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"CDC: 2nd Dallas health care worker with Ebola took flight night before diagnosis"
How long before it is in your town?
:chitfan:
The second Dallas health care worker diagnosed with Ebola was on a domestic flight the night before being admitted to the hospital, and federal health officials are now tracking down all of the patient's fellow passengers, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said Wednesday.
“At approximately 1:00 a.m. MT on October 15, Frontier was notified by the CDC that a customer traveling on Frontier Airlines flight 1143 Cleveland to Dallas/Fort Worth on Oct. 13 has since tested positive for the Ebola virus,” Frontier Airlines said in a statement. The flight landed at 8:16 p.m. CT.
Airline crew members said the female healthcare worker was reportedly not exhibiting symptoms during the flight. She was placed in isolation early Wednesday morning at Texas Health Presbyterian after reporting a fever.
The CDC said it will begin interviewing the 132 passengers on the flight, answering their questions, and scheduling follow-up meetings after 1 p.m. ET Wednesday.
Frontier Airlines said it was working closely with the CDC to notify passengers who may have traveled on the flight.
The CDC requested that passengers call 1-800-CDC INFO for further information.
The second healthcare worker, who has not been identified by name, was reportedly quarantined within 90 minutes of reporting Ebola symptoms in Dallas. She is the second confirmed hospital worker to become infected after having direct contact with Liberian national Thomas Eric Duncan, who died of Ebola on Oct. 8.
Nina Pham, a 26-year-old nurse at the hospital, also cared for Duncan and has contracted Ebola. After being quarantined, she received a blood transfusion earlier this week from recovered patient Dr. Kent Brantly. Pham has since progressed from “stable” to “good” condition, Texas health officials said in a press conference Wednesday morning.
Officials said they started contact tracing for the second health care worker on Wednesday. They are currently monitoring more than 70 people at the hospital who may have come in contact with Duncan.
Ebola is transmitted through direct contact with bodily fluids, such as blood, sweat, saliva and tears. Symptoms typically appear within 21 days after exposure.
DukeAllen
10-15-2014, 12:32pm
If .gov had any damn sense they'd have closed the borders long ago.
Kevin_73
10-15-2014, 12:34pm
How long before it is in your town?
:chitfan:
About 2 weeks ago. :willy:
My mother is a volunteer at Presbyterian Hospital too.
mrvette
10-15-2014, 12:36pm
If .gov had any damn sense they'd have closed the borders long ago.
It is part of the islamic war on the rest of the world, WE should make damn sure that virus gets into islamic lands...ALL of them, even if we have to weaponize it.....
:issues::seasix:
vetteman9368
10-15-2014, 12:43pm
well we had a scare last night, thought there was a case in Mobile, thankfully it was negative
POS in Chief puts politics (and political correctness) ahead of the safety and welfare of the citizens of the USA.
NeedSpeed
10-15-2014, 3:15pm
This is nice:
Texas nurses: 'There were no protocols' about Ebola - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/14/health/texas-ebola-nurses-union-claims/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)
The second nurse was running a mild fever before she got on the plane.
Secondly the US State department is still issuing visas to people in the Hot zone of Ebola.
Lastly the President cannot stop people coming form Africa to the USA. If he did he would have to close the southern Boarder. And that's something he cannot and will not do unless forced. And by doing so he destroys his presidency.
The second nurse was running a mild fever before she got on the plane.
Personal responsibility is completely lost on some people.
Personal responsibility is completely lost on some people.
Qualified leadership is completely lost on some voters.
Qualified leadership is completely lost on some voters.
You just won't stop will you? Same tired bullshit over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over andover and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over andover and over and over and over and over and....
Personal responsibility is completely lost on some people.
It's been selectively removed from the majority of the population for decades.
It's been selectively removed from the majority of the population for decades.
Unfortunately, I think it was taught.
You just won't stop will you? Same tired bullshit over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and oveand over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over andover and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over andover and over and over and over and over and....
Sadly, liberals need to be reminded regularly and often. And some put more effort into cute internet posts than they do voting. :Jeff '79:
Unfortunately, I think it was taught by liberal teachers.
:D :seasix: :Jeff '79:
Montehall
10-15-2014, 4:00pm
It is part of the islamic war on the rest of the world, WE should make damn sure that virus gets into islamic lands...ALL of them, even if we have to weaponize it.....
:issues::seasix:
We did weaponize it. Back in the 70s
Qualified leadership is completely lost on some voters. Don't make me move this thread. It is about the virus at topic, no politics is at question.
mikeg826
10-15-2014, 5:43pm
Don't make me move this thread. It is about the virus at topic, no politics is at question.
You're a moderator? Must have missed that memo.
You're a moderator? Must have missed that memo.
Lol. It's ok. It's more like herding cats than moderating.
The nurse being taken to Atlanta getting on the plane. Look at the one idiot without protective gear.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0BMyIUIAAEKt6g.jpg
Hey, we have this under control.
Frizzle
10-15-2014, 7:16pm
GSK has one of the two experimental vaccines.
Testing on humans has begun in england as well as Mali.
Long Quest for Ebola Vaccine Slowed by Science, Ethics, Politics (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/10/141014-ebola-vaccine-treatment-history-health-medicine/)
Don't make me move this thread. It is about the virus at topic, no politics is at question.
Threatening to spread e-bola, huh?
:ohnoes:
or stopped flights from Africa; until it was taken care of first.
The only way that would work is if ALL countries agreed on that. The Dallas victim flew from Belgium to the US. Even if we had stopped flights from Africa months ago, he would still have gotten here and done infected that hot Vietnamese nurse. :sadangel:
Mike Mercury
10-15-2014, 7:27pm
Don't make me move this thread. It is about the virus at topic, no politics is at question.
Oh lighten up. Only CF mods act like that.
It's is politics - when flights from Africa weren't halted because the cult threatened to call it " racist".
or stopped flights from Africa; until it was taken care of first.
The government can't do that. If they shut down immigrants form the effected area they then have to secure the southern boarder. And that something that cannot and will not do.
The other side of this is if ONE person with Ebola comes through the southern boarder the government is screwed
Mike Mercury
10-15-2014, 7:32pm
The only way that would work is if ALL countries agreed on that.
wrong. In past times, we would ask flyers "what countries have you been in in the last xx days"... and their previous flight record checked to try to verify their answer.
We can't do that today; because some of these foreigners are too valuable (flying in to vote multiple times in an upcoming election).
mrvette
10-15-2014, 7:34pm
The government can't do that. If they shut down immigrants form the effected area they then have to secure the southern boarder. And that something that cannot and will not do.
The other side of this is if ONE person with Ebola comes through the southern boarder the government is screwed
UHHH, NO, the .gov is not screwed, THEY flip out so some island, and the REST of us are screwed.....
Think for a nanosecond that Rockefellers, Rothschilds, Mellons, Duponts, Fords, and dozens of other secure names are NOT flipping out to islands that can NOT be invaded...???
be curious as hell to know their whereabouts at this juncture.....
:dance::leaving:
wrong. In past times, we would ask flyers "what countries have you been in in the last xx days"... and their previous flight record checked to try to verify their answer.
We can't do that today; because some of these foreigners are too valuable (flying in to vote multiple times in an upcoming election).
It seems like I do remember being asked if I had visited a farm years ago when I visited England when Mad Cow Disease was all the rage. I was truthful, but no one actually checked. I agree we could ask everyone incoming if they had been to the hot zone, but, not everyone is truthful, especially when they realize they will be imprisoned for 21 days if they answer wrong. And I do agree that we could research the travel habits of folks, but if we researched the travel habits of every single inbound traveler, the airports would shut down in gridlock at customs.
Now, we could single out passport holders from the effected countries for additional scrutiny, and that would help (would have stopped the Dallas victim), but even that isn't foolproof, because folks who had been to the hot zone with "clean" passports from other countries could simply lie, and come on in. IOW, I think it would be logistically impossible to check the travel history of every single inbound passenger in real time.
Edit: I bet if you slipped the customs folks in Liberia a $ 50 to not stamp your passport, you'd walk out with no stamp.
mrvette
10-15-2014, 7:50pm
It seems like I do remember being asked if I had visited a farm years ago when I visited England when Mad Cow Disease was all the rage. I was truthful, but no one actually checked. I agree we could ask everyone incoming if they had been to the hot zone, but, not everyone is truthful, especially when they realize they will be imprisoned for 21 days if they answer wrong. And I do agree that we could research the travel habits of folks, but if we researched the travel habits of every single inbound traveler, the airports would shut down in gridlock at customs.
Now, we could single out passport holders from the effected countries for additional scrutiny, and that would help (would have stopped the Dallas victim), but even that isn't foolproof, because folks who had been to the hot zone with "clean" passports from other countries could simply lie, and come on in. IOW, I think it would be logistically impossible to check the travel history of every single inbound passenger in real time.
Edit: I bet if you slipped the customs folks in Liberia a $ 50 to not stamp your passport, you'd walk out with no stamp.
BULLSHIT!!!! in THIS age of computers, you simply can NOT be serious, that statement is just preposterous.......:issues:
BULLSHIT!!!! in THIS age of computers, you simply can NOT be serious, that statement is just preposterous.......:issues:
You are assuming that every country has the same prowess as we do when it comes to record keeping. And even if we had the capability of knowing when every single person in the whole world had been on a commercial plane, that still leaves out private charter planes, tramp steamers, etc. It also leaves out crossings by ground transportation from countries in Africa not currently effected. I doubt the passport control in 3rd world countries is as tight as ours is, and that takes in to account the thousands of illegals waltzing across the Rio Grande each day, sin papeles.
[conspiracy theory] No one seems to know where the Malaysian jet landed. No passport control there. [/conspiracy theory]
If this thing gets worse, with mass casualties, everyone with two nickels to rub together is going to be doing anything they can to GTFO of the hot zone. It wouldn't surprise me if they even had the equivalent of the Mariel Boat Lift coming from Libya.
wrong. In past times, we would ask flyers "what countries have you been in in the last xx days"... and their previous flight record checked to try to verify their answer.
We can't do that today; because some of these foreigners are too valuable (flying in to vote multiple times in an upcoming election).
Ellis island. Turn of last century. If you had a handicap you probably would be deported. Immigrants were scrutinized. Many were turned back.
It seems like I do remember being asked if I had visited a farm years ago when I visited England when Mad Cow Disease was all the rage. I was truthful, but no one actually checked. I agree we could ask everyone incoming if they had been to the hot zone, but, not everyone is truthful, especially when they realize they will be imprisoned for 21 days if they answer wrong. And I do agree that we could research the travel habits of folks, but if we researched the travel habits of every single inbound traveler, the airports would shut down in gridlock at customs.
Now, we could single out passport holders from the effected countries for additional scrutiny, and that would help (would have stopped the Dallas victim), but even that isn't foolproof, because folks who had been to the hot zone with "clean" passports from other countries could simply lie, and come on in. IOW, I think it would be logistically impossible to check the travel history of every single inbound passenger in real time.
Edit: I bet if you slipped the customs folks in Liberia a $ 50 to not stamp your passport, you'd walk out with no stamp.
We are still issuing VISA's to the countries in the effected areas. And the state department is saying they see no reason to stop.
Personal responsibility is completely lost on some people.
She called the CDC when she had a fever of 99.5 but since the little card that some drone was reading off said 100.4 was "high risk" they said it was o.k. to fly. This is what Obamacare will turn this country into, a third world cesspool with minimum wage workers making life or death decisions read off of a card put together by a bunch of know-nothing bureaucrats instead of doctors.
She called the CDC when she had a fever of 99.5 but since the little card that some drone was reading off said 100.4 was "high risk" they said it was o.k. to fly. This is what Obamacare will turn this country into, a third world cesspool with minimum wage workers making life or death decisions read off of a card put together by a bunch of know-nothing bureaucrats instead of doctors.
:iagree:
She called the CDC when she had a fever of 99.5 but since the little card that some drone was reading off said 100.4 was "high risk" they said it was o.k. to fly. This is what Obamacare will turn this country into, a third world cesspool with minimum wage workers making life or death decisions read off of a card put together by a bunch of know-nothing bureaucrats instead of doctors.
More truth here ^^^ then most of us want to admit. :(
She called the CDC when she had a fever of 99.5 but since the little card that some drone was reading off said 100.4 was "high risk" they said it was o.k. to fly. This is what Obamacare will turn this country into, a third world cesspool with minimum wage workers making life or death decisions read off of a card put together by a bunch of know-nothing bureaucrats instead of doctors.
:iagree:
More truth here ^^^ then most of us want to admit. :(
:iagree:
The nurse being taken to Atlanta getting on the plane. Look at the one idiot without protective gear.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0BMyIUIAAEKt6g.jpg
Hey, we have this under control.
Which one of these is not like the other?
...Whitepower...
10-15-2014, 8:50pm
Don't make me move this thread. It is about the virus at topic, no politics is at question.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-gBOoWjU3wDI/UFdS9Y-9_wI/AAAAAAAADCQ/q-psML1GNqU/s1600/slow-clap-gif.gif
Aerovette
10-15-2014, 9:21pm
Personal responsibility is completely lost on some people.
Deleted my original comment. It was already stated.
As a country....
What we could do <-------------------------------- 1 million miles ------------------------------------------------> what we will do.
Oh goodness no, we can't profile. How would muslims blow our country up? How would high risk Africans make us all sick? We have to stay the course until there is nothing left.
JRD77VET
10-15-2014, 9:51pm
Deleted my original comment. It was already stated.
As a country....
What we could do <-------------------------------- 1 million miles ------------------------------------------------> what we will do.
Oh goodness no, we can't profile. How would muslims blow our country up? How would high risk Africans make us all sick? We have to stay the course until there is nothing left.
OK, that's enough common sense out of you :yesnod:
Milton Fox
10-15-2014, 11:08pm
The nurse being taken to Atlanta getting on the plane. Look at the one idiot without protective gear.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0BMyIUIAAEKt6g.jpg
Hey, we have this under control.
What until you see the (edited) videos. He helps them double bag items in one and later is in Atlanta when they load her into the ambulance there!
:island14:
Cybercowboy
10-15-2014, 11:10pm
Don't make me move this thread. It is about the virus at topic, no politics is at question.
Meh, not really. Obama has boned this so completely, it's like a perfect 10 of boneage.
island14
10-16-2014, 12:54am
Edit: I bet if you slipped the customs folks in Liberia a $ 50 to not stamp your passport, you'd walk out with no stamp.
Can they be bribed in some countries? well yeah... some do like tipping..
Don't ask me how I know.. :D
The problem with that thought is that their passport would still show stamped into that country with no ongoing stamp.
Red flag there for sure, And the US immigration would catch it fast.
Backing up a bit and lets say they bribed someone on the way in to a country to not stamp them, that's a bit dangerous... as the odds are against getting the same immigration officer on the way out, and the next guy is going to say WTF!
So now you have two bribes, and the second one is not a guarantee, they might just lock you up.
Yeah there are still ways to get around all this like crossing the border at night just like any terrorist could do.
But the odds are sure cut down a lot if we refuse anyone from those areas.
But not going to happen like Vite1 says, heck they are still giving away free Visa's
69camfrk
10-16-2014, 5:31am
Just wait until they find all the people from that flight with the sick nurse. It's gonna be off to the gulag with them, their friends, anyone they've come in contact with. It's actually the perfect storm of our .gov's making. I worry less about f'n Ebola than I do our .gov.
Makes me wonder if the CDC gave her clearance so they could practice their skills at a full pandemic. They have not had a chance to put many plans into place in a long time (maybe ever) and want to see how they are doing?
The CDC has no skills.
I learned that watching the Walking Dead.
Sea Six
10-16-2014, 5:58am
I learned it from watching the news.
RedLS1GTO
10-16-2014, 6:14am
I learned that watching the Walking Dead.
I learned it from watching the news.
Maybe some hot chick with an accent will come along and save the day.
http://www.boomtron.com/wp-content/uploads/the-last-ship.jpg
.... I joke because looking at the situation critically is terrifying.
http://www.boomtron.com/wp-content/uploads/the-last-ship.jpg
I just started Walking Dead on-demand and still on Season 3...But yes, I have eyeballed this one and will watch it after they have it available on-demand as well.
Mike Mercury
10-16-2014, 7:19am
The CDC call center makes me think that Comcast is competent when I call them.
:lol: :rofl: :lol:
onedef92
10-16-2014, 7:47am
The Stand Movie Trailer (1994) - YouTube
Czarvette
10-16-2014, 8:15am
She called the CDC when she had a fever of 99.5 but since the little card that some drone was reading off said 100.4 was "high risk" they said it was o.k. to fly. This is what Obamacare will turn this country into, a third world cesspool with minimum wage workers making life or death decisions read off of a card put together by a bunch of know-nothing bureaucrats instead of doctors.
And I say what Obamacare will have us doing is putting ketchup on hot dogs.
Cybercowboy
10-16-2014, 8:24am
"Hey CDC, I'm a nurse who hung out with Patient Zero and that nurse who got Ebola from him, and I have a fever and feel like crap. Can I fly commercial?"
"Sure, sounds find. Why wouldn't you? If you can, try not to cough on anyone, k?"
RedLS1GTO
10-16-2014, 8:29am
"Hey CDC, I'm a nurse who hung out with Patient Zero and that nurse who got Ebola from him, and I have a fever and feel like crap. Can I fly commercial?"
"Sure, sounds find. Why wouldn't you? If you can, try not to cough on anyone, k?"
... and the biggest dumbass of the bunch is HER. How in the hell could someone in the medical field be that stupid? You know that you worked with Ebola, you know you have a fever, ...and you hop on a plane anyway?
F**king idiot.
Montehall
10-16-2014, 8:30am
Here's the thing I try to keep in mind...
The nurse got it because of her job. Ebola is not airborne. If you saw a puddle of blood, semen, or diarrhea on the ground, are you going to play in it? You honestly have just as much chance of catching ebola as you do HIV.
Just saying...
Cybercowboy
10-16-2014, 8:36am
Here's the thing I try to keep in mind...
The nurse got it because of her job. Ebola is not airborne. If you saw a puddle of blood, semen, or diarrhea on the ground, are you going to play in it? You honestly have just as much chance of catching ebola as you do HIV.
Just saying...
No, you can get it if someone sneezes or coughs around you. They can touch something (leaving some snot behind for instance) and then later you touch it and you can get it. It's a lot easier to get than HIV.
Z06David
10-16-2014, 8:37am
She called the CDC when she had a fever of 99.5 but since the little card that some drone was reading off said 100.4 was "high risk" they said it was o.k. to fly. This is what Obamacare will turn this country into, a third world cesspool with minimum wage workers making life or death decisions read off of a card put together by a bunch of know-nothing bureaucrats instead of doctors.
Reminds me of that hospital scene in the movie Idiocracy
Mike Mercury
10-16-2014, 8:43am
Obamacare will have us - putting ketchup on hot dogs.
OMG; we will have sunk to the lowest of lows...
:lol:
Here's the thing I try to keep in mind...
The nurse got it because of her job. Ebola is not airborne. If you saw a puddle of blood, semen, or diarrhea on the ground, are you going to play in it? You honestly have just as much chance of catching ebola as you do HIV.
Just saying...
You speak w such resolve. Your credentials in this area?
Cybercowboy
10-16-2014, 10:20am
Keep in mind, that NBC cameraman who got it in Africa claims that he probably got it when he was washing out a car that had been used by someone who died of Ebola.
yell01
10-16-2014, 10:52am
I'm starting to think the CDC call center is in India. :willy:
I'm starting to think the CDC call center is in India. :willy:
#thankyouverymuch
#thankyouverymuch
I tried dialing that on my phone. The person who answered told me to go eff myself. :(
Not bad....
Shep Smith's rejoinder to "irresponsible" Ebola coverage - YouTube
“For the next few minutes I’m gonna give you the facts on Ebola. It’ll take just three minutes. But first, today, given what we know, you should have no concerns about Ebola at all — none, I promise. Unless a medical professional has contacted you personally and told you about some sort of possible exposure, fear not. Do not listen to the hysterical voices on the radio and the television or read the fear-provoking words online. The people who say and write hysterical things are being very irresponsible. Here are the facts: a man contracted Ebola overseas. Tragically, he was dying in a Texas hospital. He was his most contagious while showing the most symptoms; that’s how Ebola works. And a healthcare worker at the hospital got the virus from him. She is doing well she says, Skyping with her family from isolation just yesterday, saying she’s blessed to have so much support and such great medical care. The CDC director told us, all of us, yesterday that he did indeed expect other healthcare workers at that hospital who treated that one dying patient to contract the virus — and that’s now happened. Another healthcare worker at that same hospital now has Ebola. They tell us they’re transferring her to Emory University Hospital in Atlanta. Now, before she showed symptoms she flew from Cleveland to Dallas on Frontier Airlines. They say she should not have done that but she did. But as we all now know, if you don’t show symptoms you are not contagious. She did not show symptoms, according to the doctors. Still, medical professionals are contacting everyone who was on that plane to make sure each person is okay. The CDC director says chances are very slim that any of those passengers is sick.
Now, big picture, and this is important. You have to remember that in the middle of all of this, you have to remember that there is politics in the mix. With mid-term elections coming, the party in charge has to appear to be effectively leading. The party out of power needs to show that there is a lack of leadership. So the president has canceled a fundraising trip and is holding meetings and his political opponents are accusing his administration of poor leadership. For the purpose of this fact-dissemination exercise, those matters are immaterial. Again, these are the facts. We do not have an outbreak of Ebola in the United States, nowhere. We do have two healthcare workers who contracted the disease from a dying man — they are isolated. There is no information to suggest that the virus has spread to anyone in the general population in America. Not one person in the general population in the United States. Suggestions have been made publicly that leaders and medical professionals may be lying to us. Those suggestions are completely without basis in fact. There is no evidence of any kind, of which we at Fox News are aware, that leaders have lied about anything regarding Ebola. I report to you with certainty this afternoon that being afraid at all is the wrong thing to do. Being “petrified,” and that’s a quote, is ridiculous. The panic that has tanked the stock market and left people fearful that their children will get sick at school is counterproductive and lacks basis in fact or reason. There is no Ebola spreading in America. Should that change our reporting will change. But there is nothing to indicate that it will. Best advice for you and your family at this moment? Get a flu shot. Unlike Ebola, flu is easily transmitted. Flu along with resulting pneumonia killed 52,000 American last year alone. A fly shot will reduce your chance of getting flu. So get one.”
C5SilverBullet
10-16-2014, 1:13pm
They are doing the ebola research at the hospital my mom works at, it is also where they're bringing all the clothing/gear worn by the cleanup people to be destroyed.
Sorry Dixie I disagree. Shep is a douchbag and hypocrite.
Wasn't he the guy in New Orleans for days crying and screaming? And now, those ringing the Ebola alarm bells are hysterical?
GMAFB.
Cybercowboy
10-16-2014, 1:38pm
Sorry Dixie I disagree. Shep is a douchbag and hypocrite.
Wasn't he the guy in New Orleans for days crying and screaming? And now, those ringing the Ebola alarm bells are hysterical?
GMAFB.
Why yes, yes he was. Shep is a narcissistic douche with a remarkable talent of making me want to change the channel.
They are doing the ebola research at the hospital my mom works at, it is also where they're bringing all the clothing/gear worn by the cleanup people to be destroyed.
The furnace stuff does not bother me. We have a nice one here as well and I have a friend that is part of the crew that has to take the animals from the labs "after" and dispose of them.
He does not talk about work much...Can't say I dont blame him
mrvette
10-16-2014, 1:40pm
One of the nurses is being flipped over to Nat. Inst. Health Bethesda Md....just outside DC......when I was a little kid, I watched them construct Building ten, the huge brick structure, I played on what was then Glenbrook Golf Course, my ex wife worked/played at working at the National Library of Medicine Lister Hill Center for Bio Med Communications.....
It is my bet they cleaned out some smaller structure on that vast campus and have her there....I don't think building ten is modern enough to accommodate this kind of contagion......but then again.....over 60 years, maybe a few changes have been made.....:dance::D:cert:
This just in
Watch: Dallas Nurse Reveals Shocking Hospital Blunder That Exposed Her And Others To Ebola (http://www.westernjournalism.com/nurse-just-revealed-sobering-things-ebola-preparation-america/)
Kevin_73
10-16-2014, 3:09pm
I just got a text from Liz. Possible ebola victim is being taken in to the ER in Lubbock where her youngest daughter works as a nurse. :willy:
Meeko87
10-16-2014, 3:25pm
This damn ebola is spreading so slowly I am going to die of old age before I get a chance to get it. :sadangel:
Montehall
10-16-2014, 3:52pm
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lspencer534
10-16-2014, 4:07pm
Sorry Dixie I disagree. Shep is a douchbag and hypocrite.
Wasn't he the guy in New Orleans for days crying and screaming? And now, those ringing the Ebola alarm bells are hysterical?
GMAFB.
Let's back up for the facts about Shep and Hurricane Katrina: Yes, he was in NOLA screaming about the conditions there. He was trying to tell the Country that people there were trapped in their attics, dying on the streets, dying in hospitals, etc. And you know what? He was right.
No one else was giving the true horror of the damage done by Katrina. You can characterize him as being hysterical, but I for one was glad that he was.
StaticCling
10-16-2014, 4:12pm
Sorry Dixie I disagree. Shep is a douchbag and hypocrite.
Wasn't he the guy in New Orleans for days crying and screaming? And now, those ringing the Ebola alarm bells are hysterical?
GMAFB.
:iagree:
This is a colossal CLUSTERPHUCK. What about this 'nurse' that boarded an airplane, a PHUCKING COMMERCIAL JETLINER, that had direct contact with the original ebola patient, had a fever (A FUC*ING FEVER!) and was told by the CDC that her fever wasn't high enough to warrant concern.
ARE YOU F**KING KIDDING ME! These people have their heads up their asses and in the sand at the same time!
NeedSpeed
10-16-2014, 4:22pm
Ebola nurse Amber Vinson called CDC several times before flying - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ebola-nurse-called-cdc-several-times/)
Let's back up for the facts about Shep and Hurricane Katrina: Yes, he was in NOLA screaming about the conditions there. He was trying to tell the Country that people there were trapped in their attics, dying on the streets, dying in hospitals, etc. And you know what? He was right.
No one else was giving the true horror of the damage done by Katrina. You can characterize him as being hysterical, but I for one was glad that he was.
Those people had themselves and Mayor Chocolate City to blame for that. Gee, NOAA warned us to evacuate. We have 600 school busses we aren't using at the moment. What to do, what to do?
A:
http://wingstv.com/images/Schoolbuses.jpg
The only school bus that wasn't totaled due to flooding damage was stolen by an 18 year old kid who picked up his friends, then after a while, anyone, and headed to the safety of the Houston Astrodome.
As to the people trapped in their attics, again, they were at fault . Everybody knows when you live in the NO area, you keep an ax in the attic. We heard that when we moved to the area in the latee 70's.
lspencer534
10-16-2014, 4:39pm
Those people had themselves and Mayor Chocolate City to blame for that. Gee, NOAA warned us to evacuate. We have 600 school busses we aren't using at the moment. What to do, what to do?
A:
http://wingstv.com/images/Schoolbuses.jpg
The only school bus that wasn't totaled due to flooding damage was stolen by an 18 year old kid who picked up his friends, then after a while, anyone, and headed to the safety of the Houston Astrodome.
As to the people trapped in their attics, again, they were at fault . Everybody knows when you live in the NO area, you keep an ax in the attic. We heard that when we moved to the area in the latee 70's.
Whoa, Tonto! I'm not taking up for the residents of that God-forsaken, stupid-ass City. I'm just saying that Shep was the only newsman who got the assessment of the situation correct. The rest of the newspeople were simply regurgitating what "Brownie" (FEMA Head) was saying: "Yes, everything's fine...we have it under control...etc."
I don't listen to Shep any more because I don't watch TV, and I'm certainly not advocating for him in general.
I just got a text from Liz. Possible ebola victim is being taken in to the ER in Lubbock where her youngest daughter works as a nurse. :willy:
I think that's when I would suddenly feel sick and need to go home
Let's back up for the facts about Shep and Hurricane Katrina: Yes, he was in NOLA screaming about the conditions there. He was trying to tell the Country that people there were trapped in their attics, dying on the streets, dying in hospitals, etc. And you know what? He was right.
No one else was giving the true horror of the damage done by Katrina. You can characterize him as being hysterical, but I for one was glad that he was.
Not criticizing Shemp for his NOLA reporting. I'm criticizing him for saying others are overdoing the bell ringing on Ebola.
:iagree:
This is a colossal CLUSTERPHUCK. What about this 'nurse' that boarded an airplane, a PHUCKING COMMERCIAL JETLINER, that had direct contact with the original ebola patient, had a fever (A FUC*ING FEVER!) and was told by the CDC that her fever wasn't high enough to warrant concern.
ARE YOU F**KING KIDDING ME! These people have their heads up their asses and in the sand at the same time!
Yes, but she's a NURSE and should know better than anyone if there is even the slightest doubt. Yes, the CDC is completely incompetent but the nurse is an azzhole for putting many others at risk.
Whoa, Tonto! I'm not taking up for the residents of that God-forsaken, stupid-ass City. I'm just saying that Shep was the only newsman who got the assessment of the situation correct. The rest of the newspeople were simply regurgitating what "Brownie" (FEMA Head) was saying: "Yes, everything's fine...we have it under control...etc."
I don't listen to Shep any more because I don't watch TV, and I'm certainly not advocating for him in general.
Friedan makes Brownie look brilliant.
VetteBoy1979
10-17-2014, 1:36am
I'm waiting on my flight from Amsterdam to Houston. There is a group of folks that no one seems to want to sit next to. Any guesses as to why? :bigears:
Sea Six
10-17-2014, 1:41am
I'm waiting on my flight from Amsterdam to Houston. There is a group of folks that no one seems to want to sit next to. Any guesses as to why? :bigears:
Racism?
Montehall
10-17-2014, 6:10am
Racism?
No deodorant?
Not enough potential for transmission on an airplane. Why not go on a cruise instead?
Belize Confirms Patient With Ebola Symptoms On Cruise Ship Off Its Coast (http://belizean.com/belize-confirms-patient-with-ebola-symptoms-on-cruise-ship-off-its-coast-1814/)
wwomanC6
10-17-2014, 2:28pm
I'm waiting on my flight from Amsterdam to Houston. There is a group of folks that no one seems to want to sit next to. Any guesses as to why? :bigears:
Their from TEXASSS!
:ohnoes:
wwomanC6
10-17-2014, 2:31pm
Not enough potential for transmission on an airplane. Why not go on a cruise instead?
Belize Confirms Patient With Ebola Symptoms On Cruise Ship Off Its Coast (http://belizean.com/belize-confirms-patient-with-ebola-symptoms-on-cruise-ship-off-its-coast-1814/)
At least their gov has the nuts to stop possible foreigners from coming into their country and bring in Ebola! :seasix:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/1488065_10204536370105051_3797683371641283077_n.jpg?oh=a5278f5dbe9898a0d846149ee4882720&oe=54C0AA2C&__gda__=1420808615_4bc56a52f5ea2cac5558642105debcfc
:seasix:
I'm ready now
I'm waiting on my flight from Amsterdam to Houston. There is a group of folks that no one seems to want to sit next to. Any guesses as to why? :bigears:
Amway convention? Scientologists? Jehovah's Witnesses?
Why in the F**king F**k are the people who had contact with the known cases off traveling?
Because they knew it was ...
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Scissors
10-17-2014, 5:14pm
POS in Chief puts politics (and political correctness) ahead of the safety and welfare of the citizens of the USA.
Which political correctness are we talking about? The one where he's pro-freedom and lets people do what they want without government intervention, or the one where he sends his thugs to imprison people before they've been found guilty of a crime?
:dance:
mrvette
10-17-2014, 5:35pm
Which political correctness are we talking about? The one where he's pro-freedom and lets people do what they want without government intervention, or the one where he sends his thugs to imprison people before they've been found guilty of a crime?
:dance:
QUIT being stupid, damnit.......some daze you are just a jerk, and I don't mind it most of the time, but this time you are off BASE, Way the hell off....
get a clue.....JERK@!!!!!:issues:
Frizzle
10-17-2014, 6:08pm
2 fave meme's from today.
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http://issuehawk.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/ebola-united-states-dallas-texas-meme-5-530x172.jpg
...Whitepower...
10-17-2014, 10:44pm
http://issuehawk.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/ebola-united-states-dallas-texas-meme-5-530x172.jpg
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Cybercowboy
10-18-2014, 8:04am
:rolleyes:
mrvette
10-18-2014, 8:20am
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Two totally different diseases, and wasn't AIDS done by some raging queer in the airlines industry, flipping all over spreading that crap he caught in Africa?? it's not like a person is noticeably sick in a few weeks....
:issues:
Cybercowboy
10-18-2014, 8:34am
Two totally different diseases, and wasn't AIDS done by some raging queer in the airlines industry, flipping all over spreading that crap he caught in Africa?? it's not like a person is noticeably sick in a few weeks....
:issues:
Also billions have been thrown into HIV-related research since the 80's, with still no cure and even though GWB also gave billions of dollars to various African countries to stop the spread of AIDS - more than all other presidents combined last I heard - AIDS is still rampant there and he gets almost no credit for it by the left. So it's not like they really care about that, they just like using it for a political football.
In this case Obama could have simply been competent instead of playing politics with this issue. He could have demanded those he put in charge do a good competent job. Instead he has doubled-down on stupid, and his minions are a running joke of incompetence and double-talk.
And that doesn't even touch on the seven and counting little kids that have died of the respiratory virus that suddenly appeared from Central America, coinciding precisely with the arrival of all those future Democrat voters under the moniker "Unaccompanied Alien Children". Obama has simply shown that he doesn't give a rat's ass about disease riddled people flooding over our borders and the resulting death and chaos.
Comparing Reagan's repsonse to AIDs in the 80s to Obama's response to ebola in 2014 is a bit of ridiculous.
First and foremost: Funding was provided for AIDs research by the Reagan administration. They Left's beef? He never said the word AIDs on TV. No matter that we didn't know jack shit about the disease. No matter that things worked differently in the past? The Left of any group should realize that things worked differently in the past. Otherwise their desire to keep slavery legal should be relevant now.
:yesnod:
Ouch:
"Last year, the administration unveiled a budget that reduces AIDS funding globally by roughly $214 million, the first time an American president has reduced the U.S. commitment to fighting the epidemic since it broke out in the 1980s during the Reagan administration."
Bush AIDS policies shadow Obama in Africa - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/africa/bush-aids-policies-shadow-obama-in-africa/2013/06/30/0c8e023c-e1ac-11e2-aef3-339619eab080_story.html)
Cybercowboy
10-18-2014, 2:28pm
Commercial from 2001. I actually remember this.
2001 Holiday Inn Ebola commercial revealing the incompetence surrounding ebola - YouTube
Cybercowboy
10-18-2014, 2:29pm
Oh, and this gem. (http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/2010-04-01-quarantine_N.htm)
Obama administration scraps quarantine regulations
Posted 4/1/2010 8:53 PM
By Alison Young, USA TODAY
The Obama administration has quietly scrapped plans to enact sweeping new federal quarantine regulations that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention touted four years ago as critical to protecting Americans from dangerous diseases spread by travelers.
The regulations, proposed in 2005 during the Bush administration amid fears of avian flu, would have given the federal government additional powers to detain sick airline passengers and those exposed to certain diseases. They also would have expanded requirements for airlines to report ill passengers to the CDC and mandated that airlines collect and maintain contact information for fliers in case they later needed to be traced as part of an investigation into an outbreak.
Airline and civil liberties groups, which had opposed the rules, praised their withdrawal.
The Air Transport Association had decried them as imposing "unprecedented" regulations on airlines at costs they couldn't afford. "We think that the CDC was right to withdraw the proposed rule," association spokeswoman Elizabeth Merida said Thursday.
The American Civil Liberties Union had objected to potential passenger privacy rights violations and the proposal's "provisional quarantine" rule. That rule would have allowed the CDC to detain people involuntarily for three business days if the agency believed they had certain diseases: pandemic flu, infectious tuberculosis, plague, cholera, SARS, smallpox, yellow fever, diphtheria or viral hemorrhagic fevers such as Ebola.
"The fact that they're backing away from this very coercive style of quarantine is good news," said ACLU legislative counsel Christopher Calabrese, who was unaware the proposed rules had been withdrawn.
StaticCling
10-18-2014, 6:20pm
Here is some food for thought...
(Copy and Pasted from the other place)
Letter to the Editor, Lewiston Morning Tribune:
If I wish to import a horse into the United States from Liberia or any African country other than Morocco, the horse needs to undergo a 60 day quarantine period at a USDA approved quarantine facility prior to mingling with the general population of horses in this country. Africa has a disease called African Horse Sickness that does not exist in the US; this is the way we have kept it out of this country. African Horse Sickness does not cause disease in people, only horses; our government has determined that it would be devastating to the US horse industry if it were to come here.
The United States (and virtually all other countries) require a myriad of tests and often quarantine prior to bringing in a foreign animal.
I can’t legally cross state lines in the United States with a horse or cow without a health certificate signed by a USDA accredited veterinarian stating that the animal has been inspected and found free of infectious disease. In most cases blood tests are also required. In fact I can’t legally cross the Snake River and ride my horse in Idaho without a health certificate and a negative blood test for Equine Infectious Anemia.
I’m not complaining; the United States of America, the States of Idaho and Washington as well as the other 48 states take the health of our livestock very seriously, and we have a very good record at keeping foreign animal diseases out of our country. I am happy to do my part to maintain biosecurity in our animal population.
If I am a resident of Liberia incubating Ebola, to enter the United States all I need to do is present a valid visa, and lie when asked if I have been exposed to Ebola. Within hours (no quarantine required) I can be walking the streets of any city in the United States.
I feel very fortunate to live in a country that values our animals so highly.
David A. Rustebakke, DVM
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