierity and concentrate on my degree

69camfrk
10-27-2014, 10:33am
She's definitely not doing a junior college. As an AP student, she'll transition into virtually any college without the basic class BS that incoming freshman must take.

She is definitely not .mil or .police, simply .car

Girl needs to be behind the wheel figuring things out and making 6 figures. Pretty simple equation. :yesnod:

My cousin (the one that passed from cancer this past spring) started at what was then Georgia College in Milledgeville GA. He was a drummer and at the time GC had a program where he could concentrate on pre engineering and work on a music major at the same time. It was a program that was in conjunction with Georgia Tech. He then went on there to finish his degree in ME, and made killer money his whole career. Before he got sick, he was knocking down well over 300k a year. I'm just saying, there are colleges out there that have pre engineering programs that will let you pass a lot of the BS without the major costs involved. If her scholarships etc. make it considerably less costly, then no big deal. If you're paying full price, then that would make a difference to me. ER is a fine school without a doubt, and they have programs offered to .mil types to allow them to finish their degrees, but your choices in degrees are limited at off site campuses, which of course is not a problem considering where you live.:seasix:

Nemesis
10-27-2014, 10:44am
It all depends on what she wants. Does she want to do something like design equipment skids in the medical field, wrench on race cars, or be a pro driver? Not all 'engineering' programs are equal.

snide
10-27-2014, 12:19pm
That's what I did, went through a community college to get out the basic English, and arithmetic classes, then was able to transition into a 4 year univierity and concentrate on my degree

Hope you can get a refund... :leaving:

GRN ENVY
10-27-2014, 12:33pm
Hope you can get a refund... :leaving:

Know day done a good job so i dont kneed a refund

snide
10-27-2014, 12:39pm
Know day done a good job so i dont kneed a refund

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GRN ENVY
10-27-2014, 12:44pm
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