Shooting Range Advice Wanted

[Jeff '79]

Ok guys.... Last year I got flamed for my range, so I moved it.The pistol stop is 6"x6" treated as it was before, BUT, my question is...
How thick of a box should I build behind it?
I'm filling it with crusher run stone so I'm thinking that 6" deep will be adequate.:waiting:

http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af113/jeff79/DSC06830_zps734ecf27.jpg

http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af113/jeff79/DSC06831_zps42b641b0.jpg

http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af113/jeff79/DSC06832_zpse8a1a720.jpg

The pics were taken from inside the back of my barn from which I will be able to shoot from. The long target is 150' away

[DAB]

what happens when you miss the backstop? how far away is the property line? fenced and signed? stuff happens.

[Jeff '79]

what happens when you miss the backstop? how far away is the property line? fenced and signed? stuff happens.

A hill begins after a stream at the tree line. The ledge is taller than the trees.
Beyond that is a half a mile of thick woods. No worries there.

[DAB]

so if terrain and distance is in your favor, why bother with a backstop (ricochet generator)?

[Frizzle]

6 foot dirt berm would be the best solution.

[Blademaker]

what happens when you miss the backstop?.

Practice, practice, practice.....:D

[Sea Six]

6 foot dirt berm would be the best solution.

That's what I'm saying. 20 yards of dirt would be a good start.

[Marc]

I think I understand what you are looking to do, so, I would use the 6x6 wall as the back and build a box to the front. The box should be about 2 feet thick for the stone/filler. At the front face I would use 2 layers of 3/4 ply, 1.5" total thickness to hang targets on. My reason is I want the bullet to penetrate into the filler and let the filler do its job and the 6x6 should remain in good shape for years as long as you replenish the filler as needed. This also allows you to add plywood as needed to the front with just wood screws. Target area of 4x4 makes it easy with 1 4x8 sheet of ply. The box sides should be something like 4x4 and lag bolted to the rear wall. And of course I would only use hollow points or wad cutters. Happy hunting, now have a drink. :cert::cert:

[73sbVert]

I think I understand what you are looking to do, so, I would use the 6x6 wall as the back and build a box to the front. The box should be about 2 feet thick for the stone/filler. At the front face I would use 2 layers of 3/4 ply, 1.5" total thickness to hang targets on. My reason is I want the bullet to penetrate into the filler and let the filler do its job and the 6x6 should remain in good shape for years as long as you replenish the filler as needed. This also allows you to add plywood as needed to the front with just wood screws. Target area of 4x4 makes it easy with 1 4x8 sheet of ply. The box sides should be something like 4x4 and lag bolted to the rear wall. And of course I would only use hollow points or wad cutters. Happy hunting, now have a drink. :cert::cert:

This sounds outstanding! :cheers:

[DAB]

i'm not a big fan of shooting at a wall of lumber. that said, you could also buy some sandbags, fill them up, and then position your target on a stand in front of them. if they get too shot up, pull them out and replace. sand is cheap, as are sand bags. let the lumber be in back for support of the sand bags.

my preference would be a dirt berm with lots of distance beyond.

assume all guns are loaded until personally inspected
keep guns pointed in a safe direction until ready to fire
keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire
know your target and what's beyond.

[Jeff '79]

I think I understand what you are looking to do, so, I would use the 6x6 wall as the back and build a box to the front. The box should be about 2 feet thick for the stone/filler.

2' thick???

The wall is only for pistols.
Don't you think that 6" of crusher run is sufficient?
I never thought to put it in front of the wall....

The far target is only for .22 .

This is what it looks like nekkid. As you can tell the rise is quite substantial, but what you can't see is the slight downhill grade to the targets.

http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af113/jeff79/DSC02555_zps4b7ae910.jpg

[mrvette]

what happens when you miss the backstop? how far away is the property line? fenced and signed? stuff happens.

This shit goes back SO far, and from the shit going on today.....I can't believe we got away with it.....along the shores of the Potomac River, about 1/2 way from DC to West By God Virginia.....there is a power plant run by PEPCO, who supplies electric to about 2/3 of the DC region.....IF you consider Bawltimore as another region.....and so there was an open access to some barn on an old dairy....barn built of cinderblock.....so we set up an indoor range...and blew holes in the block....and over the hill toward the power plant some 1/2 mile away.....I still wonder if the plant knew they were under siege...


Coal plant, so no biggie.....


:D:seasix::hurray:

[Marc]

I think the first 6" minimum will be disrupted with every shot, so that only leaves 18" to stop the bullet. Crazy shit is gonna happen in that cavity every time you fire the gun.

[Jeff '79]

I think the first 6" minimum will be disrupted with every shot, so that only leaves 18" to stop the bullet. Crazy shit is gonna happen in that cavity every time you fire the gun.

I was talking to my buddy at a party today. He's an engineer and has the front loader that will fill the cavity with the crusher run.
He seems to think that 6" is sufficient to stop pistol bullets. He also recommends putting it behind the wall.
I'll probably go with 8", as I have some 2"x 8"'s laying around.
If that don't stop 'em, then the hill will.
I don't want to over thing this thing too much.

[mrvette]

I think the first 6" minimum will be disrupted with every shot, so that only leaves 18" to stop the bullet. Crazy shit is gonna happen in that cavity every time you fire the gun.

OH YEH, on more that one occasion we saw a bit of brass coming back our way tumbling along the wall to the left.....

ummmm......serious, no bullshit....

:dance::issues::leaving:

[Jeff '79]

OH YEH, on more that one occasion we saw a bit of brass coming back our way tumbling along the wall to the left.....

ummmm......serious, no bullshit....

:dance::issues::leaving:

That's why it'll go into the wood wall first, totally minimizing the chance of that occurring.

[Sea Six]

And how much would 20 yards of dirt cost ya? Deee-livered and innn-stalled?

And free to a good home whenever you wanted to give it away?

[JRD77VET]

I was talking to my buddy at a party today. He's an engineer and has the front loader that will fill the cavity with the crusher run.
He seems to think that 6" is sufficient to stop pistol bullets. He also recommends putting it behind the wall.
I'll probably go with 8", as I have some 2"x 8"'s laying around.
If that don't stop 'em, then the hill will.
I don't want to over thing this thing too much.

If you already decided on what you're going to do, why ask? :dunno:

[Sea Six]

Jeff.

Jeff, Jeff, Jeff, Jeff, Jeff.

A backstop [back-stop (N)] is supposed to STOP a bullet.

Not slow it down so that maybe the whateVar the feck is behind it will stop it and in case god I hope so nobody else is back there.

That's why we call it a backSTOP and not a slowitdownmaybeihopeandbesidesanengineertoldmehethoughmaybeMichaelJacksonsaiditmightworkstop.

Food for thought.

Get some Dirt, Dirt, Dirt, Dirt, Dirt. And plenty of it. None of this wussin' around with building Rick O'Shea stuff.

[Jeff '79]

If you already decided on what you're going to do, why ask? :dunno:

I asked early this afternoon. I talked to my buddy at a party after I posted.
:wtf: Really?

What a bunch of politically correct posters we have here.

Kinda like telling Datawiz to have his daughter wear safety things and use jackstands almost ruined that thread.
Like he doesn't already know that, but 10 people had to jump all over him about it....
It's kinda the way this thread is going. :rolleyes:

[LATB]

And how much would 20 yards of dirt cost ya? Deee-livered and innn-stalled?



200 bux delivered
Clean fill

Spreading-moving-placing,
may cost another couple hundred if you have to pay for man & machine

[Jeff '79]

200 bux delivered
Clean fill

Spreading-moving-placing,
may cost another couple hundred if you have to pay for man & machine

I have enough on property along with 20" x 10' sections of concrete walls that I could bury in there, but I ain't gonna do it.

I'm good for now.
I'll make the determination as to if it's sufficient and go from there.

[86RAG]

I asked early this afternoon. I talked to my buddy at a party after I posted.
:wtf: Really?

What a bunch of politically correct posters we have here.

Kinda like telling Datawiz to have his daughter wear safety things and use jackstands almost ruined that thread.
Like he doesn't already know that, but 10 people had to jump all over him about it....
It's kinda the way this thread is going. :rolleyes:

Aw, don't let 'em get ya down. They're all just jealous they don't have a back yard big enough to go a shootin in! :thehandle:

[LATB]

What a bunch of politically correct posters we have here.



:smash:

[JRD77VET]

I asked early this afternoon. I talked to my buddy at a party after I posted.
:wtf: Really?

What a bunch of politically correct posters we have here.

Kinda like telling Datawiz to have his daughter wear safety things and use jackstands almost ruined that thread.
Like he doesn't already know that, but 10 people had to jump all over him about it....
It's kinda the way this thread is going. :rolleyes:

You asked and got answers that went against what you were planning. Your buddy reinforced your line of thinking so all the answers here seemed like a waste of time.

Use the wood to hold the targets, build a big dirt berm to catch the bullets. Look at your local gunclubs, how are theirs built?

Better to spend money on dirt than dig deep for lawyer or a lawsuit. :yesnod:

[Jeff '79]

2' thick???

This is what it looks like nekkid. As you can tell the rise is quite substantial, but what you can't see is the slight downhill grade to the targets.

http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af113/jeff79/DSC02555_zps4b7ae910.jpg



Better to spend money on dirt than dig deep for lawyer or a lawsuit. :yesnod:

You must have missed this part. The rare flyaway will go into the hill.
I don't need no stinkin' dirt. There's a mountain back there.

[JRD77VET]

You must have missed this part. The rare flyaway will go into the hill.
I don't need no stinkin' dirt. There's a mountain back there.

Quite bluntly, I don't give a flying f*ck . All you need is some small kid trespassing ( lost/run away dog? ) when you're shooting on your own property to ruin your life.

[Jeff '79]

Quite bluntly, I don't give a flying f*ck . All you need is some small kid trespassing ( lost/run away dog? ) when you're shooting on your own property to ruin your life.

I have 4 acres here and there ain't no kids around.
I'll fire a few warning shots first because you really do care... :seasix:

[JRD77VET]

I have 4 acres here and there ain't no kids around.
I'll fire a few warning shots first because you really do care... :seasix:

You have my opinion on how I feel it should be constructed. You decide on how safe you want to build it. :cert:

:seeya: Jeff

[Jeff '79]

You have my opinion on how I feel it should be constructed. You decide on how safe you want to build it. :cert:

:seeya: Jeff

I appreciate it Jeff...:yesnod:

Is there a difference between my layout and the one in this video other than the brush being cleared?

_BOMmIvMRm8

[JRD77VET]

I appreciate it Jeff...:yesnod:

Is there a difference between my layout and the one in this video other than the brush being cleared?

_BOMmIvMRm8

Cleared brush makes a difference ( sight ) but how much land does he have? He is also shooting down into the dirt too.

[Jeff '79]

Cleared brush makes a difference ( sight ) but how much land does he have? He is also shooting down into the dirt too.

I'll be shooting down as well. My pics don't show that but there is a downward grade from my barn all the way down to the stream,(tree line). From the other side of the stream, the hill rises at a steeper pitch after the stream than in that video. It's more like a wall than a slope.
If I'm shooting the .22 to the farthest target, I'm shooting from the barn which is about 5' up, all the way down to it.

[Sea Six]

Jane you Ignorant slut - YouTube

Substitute "Jeff" for "Jane" and "****ing IG'NINT MO-RON" for " well... you know the rest.

[DAB]

you asked for input, i offered my considered input. :shrug:

[Sea Six]

Hey, Jeff!

Why don't you draft a few letters to Charles "Chucky" Schumer regarding how ssss-TTTTOOOOOOO-pid he is regarding gun control legislation?

It would seriously be a better use of your time than building inadequate bullet stop material.

And it just might occupy your time that you could have spent shooting bullets into woefully inadequate backstop material. Which, in your case, would be a "Martha Stewart - style Good Thing."

:thumbs:

[DAB]

legally, i could set up my own range on my property, i have enough space, and some terrain is to my advantage. but it would only be about 25 yd long, so pistol only.

so i spend $132/yr to join the local range where i can shoot all i want out to 300 yards, also have 4 pistol bays, trap and skeet, and 50 foot indoor range. my costs are gas to get back and forth. 1 hour drive. and no chance of shooting something i can't see.

[Sea Six]

Can we change the thread title to "Shooting Range Advice Wanted by a LIBERAL who ALWAYS knows better than you ig'NINT townspeople.

Same-same. :seasix:

[markids77]

I will buy some stock in Weyerhaeuser. You will ruin a sheet (if you shoot worth a damn) every time you go out if you use plywood as a target mount/front wall. Your dirt won't stay in the baseball sized hole 100 or so rounds of 45acp or 44 magnum will slice in the thing, so you'll be wishing for a different design shortly. Have fun.

[MrPeabody]

I would have DJ park his new boat behind the wall. That should stop anything.

[Marc]

You asked, we offered (graciously, I might add), so take what works for you, build it and most importantly, use it in good health. :cert::cert:












but it still won't be right :rofl::leaving:

[Marc]

One final design idea. Given your winter weather conditions I would throw a quick and cheap hip roof on this thing. Keep the wood and media from getting wet and frozen for 3 months. Enjoy :seasix:

[Bill]

No one has mentioned it yet, and I really hate to judge, but it looks like your wood backstop is wavy.

:hide:

[LATB]

No one has mentioned it yet, and I really hate to judge, but it looks like your wood backstop is wavy.

:hide:

Not to mention the code violations :D

[island14]

I think a food bowl for the neighbors Rottweiler would look nice right in front of it. :D