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JRD77VET
09-13-2014, 8:10pm
Finally found a power hacksaw that was both heavy duty and affordable. I found a Racine power hack saw on CL that is complete except for an electric motor.

I took my trailer this morning and took a 45 minute ride to where it was located. We agreed on a price and he put the saw ( which he already had on a skid ) on my trailer with his bobcat skidsteer . When I got home, I unloaded it myself which was actually pretty easy since my trailer tilts. The saw is all cast iron and weighs easily over 300 lbs.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/JRD77VET/Triples/home%20shop/Racine%20power%20hack%20saw/DSC00700.jpg~original

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/JRD77VET/Triples/home%20shop/Racine%20power%20hack%20saw/DSC00701.jpg~original

It has patent dates of 1908, 1914 and 1918 on it :lol:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/JRD77VET/Triples/home%20shop/Racine%20power%20hack%20saw/DSC00699.jpg~original

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/JRD77VET/Triples/home%20shop/Racine%20power%20hack%20saw/DSC00702.jpg~original

It has a missing handle to engage power
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/JRD77VET/Triples/home%20shop/Racine%20power%20hack%20saw/DSC00703.jpg~original

The flywheel has a clutch on it, here in the free wheel position
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/JRD77VET/Triples/home%20shop/Racine%20power%20hack%20saw/DSC00704.jpg~original

Engaged
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/JRD77VET/Triples/home%20shop/Racine%20power%20hack%20saw/DSC00705.jpg~original

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/JRD77VET/Triples/home%20shop/Racine%20power%20hack%20saw/DSC00709.jpg~original

Since it was originally run off a flat belt ( most likely an overhead line shaft ), they added a piece of tubing and a jackshaft to power it
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/JRD77VET/Triples/home%20shop/Racine%20power%20hack%20saw/DSC00712.jpg~original

Even came with an electrical box
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/JRD77VET/Triples/home%20shop/Racine%20power%20hack%20saw/DSC00710.jpg~original

A yardstick ( from a local dealership that closed over twenty years ago ) for scale

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/JRD77VET/Triples/home%20shop/Racine%20power%20hack%20saw/DSC00715.jpg~original

Here's a youtube video of one running off a flat belt
Racine Power Hacksaw Cutting Table Legs - YouTube
markids77
09-13-2014, 8:15pm
I love old tools. They will last several lifetimes since they were designed to be repaired repeatedly instead of replaced as things wear out. Great find.
Stevedore
09-14-2014, 7:06am
Cool old machine. Are you going to disassemble, repaint, etc.?

I restored a 1946 Delta bandsaw a long time ago, and it's my favorite machine in my shop. Nothing like good old heavy cast iron.

In your photos, there's a v-belt pulley outside the flywheel. In the video, it seems like it's driving something down at ground level. Do you know what it's for? Just curious...
Jeff '79
09-14-2014, 7:13am
:cool1:

What HP motor will you put on it?
Bucwheat
09-14-2014, 7:17am
How bout an LS3 :lol:
StaticCling
09-14-2014, 7:48am
That's pretty dang neat!
CertInsaneC5
09-14-2014, 8:01am
Looks like a lot of fun to restore. Can you still get blades for it? Or do you have the modify some? :cert:
LATB
09-14-2014, 8:01am
That old saw couldn't land in better hands. :cert:
JRD77VET
09-14-2014, 7:04pm
Cool old machine. Are you going to disassemble, repaint, etc.?

I restored a 1946 Delta bandsaw a long time ago, and it's my favorite machine in my shop. Nothing like good old heavy cast iron.

In your photos, there's a v-belt pulley outside the flywheel. In the video, it seems like it's driving something down at ground level. Do you know what it's for? Just curious...

The V belt pulley is for the oil pump to lube the blade as it cuts.

:cool1:

What HP motor will you put on it?

1 hp but I did find a 120V 1-1/2 hp electric motor on CL

Looks like a lot of fun to restore. Can you still get blades for it? Or do you have the modify some? :cert:

Blades are still available

That old saw couldn't land in better hands. :cert:

:cert:

I (over) oiled it up today and moves really smooth. :hurray:
Dave
09-15-2014, 5:47am
It has patent dates of 1908, 1914 and 1918 on it :lol:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/JRD77VET/Triples/home%20shop/Racine%20power%20hack%20saw/DSC00699.jpg~original


Nice looking piece of arn, but 1918? Really? Why did you buy the new model? :rolleyes:
stingraymyway
09-15-2014, 6:19am
The V belt pulley is for the oil pump to lube the blade as it cuts.



1 hp but I did find a 120V 1-1/2 hp electric motor on CL



Blades are still available



:cert:

I (over) oiled it up today and moves really smooth. :hurray:


From the looks of the power box, are you sure it's not a 3 phase design?
Frizzle
09-15-2014, 7:46am
From the looks of the power box, are you sure it's not a 3 phase design?

Previous owner could of installed a 3 phase motor starter.... In 1914 they didn't have disconnects and motor starters.
Blademaker
09-15-2014, 8:52am
Cooool..............:seasix:
Dave
09-15-2014, 9:05am
From the looks of the power box, are you sure it's not a 3 phase design?

Looks like only 2 leads in the starter.
With no motor, it doesn't matter anyhow. A "3-phase starter" can be used for single phase.
Norm
09-15-2014, 9:27am
That will last forever. I'm sure if you don't use it, some industrial museum will scarf that up. :seasix:
JRD77VET
09-15-2014, 7:52pm
From the looks of the power box, are you sure it's not a 3 phase design?

Previous owner could of installed a 3 phase motor starter.... In 1914 they didn't have disconnects and motor starters.

The guy who I bought it from had his Dad look at it and he said it was single phase. Not enough wires for 3 phase.
Frizzle
09-15-2014, 9:06pm
The guy who I bought it from had his Dad look at it and he said it was single phase. Not enough wires for 3 phase.

Right but you can install (in theory) a 3phase motor starter on a single phase motor.

Could of been the person before the last owner who did it.. the motor starter looks pre 1970s.
JRD77VET
09-16-2014, 7:54pm
Another CL score, a 1-1/2 hp electric motor which can be wired 110 or 220 V :hurray:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/JRD77VET/Triples/home%20shop/Racine%20power%20hack%20saw/DSC00717.jpg~original

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/JRD77VET/Triples/home%20shop/Racine%20power%20hack%20saw/DSC00716.jpg~original

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Just need a pulley and a belt now :D
JRD77VET
09-28-2014, 6:50pm
More progress today :seasix:

I got a piece of 1/4" steel plate 12" x 16" for the jackshaft / motor mount. Made a longer shaft since I had to put both pulleys on the one side.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/JRD77VET/Triples/home%20shop/Racine%20power%20hack%20saw/DSC00721.jpg~original

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/JRD77VET/Triples/home%20shop/Racine%20power%20hack%20saw/DSC00722.jpg~original

I had it running for about a minute. The Allen Bradley thermal heaters trip. I need to figure out what size I need. The motor has 19.2 amps draw running 110. I have size 27 currently in it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/JRD77VET/Triples/home%20shop/Racine%20power%20hack%20saw/DSC00728.jpg~original
Y2Kvert4me
09-28-2014, 7:14pm
The Allen Bradley thermal heaters trip. I need to figure out what size I need. The motor has 19.2 amps draw running 110. I have size 27 currently in it.If those are N27, they're only good to about 7a. N38 is probably what you need.

http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/td/815-td002_-en-p.pdf
JRD77VET
10-04-2014, 6:57pm
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